The Rise of Skywalker Reactions to "Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker"

I just have to know what the first meeting was like when this entire thing was started. If I was running the place the first thing I would have said to everyone in the meeting room would have been 'What's the end goal for the story? What's the Republic like after the Empire fell? Who or what is the new threat to the galaxy? What's the hero's journey?'. Then I would have searched for 3 directors to handle each film, locked them collectively in a room together and say to them 'Come out when you're all in agreement about how your films work together', and if they couldn't find common ground keep searching until a trio could be found who could come together with a united plan.
 
It does kind of make me want to see a TV show by JJ and Rian, where they take turns writing episodes, just to see each of them disregarding the other one over and over again.
 
Travesty said:
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lol that is how episodes 1 and 2 made me fell when i first saw them and how i still fell about them.
 
DarthSkywalker said:
I disagree none of this belongs at Kennedy's felt. Why TFA may have been "rushed" it succeeded in almost every way, and that was down to JJ and LF. They had full control over it, and did so with TLJ as well. The issue that came with TLJ entirely belong to Kennedy, the Story Group and Rian. They fell in love with a few specific ideas that kind of messed everything up. And you can tell, because of how viciously a certain group defends those decision all over twitter.
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No, I agree that there is a lot of blame that Kennedy deserves. In particular, why did she approve Rian's messed up Reylo idea. I was just responding to jmc's specific complaint that the lack of planning at the outset falls at her feet. It is clear that Iger was the source of that initial problem. All of the sources suggest that Arndt, JJ, and Kennedy were asking for more time.

As good as TFA was, it would have been better had they not been rushed. You can tell that JJ had to do some serious story surgery during reshoots. A lot of the dots around Max's castle don't connect. Then there is the whole Rey identity issue...
 
You known i am convinced that you can not make star war fans happy and that there is always going to be complaing by fans. What i think would be interesting is out of all the star war movies including the spin offs to see how many of them did people not like at all. The reason i say that is because most people like the OT but a lot of people hated the PT and now it seems like people have turned agest the ST and after TFA but before TLJ i dont think most people would have thought people would be so agest the ST has people loved TFA. Like for me i hated 1 and 2 and solo i just found boring. So out of 10 star war movies going into this one i am 7/10 on at least some what liking them has of course some i like more then others. I am expecting to be 8/11 after this movie. But then if you loved the OT but cared for nothing else you would only be 3/11 not to good.
 
Silver Surfer said:
To be fair to Iger, he's not involved on the creative side at all, and as for the rush to get the movies out, that wouldn't be a problem if Kennedy wasn't constantly firing, and hiring new directors, or had a story group that had planned out the story direction of the movies like Fiege does with the Marvel Parliament.
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TheVileOne said:
Lucasfilm already had a story group set up before these movies started getting made. They also had a script by Michael Arndt for The Force Awakens. Abrams tossed it out and rewrote it himself with Kasdan in six months before shooting started.
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No, Silver Surfer, you really need to read up on the history of the development of these films. Vile is partly right. Arndt had an outline and was working on a script, but couldn't deliver in Iger's timelines, so JJ was forced to take over and start from scratch with Kasdan. Iger prevented the creatives from doing their jobs properly.
 
DKDetective said:
No, I agree that there is a lot of blame that Kennedy deserves. In particular, why did she approve Rian's messed up Reylo idea. I was just responding to jmc's specific complaint that the lack of planning at the outset falls at her feet. It is clear that Iger was the source of that initial problem. All of the sources suggest that Arndt, JJ, and Kennedy were asking for more time.

As good as TFA was, it would have been better had they not been rushed. You can tell that JJ had to do some serious story surgery during reshoots. A lot of the dots around Max's castle don't connect. Then there is the whole Rey identity issue...
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I don't know how much I buy into it that Kennedy couldn't have done more. Being head of the company for what was the biggest franchise in the world at the time should have given her all the clout in the world to push for additional time to get it right if needed. Iger has to take a lot of the blame no doubt, but Kennnedy shouldn't be given a pass either.
 
DKDetective said:
No, Silver Surfer, you really need to read up on the history of the development of these films. Vile is partly right. Arndt had an outline and was working on a script, but couldn't deliver in Iger's timelines, so JJ was forced to take over and start from scratch with Kasdan. Iger prevented the creatives from doing their jobs properly.
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Iger didn't prevent Kennedy from assembling a cohesive story after TFA story was finalized by JJ, Iger wasn't the one who decided to give each director complete autonomy in regards to where to take the story without keeping the bigger picture in mind, and Iger wasn't the one who kept hiring, firing and re-hiring directors over and over again.

Every single studio has to adhere to strict timelines, that's what the business is, Kennedy and her staff have to be better, and they have not been.
 
 
I just got out. I like both TFA and TLJ, though I am not overly enthusiastic about either, but ROS is a mess. This trilogy doesn’t come together cohesively at all because it appears there was no one in charge.
 
weezerspider said:
I just got out. I like both TFA and TLJ, though I am not overly enthusiastic about either, but ROS is a mess. This trilogy doesn’t come together cohesively at all because it appears there was no one in charge.
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No....what ? ROS is more of a mess than TLJ ? wow.
 


I was fortunate to see it yesterday. Some of my thoughts. A lot I loved. A lot I hated. All that said, this trilogy is a mess and is all over the place. Rise of Skywalker pretty much eliminates the need for TLJ.
 
jmc said:
I just have to know what the first meeting was like when this entire thing was started. If I was running the place the first thing I would have said to everyone in the meeting room would have been 'What's the end goal for the story? What's the Republic like after the Empire fell? Who or what is the new threat to the galaxy? What's the hero's journey?'. Then I would have searched for 3 directors to handle each film, locked them collectively in a room together and say to them 'Come out when you're all in agreement about how your films work together', and if they couldn't find common ground keep searching until a trio could be found who could come together with a united plan.
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They had director's locked in when The Force Awakens came out.
 
It's funny to look back on how people were upset when some of us argued that Abrams and Johnson weren't on the same page, and now when the reactions are out it seems like ROS is a big retcon of TLJ.

Unfortunately it seems like it doesn't help much to make either the film or the trilogy interesting. I'll of course judge for myself, but it feels really sad that there's a big risk of that the peak of what the new trilogy could muster was a ripoff of ANH, but worse.
 
Holy crap! It's at a 54% on nearly 50 reviews. Ruh roh
 
spiderman2 said:
You known i am convinced that you can not make star war fans happy and that there is always going to be complaing by fans. .
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I repeat myself. Star Wars fans are individuals. They aren't a large monilith that are always going to agree with everything. This is a silly strawman argument
 
Matt Goldberg of Collider, who I hate, gave this a negative review.

And while he gives most things negative reviews unless it's a movie that he can stroke his own d*** to in order to show how liberal and progressive he is...But when he titles a movie review "THe Rise of Skywalker: What A Piece of Junk"...that's not good

ANd Jeremy Jahns apparently didn't like it. Gonna watch his review now
 
Detective Conan said:
The force was not strong with this movie it seems....
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I will of course judge of this movie for myself, but for those who just assumed JJ would walk in and make this movie that everybody loves, clearly that is not going to happen it appears. But nevertheless, I will let the movie speak for itself
 
Personally I was always going to take less notice than usual of the RT score for this film since TLJ is probably the biggest discrepancy between critics and myself that I can remember.

I never thought there was any coming back after TLJ and it's very uninteresting set up for the finale, but I did hope that I'd get a film I could enjoy more as a stand alone at least. Still I've seen a couple of critics that think the same way about TLJ as I do say that they liked this even less so I don't really feel very sad that I'll have to wait until after Christmas to see it.
 
Mjolnir Reborn said:
Personally I was always going to take less notice than usual of the RT score for this film since TLJ is probably the biggest discrepancy between critics and myself that I can remember.

I never thought there was any coming back after TLJ and it's very uninteresting set up for the finale, but I did hope that I'd get a film I could enjoy more as a stand alone at least. Still I've seen a couple of critics that think the same way about TLJ as I do say that they liked this even less so I don't really feel very sad that I'll have to wait until after Christmas to see it.
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It's quite the **** up achievement if Disney managed to displease TLJ fans and TLJ haters.
 
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