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Not in here it hasn't as far as I can see..
 
Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time.
 
AgentPat said:
Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time.
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Excellent post :up:

I think that The CW will do one more season provided the ratings stay solid, itunes sales remain good, the season 8 dvd sells well & the DVR figures continue to show people are watching the show.

200 episodes would be an incredible milestone, even 100 is a milestone that is tough to reach for most shows.
 
AgentPat said:
Folks, there's a reason the producers of SV went into its 9th season already talking about a 10th: The fourth episode of a potential tenth season would be SV's 200th episode. This is a HUGE milestone for any series as it makes it incredibly valuable in syndication. EVERYBODY stands to make a crap ton of coin from SV should the show make it that far. This includes CW. It trumps any argument that can be made about the show's lower ratings in CW's coveted 18-34W demo, or Miss O's obsession with schedule flow and network branding. SV is not Smackdown! Warner Entertainment had no financial interest in that show beyond ad sales.

Make no mistake, ratings ARE important, particularly those in a network's target demos, but when a show has survived as long as SV, other factors begin to come into play. As SV stands right now, I would imagine it's all about getting to that 200th episode. I think SV would have to consistently fall below the ratings of CW's Friday night comedies last year for it to be axed.

There's also stupid stuff like bragging rights, which studios love to crow about. If SV goes a full 10 seasons it will have produced 218 episodes, which surpasses Stargate SG1's 214, making SV the longest running genre show of ALL time.
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I was pretty disappointed when they changed the slot to Friday expecting the ratings drop (that inevitably came), but I should have been looking at the above.

SV could lose a fair amount of money to produce first run episodes in the next two years and still be considered a financial boon on the back end.

Just think of all the local TV stations around the world that would pay 1 million per year to air SV - given that SV would have nearly enough episodes to air 5 days a week for a full year without needing to air a repeat.

How many? What's a conservative number? 25? 50? 100?
That's a lot of money to be bringing in year after year for a show not costing any more to make.

South Park as an example...that show does not have nearly the number of first run viewers to justify the stupidly huge amount of money they paid Trey Parker and Matt Stone to keep producing the show. But why did they pay it? Because they're at 180+ episodes already and on any given day I can watch that show on 3 different stations in my own TV market.

I'm pretty sure that's why they backed up the proverbial cash truck for Welling. Welling is still not making ANYWHERE near what Trey and Matt got paid to keep South Park going.

And thinking of the above it wouldn't shock me to see them try and keep the show going past 10 years. I think it's safe to assume the only thing that would cause WB to want to have the show stop is Welling not wanting to do it anymore.

At this point Smallville might be worth as much if not more to WB than a Superman movie given how long it's been going.
 
Totally should be interesting to see if 10th season does happen and what they plan for 200th episode. I agree with where superman film series is stuck right now do to all the legal stuff, they should if smallville gets 10th season let it go all out.
 
Final ratings for "Echo", 2.594 million viewers.

Smallville
- 2.594 million viewers
- 1.7/3 HH
- 1.1/4 A18-49
- 1.1/4 A18-34
- 0.8/3 W18-34
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thanks for the finals still good, outbeats premire by just a bit still.
 
Great post AgentPat, and I don't know about the rest of you but as long as Welling is signed for a season 10, Smallville will be getting a season 10.

The 200th episode, wonder what they will do if it ever happened.
 
I guess the over night ratings were an overestimate. Still, it was better than the premiere at least.
 
Prison Mike said:
I guess the over night ratings were an overestimate. Still, it was better than the premiere at least.
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It also makes it the first time the show has been the 3rd best rated show on the network.

So far it's been 4th, 6th, 4th, 3rd in terms where the show stands in relation to the rest of the shows.
 
At first I simply liked idea of a 10th season due to the even number lol, but the possibilities of reaching the 200th ep mark, or surpassing SG1 is too delicious a conquest to avoid. For the 200th ep they have to go all out its flight, tights, both, or bust! I'd be expecting a huge epic episode.
 
oh and totally would be ironic to pass sg1 episode count now we have michael shanks
being carter hall/hawkman.
 
Tomwelling4sups said:
At first I simply liked idea of a 10th season due to the even number lol, but the possibilities of reaching the 200th ep mark, or surpassing SG1 is too delicious a conquest to avoid. For the 200th ep they have to go all out its flight, tights, both, or bust! I'd be expecting a huge epic episode.
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They could always do Lois finds out the secret in Episode 4. Other then Pete, people finding out Clark's secret on this show has been done very underwhelming(usually an afterthought in a season opener/closer)
 
I wouldnt want lois to know clark is the hero before he is even officially superman with the suit and out in the public. But i do wonder what they would have in store for 200th episode.
 
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It also makes it the first time the show has been the 3rd best rated show on the network.

So far it's been 4th, 6th, 4th, 3rd in terms where the show stands in relation to the rest of the shows.
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what are the other two best rated shows on the network?
 
well one is the vampire diaries show, scoring between 3-4 million viewers(urrrggh smallville's old numbers). As for the other i am not sure its either top model on wensdays or possible supernatural.
 
Yeah, um, I love how my posts find their way to other sites almost verbatim. Did you need confirmation or something, "Luke?" Or does it just mean more coming from "Robert & Bill?" :o

Yes, 200 episodes is a bigger milestone for syndication than 100. The show could air five days a week for 40 weeks (over 9 months) and not be repeated once. The only drawback for SV is its slightly serialized nature, hence why procedurals and comedies often do better in syndication.

And no, the potential to break Stargate SG-1's record is not going to influence TPTB to renew SV. It's just something to crow about if it did, because Hollywood loves to brag.
 
Prison Mike said:
what are the other two best rated shows on the network?
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http://www.kryptonsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134073

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Standings for the Week of 9/21-9/25/09

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.797 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 2.822 million
3) Supernatural- 2.661 million
4) Smallville- 2.573 million (Season Premiere)
5) One Tree Hill- 2.293 million
6) 90210- 1.997 million
7) Gossip Girl- 1.966 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.439 million
9) The Beautiful Life: TBL- 1.046 million (Canceled)

Standings for the Week of 9/28-10/2

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.529 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 3.278 million
3) Supernatural- 2.595 million
4) One Tree Hill- 2.511 million
5) Gossip Girl- 2.361 million
6) Smallville- 2.238 million (Pre-empted by an MLB game)
7) 90210- 2.209 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.420 million

Standings for the Week of 10/5-10/9/09

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.522 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 3.156 million
3) Supernatural- 2.467 million
4) Smallville- 2.279 million
5) One Tree Hill- 2.131 million
6) 90210- 2.089 million
7) Gossip Girl- 2.080 million
8) Melrose Place- 1.598 million

Standings for the Week of 10/12-10/16

1) The Vampire Diaries- 3.877 million
2) America's Next Top Model- 2.997 million
3) Smallville- - 2.594 million viewers
4) Supernatural- 2.582 million
5) One Tree Hill- 2.548 million
6) Gossip Girl- 2.358
7) 90210- 2.249
8) Melrose Place- 1.383 million
 
AgentPat said:
Yeah, um, I love how my posts find their way to other sites almost verbatim. Did you need confirmation or something, "Luke?" Or does it just mean more coming from "Robert & Bill?" :o

Yes, 200 episodes is a bigger milestone for syndication than 100. The show could air five days a week for 40 weeks (over 9 months) and not be repeated once. The only drawback for SV is its slightly serialized nature, hence why procedurals and comedies often do better in syndication.

And no, the potential to break Stargate SG-1's record is not going to influence TPTB to renew SV. It's just something to crow about if it did, because Hollywood loves to brag.
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QUE?

I'd like to be in the loop if at all possible. Further explanation might achieve entrance into said loop.
 
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