Justice League Ray Fisher - WB Investigation Updates Thread

[Predator jp]

considering the differences between the mental age of men and women 12 years gap sounds about right lol

 

[heatvision38]

Culture also plays a role here.

 

[moviefreak]

Most women at 19 are "mature" than men around the same age. I was an undergraduate at university with the majority of colleagues in their 18-19 years.

At 19 I was already working in account dept and getting harassed by an older woman (around mid 30) from a different dept. An older woman twice my size, and certainly impossible for me to spin around on the dance floor. lmao. Meanwhile, I was seducing an older, tall (about 6' 1"), large black gal in the data processing dept. lol

I was already drinking & smoking by the age of 16, used to go to clubs & parties 'till early hour of the morning. The most prevalent thing? Teenage girls hanging out with some really older men.

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Who cares about the age gap?

Look at Leo. Dude is a few years away from turning 50 and he’s hooking up with girls in their 20s

Big f***ing deal!

 

[Da-Scribe]

If they’re consenting adults then it’s no one else’s business.

 

[Jekecy]

Who cares about the age gap?

Look at Leo. Dude is a few years away from turning 50 and he’s hooking up with girls in their 20s

Big f***ing deal!

I'm so eagerly awaiting for 2022 to see if this graph is still proven right.

 

[batdude]

Lol. He wrote comic books you like so therefore he must be a good guy? There's a whole list of comic book writers, artists and editors who have been accused of sexual assault and harassment.

For example:

Paul Pope
Cameron Stewart
Warren Ellis
Brandon Wright
Jason Lateur
Robbi Rodriguez
Scott Allie
Rick Basaldua
Eric Basaldua
Eddie Berganza
Blake Leibel
Julius Schwartz
Roc Upchurch
Nathan Edmondson
Bob Kelly
Scott Lobdell
Chris Sims
Yale Stewart
Brian Wood

So it's entirely possible that Johns is a toxic person.

A lot more details have come out about those cases. Berganza in particular was a huge slimeball.

 

[Docker2.0]

It's crazy how with all the stuff that has come out recently on Whedon, people still think Fisher is doing this for attention. They believe the allegations of SMG and others but for some reason, Fisher is an attention seeker despite having his Justice League costars back him up. I wonder why........

 

[SupermanFan]

It's crazy how with all the stuff that has come out recently on Whedon, people still think Fisher is doing this for attention. They believe the allegations of SMG and others but for some reason, Fisher is an attention seeker despite having his Justice League costars back him up. I wonder why........

Whedon has never been an issue, most of us know he’s a POS, it’s more his attempts to go after Johns, Berg and then how he suddenly dragged Hamada in. Also Charisma provided a details of which Fisher still hasn’t on Johns & Berg. His beef with Hamada seems to be over an apology.

 

[Greenlite]

Joss is an abuser and the powerful big studio suits that buried the abuse are untouchable

So much for WB & CNN’s image they try to create over the years

 

[Greenlite]

gotta use the universal formula of [(your age + 7) / 2 ] to determine the youngest appropriate age you should be dating.

i think based on that, cavill is ok then .

(30 + 7) / 2 = 18.5

he safe.

its all in the math!

Don’t think it’s applicable and possibly illegal for a 20 year old

 

[Aurakles]

Whedon has never been an issue, most of us know he’s a POS, it’s more his attempts to go after Johns, Berg and then how he suddenly dragged Hamada in. Also Charisma provided a details of which Fisher still hasn’t on Johns & Berg. His beef with Hamada seems to be over an apology.

Just so I get this clear, you don't have a problem believing that Whedon did the things Fisher accused him of, but don't believe that Johns and Berg were aware of it or complicit in in?

 

[SupermanFan]

Just so I get this clear, you don't have a problem believing that Whedon did the things Fisher accused him of, but don't believe that Johns and Berg were aware of it or complicit in in?

No did you not actually bother to read the part where I said he hasn’t provided “details” on the pair? Not heard anything from anyone else about them either unlike Joss who we have heard things about.

 

[Aurakles]

No did you not actually bother to read the part where I said he hasn’t provided “details” on the pair? Not heard anything from anyone else about them either unlike Joss who we have heard things about.

Sorry, maybe I've misunderstood. Setting aside Johns and Berg, do you think Fishers claims about Whedon are true?

 

[chamber-music]

Whedon has never been an issue, most of us know he’s a POS, it’s more his attempts to go after Johns, Berg and then how he suddenly dragged Hamada in. Also Charisma provided a details of which Fisher still hasn’t on Johns & Berg. His beef with Hamada seems to be over an apology.

Fisher's beef with Walter Hamada seems to be that he tried to cover up and bury the problems. Fisher called him an enabler. It is more than Fisher just wanting an apology.

Hollywood is known for covering it's own ass and protecting it's own interests over everything.

People knew of predators like Weinstein's behavior and Singer's erratic behavior. The studio execs and producers covered for them until they no longer could. No doubt the same thing plausibly happened with Joss Whedon at WB.

 

[SupermanFan]

Sorry, maybe I've misunderstood. Setting aside Johns and Berg, do you think Fishers claims about Whedon are true?

I believe Whedon was a prick on set yeah. I’ve said as much before, I think he thinks he was the dogs bollocks. But I also reckon Ray wasn’t exactly willing to just shoot new scenes.

Fisher's beef with Walter Hamada seems to be that he tried to cover up and bury the problems. Fisher called him an enabler. It is more than Fisher just wanting an apology.

Hollywood is known for covering it's own ass and protecting it's own interests over everything.

People knew of predators like Weinstein's behavior and Singer's erratic behavior. The studio execs and producers covered for them until they no longer could. No doubt the same thing plausibly happened with Joss Whedon at WB.

That’s what he keeps demanding from Hamada.

 

[Aurakles]

I believe Whedon was a prick on set yeah. I’ve said as much before, I think he thinks he was the dogs bollocks. But I also reckon Ray wasn’t exactly willing to just shoot new scenes.



That’s what he keeps demanding from Hamada.

Again, just trying to clarify, are you saying you don't think Whedons behaviour was as bad as Fisher is making out?

 

[Kevin_28]

Not sure this was brought up before but Michelle Trachtenberg edited her original IG post to say there was a rule that Whedon was not allowed in the same room with her, alone. So as some may have suspected, it may have very well been a pedo thing. Can't say for sure but that's certainly what it sounds like.

 

[SupermanFan]

Again, just trying to clarify, are you saying you don't think Whedons behaviour was as bad as Fisher is making out?

Not what I’m saying, we’re still waiting to hear exactit what he’s done to Fisher.

 

[Aurakles]

Not what I’m saying, we’re still waiting to hear exactit what he’s done to Fisher.

Do you believe that Joss Whedon was abusive to the cast and crew of JL?

 

[SupermanFan]

Do you believe that Joss Whedon was abusive to the cast and crew of JL?

Am I on trial here or something? Read what I’ve said FFS

 

[Schlosser85]

Do you believe that Joss Whedon was abusive to the cast and crew of JL?

You're the one continuously dragging it back around to Whedon.

 

[Aurakles]

Am I on trial here or something? Read what I’ve said FFS

Sorry, I genuinely didn't understand your position on this and was looking for clarification.
I didn't intend to come across as accusatory and I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable.

I keep bringing it back to Whedon because he's the root of this. If he was abusive, then the next question is who knew and what did they do about it.
That's where Johns and Berg come in.

 

[SupermanFan]

Sorry, I genuinely didn't understand your position on this and was looking for clarification.
I didn't intend to come across as accusatory and I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable.

I keep bringing it back to Whedon because he's the root of this. If he was abusive, then the next question is who knew and what did they do about it.
That's where Johns and Berg come in.

Ive said Whedon is a POS, I’ve always known he was likely an arrogant prick on set.

I still would like to know details of what happened with Johns & Berg. Do I think they likely sided with Whedon? Yeah probably. But I think that was cause they were trying to get a movie made in record time under immense studio pressure & I think Ray was likely resistant to changes. That’s my view on it.

 

[Frodo]

I think regardless of whether fanboys think about Fisher's allegations concerning racism, etc, this Whedon stuff with Buffy does not make him look good.

At this point, the Fisher JL thing is kinda a side story now to a larger Joss Whedon scandal, and depending on what WB Tv execs knew in the 90s and early 00s , they're gonna have some explaining to do as well.