Justice League Ray Fisher - WB Investigation Updates Thread

[Greenlite]

lol is this trending on twitter?

Buffy joins force to call out Buffy creator. Pretty juicy stuff

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Michelle Trachtenberg (Dawn) replying to SMG's post. She was 15 when she was cast on the show FYI.

 

[kguillou]

Yup, not looking good for Mr Whedon.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

If Trachtenberg is saying what I think she's saying then Whedon is 100% done.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Sarah Michelle Geller didn’t really say anything one way or another just that she supports all victims and leave her alone about it.

But yeah, Tratchenberg is implying some terrible things.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Sarah Michelle Geller didn’t really say anything one way or another just that she supports all victims and leave her alone about it.

But yeah, Tratchenberg is implying some terrible things.

Gellar said that she does not want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon. That's not a neutral statement imo.

 

[heatvision38]

Gellar said that she does not want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon. That's not a neutral statement imo.

Exactly. She says she wants to be associated with Buffy Summers but not Joss Whedon. That's a telling statement.

 

[TheFuture]

Michelle Trachtenberg (Dawn) replying to SMG's post. She was 15 when she was cast on the show FYI.

Damn...that isn't good.

Poor Michelle. The fan base wasn't kind to her back in the day so I can't imagine what it was like for a teenager to get that crap, and then to get whatever crap that was happening on set. Awful.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Gellar said that she does not want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon. That's not a neutral statement imo.

Kind of. It implies she doesn't want people to associate him with her. But that doesn't say anything about her experience.

 

[Docker2.0]

Gellar said that she does not want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon. That's not a neutral statement imo.

I think people just really WANT to believe Ray Fisher is wrong. But this just goes to show that there is smoke around Joss. Numerous people have come out to complain about him but yet people are just saying Ray Fisher is an attention seeker. He is the first to really open up the flood gates about this but people just want to victim blame.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

I think people just really WANT to believe Ray Fisher is wrong. But this just goes to show that there is smoke around Joss. Numerous people have come out to complain about him but yet people are just saying Ray Fisher is an attention seeker. He is the first to really open up the flood gates about this but people just want to victim blame.

If Whedon was acting the way he was acting during Buffy/Angel then just imagine how big of a maniac he must have been after directing two 1.5 billion Avengers movies. Dude probably thought he was untouchable when he was doing the JL reshoots.

 

[chintai80]

he prolly drank his own kool-aid after age of ultron

 

[emielaen]

I wonder what will happen now. Joss has already been fired from WB and i don't believe he has anything lined up anywhere. I guess they want to make sure People know the type of person he is and they must be hoping to destroy his career. i could be wrong.

I thought the attention had shifted to Hamada. I don't have a anything in this but it is very interesting to wtch.

The Hamada stuff doesn't seem to hold much weight.

 

[TheVileOne]

What did she do post-Buffy? I can only think of The Grudge and Ringer.

 

[TheVileOne]

There's a month left until the Snyder Cut hits so I wonder what else is going to happen until then. lol

On the same note, as the resident pot stirrer here I should point out that while Carpenter had never gone into such detail about her past experience before, as it was pointed out already, her issues with Whedon's awful treatment of her have been well-known for years. So why come out with this right now? Yesterday Ray tweets about Hamada owing an apology for trying to obstruct the investigation, the following day she posts about her horrible experience with Whedon while making sure to point out that she participated in the investigation. I don't really get that by the way, how can you participate in an investigation about a production you weren't remotely associated with, just because you worked with the one being investigated 15+ years ago. Does that mean the rest of the Buffy/Angel cast or even the Firefly cast participated in the investigation too. There's also the part where she mentions the last straw for her decision to speak out was Ray's firing from The Flash, when he was "fired" because he publicly refused to participate with any DC production associated with Hamada. He was in negotiations to appear in the movie before and even during this whole mess first blew up last summer, so how was he fired when he publicly quit. Or am I missing something here.

According to Carpenter, it was Ray Fisher getting fired from The Flash. Also, she's never really specifically come out and shared her own account of what actually happened. There have only been scattered pieced together versions.

 

[Da-Scribe]

There's a month left until the Snyder Cut hits so I wonder what else is going to happen until then. lol

On the same note, as the resident pot stirrer here I should point out that while Carpenter had never gone into such detail about her past experience before, as it was pointed out already, her issues with Whedon's awful treatment of her have been well-known for years. So why come out with this right now? Yesterday Ray tweets about Hamada owing an apology for trying to obstruct the investigation, the following day she posts about her horrible experience with Whedon while making sure to point out that she participated in the investigation. I don't really get that by the way, how can you participate in an investigation about a production you weren't remotely associated with, just because you worked with the one being investigated 15+ years ago. Does that mean the rest of the Buffy/Angel cast or even the Firefly cast participated in the investigation too. There's also the part where she mentions the last straw for her decision to speak out was Ray's firing from The Flash, when he was "fired" because he publicly refused to participate with any DC production associated with Hamada. He was in negotiations to appear in the movie before and even during this whole mess first blew up last summer, so how was he fired when he publicly quit. Or am I missing something here.

Saying you don’t want to work with someone, even a company lead, isn’t the same as quitting. WB fired him from the project.

 

[emielaen]

Yeah, he was fired. He still wanted the job, but didn’t want Hamada involved, but that just wasn’t gonna happen. So they fired him. Then he “quit”.

 

[Greenlite]

To be honest now might be a good time for the JL cast to come out and back Fisher. He's kinda the star/lead/heart of the story of SC after all

Disney ended up re-hiring Gunn, and now cast/victims from everywhere standing with Fisher against Whedon. What a story that would be PR wise. Snyder saga part II

Plead to AT&T though, Hamada & Emmerich only care about their own careers and current positions, like most suits. They probably think taking back Fisher is like committing a samurai style career suicide

Since CNN was so keen to bash WB's Joker in 2019, I hope they take the same attitude and bash WB on this

 

[Mysteryman]

The Hamada stuff doesn't seem to hold much weight.

Hamada? Certainly not abuse allegations.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Not everybody's career "high point". Except maybe Freddy Prinze Jr. lol

 

[kguillou]

You know—its not likely to happen — but an interesting PR move would be if Feige/ Disney offered Ray a MCU role. As sort of a signal that “y’all over at WB are a mess, we here at Disney do not tolerate toxic workplaces and cherish our talent.” I mean i think realistically Disney would see Fisher as too much of a risk but it’s be an interesting PR move nonetheless to show that their house is much more in order than WB’s and that they welcome someone like Fisher.

 

[emielaen]

Hamada? Certainly not abuse allegations.

Yeah, nothing near this Whedon ****. It'll only continue if Fisher runs with it, but it's already being lost in the news of today and anything else because there doesn't seem to be much there anyway.

 

[Mr. E Nygma]

You know—its not likely to happen — but an interesting PR move would be if Feige/ Disney offered Ray a MCU role. As sort of a signal that “y’all over at WB are a mess, we here at Disney do not tolerate toxic workplaces and cherish our talent.” I mean i think realistically Disney would see Fisher as too much of a risk but it’s be an interesting PR move nonetheless to show that their house is much more in order than WB’s and that they welcome someone like Fisher.

WB already did that by being quick to scoop up James Gunn after it seemed like no one would take him in. Funny, Gunn has said that SS has been the most fun he's had on any film and WB gave him carte blanche.

I know the Gunn fiasco wasn't about workplace toxicity but a lot of massive companies would not want someone representing them using the type of shock humor Gunn did back in the day.

SS will be Gunn's first big project since and I hope the usual trolls don't drudge up all his tweets just to bring the movie down.

 

[emielaen]

Lol Disney is hardly perfect, but interesting? Sure. I don't really get how bringing him there would show that they are "in order" though. Don't they currently have a situation going on with one of their employees on Mandalorian? If that's what you mean by order at least.

 

[Schlosser85]

Lol Disney is hardly perfect, but interesting? Sure. I don't really get how bringing him there would show that they are "in order" though. Don't they currently have a situation going on with one of their employees on Mandalorian? If that's what you mean by order at least.

They just fired Gina Carano from The Mandalorian.