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LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Fast National ratings for Thursday, Feb. 16, 2006
The Winter Olympics once again faced some healthy competition Thursday, but NBC was able to pull out a ratings win this time.
NBC averaged an 11.7 rating/19 share in primetime to beat out CBS' 10.5/16. ABC was a solid third at 8.9/14. FOX was a took fourth with a 3.4/5, topping The WB, 2.9/4, and UPN, 1.8/3. Among adults 18-49, NBC's 5.9 rating just edged CBS' 5.7 for the top spot. ABC was third at 4.2. The WB grabbed fourth in the demographic with a 2.4, beating FOX's 2.2. UPN trailed with a 1.2.
ABC took honors at 8 p.m. thanks to "Dancing with the Stars," 11.7/17, which beat both CBS' "Survivor," 9.9/15, and NBC's Olympic coverage, 9.6/14. "Smallville" finished fourth for The WB with a 3.4/5. FOX was fifth with the movie "Legally Blonde," ahead of "Everybody Hates Chris" and "Love, Inc." on UPN.
NBC moved into the lead at 9 p.m., as coverage of the Olympic men's figure skating final and other events scored a 12.5/18. A "CSI" rerun on CBS was second at 11.9/17. The final half-hour of "Dancing with the Stars," 13.3/19, and a "Grey's Anatomy" repeat, 6.0/9, put ABC in third. FOX moved up to fourth as "Legally Blonde" averaged 3.7/5 in its second hour. The WB's "Beauty and the Geek" was fifth, beating "Eve" and "Cuts" on UPN.
The Olympics peaked in the 10 p.m. hour with a 13.0/21. CBS got a 9.8/16 from a "Without a Trace" repeat. ABC had the second half of "Grey's Anatomy," 6.3/10, and "Primetime," 4.6/8.
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|100058|1|,00.html
The Winter Olympics once again faced some healthy competition Thursday, but NBC was able to pull out a ratings win this time.
NBC averaged an 11.7 rating/19 share in primetime to beat out CBS' 10.5/16. ABC was a solid third at 8.9/14. FOX was a took fourth with a 3.4/5, topping The WB, 2.9/4, and UPN, 1.8/3. Among adults 18-49, NBC's 5.9 rating just edged CBS' 5.7 for the top spot. ABC was third at 4.2. The WB grabbed fourth in the demographic with a 2.4, beating FOX's 2.2. UPN trailed with a 1.2.
ABC took honors at 8 p.m. thanks to "Dancing with the Stars," 11.7/17, which beat both CBS' "Survivor," 9.9/15, and NBC's Olympic coverage, 9.6/14. "Smallville" finished fourth for The WB with a 3.4/5. FOX was fifth with the movie "Legally Blonde," ahead of "Everybody Hates Chris" and "Love, Inc." on UPN.
NBC moved into the lead at 9 p.m., as coverage of the Olympic men's figure skating final and other events scored a 12.5/18. A "CSI" rerun on CBS was second at 11.9/17. The final half-hour of "Dancing with the Stars," 13.3/19, and a "Grey's Anatomy" repeat, 6.0/9, put ABC in third. FOX moved up to fourth as "Legally Blonde" averaged 3.7/5 in its second hour. The WB's "Beauty and the Geek" was fifth, beating "Eve" and "Cuts" on UPN.
The Olympics peaked in the 10 p.m. hour with a 13.0/21. CBS got a 9.8/16 from a "Without a Trace" repeat. ABC had the second half of "Grey's Anatomy," 6.3/10, and "Primetime," 4.6/8.
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|100058|1|,00.html
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They gotta be happy with 4th. 
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Always amazes me how different agencies report different numbers. Oh well... These are quite nice too. LOL
NBC Records Tough Olympic Victory
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 2/17/2006 12:39:00 PM
NBC won the night in the 18-49 demo with its Olympic coverage with a 5.9/15, according to Nielsen Fast Affiliate overnight numbers. But the amateur athletes were still no match for CBS' Survivor or Dancing With the Stars, with Olympic coverage actually in third place at 8-9 up against that regular programming.
CBS finished a close second at a 5.7/14, thanks to Survivor (6.3/16) and a repeat of CSI, which tied NBC at 9-10 with a 6.3/15.
ABC was a ways back at a 4.2/11, with a repeat of Grey's Anatomy only averaging a 3.5/8 at 9:30-10:30. Dancing with the Stars (a strong 4.9/13) is 90 minutes, necessitating the odd timing of Grey's, followed by a truncated Prime Time, though the it harkens to the network scheduling of yesteryear, when 90-minute shows abounded.
Going down swinging, The (soon-to-be folded) WB (2.4/6) topped Fox for fourth place, powered by Smallville with a 2.7/7. That show will almost certainly migrate to the new CW.
Fox averaged a 2.2/5 with movie Legally Blonde.
Univision was next at a 1.9/5, with UPN cracking a one rating for the first night in a few with a 1.2/3 thanks to a 1.8/5 for Everybody Hates Chris at 8.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6308513.html?display=Breaking+News
By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable, 2/17/2006 12:39:00 PM
NBC won the night in the 18-49 demo with its Olympic coverage with a 5.9/15, according to Nielsen Fast Affiliate overnight numbers. But the amateur athletes were still no match for CBS' Survivor or Dancing With the Stars, with Olympic coverage actually in third place at 8-9 up against that regular programming.
CBS finished a close second at a 5.7/14, thanks to Survivor (6.3/16) and a repeat of CSI, which tied NBC at 9-10 with a 6.3/15.
ABC was a ways back at a 4.2/11, with a repeat of Grey's Anatomy only averaging a 3.5/8 at 9:30-10:30. Dancing with the Stars (a strong 4.9/13) is 90 minutes, necessitating the odd timing of Grey's, followed by a truncated Prime Time, though the it harkens to the network scheduling of yesteryear, when 90-minute shows abounded.
Going down swinging, The (soon-to-be folded) WB (2.4/6) topped Fox for fourth place, powered by Smallville with a 2.7/7. That show will almost certainly migrate to the new CW.
Fox averaged a 2.2/5 with movie Legally Blonde.
Univision was next at a 1.9/5, with UPN cracking a one rating for the first night in a few with a 1.2/3 thanks to a 1.8/5 for Everybody Hates Chris at 8.
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6308513.html?display=Breaking+News
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When is the new CW taking effect?
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AgentPat said:
So it'll be in coincidence with Season 6?
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Not sure if this has been posted yet or not (I'd be wicked surprised if it hasn't?!!), but SV made this week's EW's The Must List. And it's #1!!
A promo photo from Vengeance (pissed-off Clark in growl mode LOL) accompanies the listing.
The Must List
#1 SMALLVILLE
Supe's life was turned upside down in an explosive 100th episode - he's engaged, Mr. Kent dies, he's not engaged - and the WB show soars again.
#1 SMALLVILLE
Supe's life was turned upside down in an explosive 100th episode - he's engaged, Mr. Kent dies, he's not engaged - and the WB show soars again.
A promo photo from Vengeance (pissed-off Clark in growl mode LOL) accompanies the listing.
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AgentPat said:
About bloody time.
And here's the ratings from Ksite
Smallville #4 (3.9/6)
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The New York Times
February 20, 2006
Nielsen Will Start to Measure TV Habits of College Students
By MARIA ASPAN
Nielsen Media Research announced last week that it would include college students living away from home in its television ratings beginning in early 2007, a move that could bolster ratings on networks like Fox, MTV and the WB, which cater to younger viewers.
Currently college students are not included in the Nielsen ratings, which measure viewing habits in sample homes to determine how many people in certain age and demographic groups watch television programs. Networks and advertisers rely on the ratings to sell commercials, and the exclusion of college students who live away from home omits a potentially influential demographic. According to Nielsen, these students watch an average of 24.3 hours of television a week.
The announcement followed a two-year test that was sponsored by several Nielsen subscribers, including Turner Broadcasting, the WB, CBS, MTV, Fox and ESPN. For such networks, the decision was welcome.
"It's very exciting, after all this time," said Garth Ancier, chairman of the WB network, who said that programs like "Smallville" and "Gilmore Girls," which feature teenage and college-age characters, would benefit the most from the change. "In a business like ours, every tenth of a rating point is worth tens of thousands of dollars," he said.
Only students whose families already participate in Nielsen's television surveys will have their viewing habits measured, meaning that the college students will be seen as part of their families rather than as new, independent households. But for the first time, the ratings will reflect viewing habits in dorm rooms, fraternity and sorority houses, and off-campus apartments.
According to Nielson, the inclusion of college students could increase the viewing levels in the 18- to 24-year-old age group by 3 to 12 percent, which could result in ratings increases of 0.2 to 1.0 points for programs. The impact would vary for each network, depending on the ratings they currently receive.
Small networks may perceive that they will benefit the most from the change, said Melva Benoit, a senior vice president at Fox Broadcasting. But Fox, which Ms. Benoit said aims at a younger demographic than the other major networks, is also excited about the new Nielsen system. Fox expects to see the biggest increase in ratings for "The O.C." and baseball games, according to Ms. Benoit.
Two smaller broadcast networks, the WB and UPN, will no longer exist by the time the viewing habits of college students are officially measured. But their offspring, the CW network, which will start up in the fall, expects to carry over the most popular programming and to set its sights for the same young demographic.
David Poltrack, the president of CBS Vision, the research department of CBS, said that the update to the ratings system would be good news for CW. He cited "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" on UPN, both of which may move to the new network, as two shows that had received "appreciable increases" in their ratings during the two-year study.
Certain cable networks also expect to benefit. A group of freshmen (who were not part of the Nielsen pilot project) at American University in Washington, which provides free cable and HBO in its residence halls, said that they watched between 5 and 18 hours of television in one week, the majority of those sports news programs like SportsCenter on ESPN, or baseball and football games. Huw Roberts, 18, said that on a normal day he watched ESPN and ESPN News. "I only watch series if other people are watching them," he said.
According to Artie Bulgrin, the senior vice president for research and sales development for ESPN and ABC Sports, ESPN counts on such viewership patterns from college students. "Our sports news and information programs are viewed disproportionately on college campuses," he said. "It's a critical demographic, incredibly important to advertisers because they are emerging consumers."
College students are only one unmeasured viewer group of many for networks like ESPN, which is often the default channel in restaurants and bars. Nielsen does not currently measure such group viewing, although the recognition of college viewing habits may be a step in that direction.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/20/business/media/20nielsen.html
February 20, 2006
Nielsen Will Start to Measure TV Habits of College Students
By MARIA ASPAN
Nielsen Media Research announced last week that it would include college students living away from home in its television ratings beginning in early 2007, a move that could bolster ratings on networks like Fox, MTV and the WB, which cater to younger viewers.
Currently college students are not included in the Nielsen ratings, which measure viewing habits in sample homes to determine how many people in certain age and demographic groups watch television programs. Networks and advertisers rely on the ratings to sell commercials, and the exclusion of college students who live away from home omits a potentially influential demographic. According to Nielsen, these students watch an average of 24.3 hours of television a week.
The announcement followed a two-year test that was sponsored by several Nielsen subscribers, including Turner Broadcasting, the WB, CBS, MTV, Fox and ESPN. For such networks, the decision was welcome.
"It's very exciting, after all this time," said Garth Ancier, chairman of the WB network, who said that programs like "Smallville" and "Gilmore Girls," which feature teenage and college-age characters, would benefit the most from the change. "In a business like ours, every tenth of a rating point is worth tens of thousands of dollars," he said.
Only students whose families already participate in Nielsen's television surveys will have their viewing habits measured, meaning that the college students will be seen as part of their families rather than as new, independent households. But for the first time, the ratings will reflect viewing habits in dorm rooms, fraternity and sorority houses, and off-campus apartments.
According to Nielson, the inclusion of college students could increase the viewing levels in the 18- to 24-year-old age group by 3 to 12 percent, which could result in ratings increases of 0.2 to 1.0 points for programs. The impact would vary for each network, depending on the ratings they currently receive.
Small networks may perceive that they will benefit the most from the change, said Melva Benoit, a senior vice president at Fox Broadcasting. But Fox, which Ms. Benoit said aims at a younger demographic than the other major networks, is also excited about the new Nielsen system. Fox expects to see the biggest increase in ratings for "The O.C." and baseball games, according to Ms. Benoit.
Two smaller broadcast networks, the WB and UPN, will no longer exist by the time the viewing habits of college students are officially measured. But their offspring, the CW network, which will start up in the fall, expects to carry over the most popular programming and to set its sights for the same young demographic.
David Poltrack, the president of CBS Vision, the research department of CBS, said that the update to the ratings system would be good news for CW. He cited "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" on UPN, both of which may move to the new network, as two shows that had received "appreciable increases" in their ratings during the two-year study.
Certain cable networks also expect to benefit. A group of freshmen (who were not part of the Nielsen pilot project) at American University in Washington, which provides free cable and HBO in its residence halls, said that they watched between 5 and 18 hours of television in one week, the majority of those sports news programs like SportsCenter on ESPN, or baseball and football games. Huw Roberts, 18, said that on a normal day he watched ESPN and ESPN News. "I only watch series if other people are watching them," he said.
According to Artie Bulgrin, the senior vice president for research and sales development for ESPN and ABC Sports, ESPN counts on such viewership patterns from college students. "Our sports news and information programs are viewed disproportionately on college campuses," he said. "It's a critical demographic, incredibly important to advertisers because they are emerging consumers."
College students are only one unmeasured viewer group of many for networks like ESPN, which is often the default channel in restaurants and bars. Nielsen does not currently measure such group viewing, although the recognition of college viewing habits may be a step in that direction.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/20/business/media/20nielsen.html
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Thanks for the article, AgentPat. I did not know that college students were excluded from Neilson ratings. Part of me wonders "what took them so long?"--but the bigger part of me just hopes that more advertising dollars will slip Smallville's way next year.
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No prob, TKodami. BTW, welcome to the Hype!!TKodami said:
And now... more ratings info....
Six Million viewers tuned in to watch Cyborg. Hello? Six Million. Hee! Quite the ironic number, doncha think? LOL
Here are the final numbers, as printed in Variety last Friday, 2/17/06:
Olympics prevail Thursday
Morning Ratings Flash - Rick Kissell
By RICK KISSELL
After getting beaten earlier in the evening by "Survivor" and "Dancing With the Stars," NBC's coverage of the Winter Olympics rallied for a victory in key demos on Thursday, according to preliminary nationals from Nielsen. The Peacock also led in total viewers.
The Torino Games averaged a 5.9 rating/15 share in adults 18-49 and 19.1 million viewers overall during primetime, edging out CBS for the night and contributing to slightly lower scores for firstrun competitors on ABC and CBS. Numbers peaked in the 10 o'clock hour, which included the men's figure skating final, with a 6.8/18 in the demo and 21 million viewers overall.
The Eye won the opening hour in demos with "Survivor: Exile Island" (6.3/16 in 18-49, 17.1 million viewers overall), while ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" (5.3/13 in 18-49, 19.2 million viewers overall for its 90 minutes) led in total viewers. From 9 to 10, a repeat of "CSI" (6.3/15 in 18-49, 20.6 million viewers overall) tied with the Olympics in 18-49.
The WB scored at 8 with one of the higher scores of the season for "Smallville" (2.7/7 in 18-49, 6.0 million viewers overall), lifting the Frog above Fox for the night in 18-49, as the latter settled for a 2.2/5 in the demo with a repeat of "Legally Blonde."
Preliminary 18-49 averages for the night: NBC, 5.9/15; CBS, 5.7/14; ABC, 4.2/11; WB, 2.4/6; Fox, 2.2/5; UPN, 1.2/3.
In total viewers: NBC, 19.1 million; CBS, 16.7 million; ABC, 13.9 million; Fox, 5.1 million; WB, 5.0 million; UPN, 2.8 million.
http://www.variety.com/story.asp?l=story&a=VR1117938448&c=1275
Morning Ratings Flash - Rick Kissell
By RICK KISSELL
After getting beaten earlier in the evening by "Survivor" and "Dancing With the Stars," NBC's coverage of the Winter Olympics rallied for a victory in key demos on Thursday, according to preliminary nationals from Nielsen. The Peacock also led in total viewers.
The Torino Games averaged a 5.9 rating/15 share in adults 18-49 and 19.1 million viewers overall during primetime, edging out CBS for the night and contributing to slightly lower scores for firstrun competitors on ABC and CBS. Numbers peaked in the 10 o'clock hour, which included the men's figure skating final, with a 6.8/18 in the demo and 21 million viewers overall.
The Eye won the opening hour in demos with "Survivor: Exile Island" (6.3/16 in 18-49, 17.1 million viewers overall), while ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" (5.3/13 in 18-49, 19.2 million viewers overall for its 90 minutes) led in total viewers. From 9 to 10, a repeat of "CSI" (6.3/15 in 18-49, 20.6 million viewers overall) tied with the Olympics in 18-49.
The WB scored at 8 with one of the higher scores of the season for "Smallville" (2.7/7 in 18-49, 6.0 million viewers overall), lifting the Frog above Fox for the night in 18-49, as the latter settled for a 2.2/5 in the demo with a repeat of "Legally Blonde."
Preliminary 18-49 averages for the night: NBC, 5.9/15; CBS, 5.7/14; ABC, 4.2/11; WB, 2.4/6; Fox, 2.2/5; UPN, 1.2/3.
In total viewers: NBC, 19.1 million; CBS, 16.7 million; ABC, 13.9 million; Fox, 5.1 million; WB, 5.0 million; UPN, 2.8 million.
http://www.variety.com/story.asp?l=story&a=VR1117938448&c=1275
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speaking of the Frog, i haven't seen that dude in forever.
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Who knows? They'll be selecting the cream of the crop shows from both networks and they also have a few pilots in production. Competition for budget allotment will be fierce since the "cream of the crop" are some heavy hitters (SV and Supernatural alone aren't exactly cheap) and will be spread out over 10 hours of prime time broadcasts per week. I guess it will come down to what they can charge for ad space. Luckily, SV has respectable ratings this year to use as leverage.Lara said:
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Six million viewers, how coincidental is that.
I hope that they get an increased budget for next year as well. I think this year they had to produce on slightly less, which probably accounts for the lack of x-ray and heat vision that we've been seeing from Clark.
I hope that they get an increased budget for next year as well. I think this year they had to produce on slightly less, which probably accounts for the lack of x-ray and heat vision that we've been seeing from Clark.
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Interesting point made on MediaWeek today:
People need to remember this when comparing SV's ratings today with what it did five years ago. A lot has changed in the last five years.
Q: I understand why you compare the ratings of the current Winter Olympics on NBC to previous Winter Olympic telecasts from four and eight years ago. But that is not done with regularly scheduled series -- they are naturally compared on a year-to-year basis. If you looked at other live sporting events like The NBA Finals and The NCAA Finals versus the same time frame, I bet current erosion for The Olympics would not seem as bad. What do you think?
A: While I don't disagree, I am not necessary sure erosion would be in the noticeable double-digit percent range. It certainly isn't for The Super Bowl. But your point is well taken. In today's growing network and technological universe, no show -- not even an event like the Olympics -- should be expected to maintain audience levels from four and eight years ago.
A: While I don't disagree, I am not necessary sure erosion would be in the noticeable double-digit percent range. It certainly isn't for The Super Bowl. But your point is well taken. In today's growing network and technological universe, no show -- not even an event like the Olympics -- should be expected to maintain audience levels from four and eight years ago.
People need to remember this when comparing SV's ratings today with what it did five years ago. A lot has changed in the last five years.
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KikiDee said:
Didnt the actual Pilot rate at about 8.5 million?
I thought the 6,000,000 was fabo too.
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KikiDee said:
You know Kiki, if you were at DTS you would have your knuckles rapped for posting back to back.
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avidreader said:You know Kiki, if you were at DTS you would have your knuckles rapped for posting back to back.
Have you been victimized by DTS? I never post over there so I guess that's a good thing. I never knew nuns were into Smallville.
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