Justice League Real Talk - Where does the DCEU go from here? - Part 1

[harlequinade]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...on-momoas-aquaman-1059626?utm_source=twitter&

Again wasn't the damn bubble just to stop him so they can have a conversation?

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah it sucks but Aquaman has so much pressure on it. So did WW, but at least WW rose to the occasion

 

[Rorschach2012]

I trust Wan

Maybe I'm a fool

 

[Legendver2]

Im not so sure Flashpoint will happen. Flashpoint is kinda like JL 1.5, same way Civil War war kinda Avengers 2.5.
Unless the radically change Flashpoint from the story: you'll need 2 Batmen, you need Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Atlanteans, Amazons, Cyborg...that's a lot of major people and it'll cost major money.
After seeing how their last major film (JL) is doing I have a feeling theyre apprehensive about Flashpoint

They can do a smaller scale Flashpoint without the rest of the heroes but doesn't that kinda defeat the hype for a "FLASHPOINT" movie. And fact of the matter is that they dont need Flashpoint. It's not like the GA will care just make the necessary changes

Flashpoint will be as Flashpoint as Civil War was Civil War. It's not going to be a beat by beat adaption. They'll just take the basic theme of time travel and make something original out of that. Since Gal is reported to be involved, Flashpoint can just be a simple time travel story gone wrong. Flash will find WW in the new present to help him fix the timeline where none of the other heroes existence except WW, since she's a few thousand years old, she won't be affected by a change of 3 or so decades of timeline change. Throw in a Reverse Flash to cause shenanigans, then you'd have a more streamline Flashpoint that's only Flashpoint in name only.

 

[Arachnerd]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. How in the f*** is Aquaman going to be "a mostly dialogue-less" movie?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Get Wilkinson out. The suits looked way too damn homogeneous. Honestly both Batman and Superman's suits looked a little bit goofy, I realize they're superhero suits, but the League kinda looked like action figures. I've never felt like that with the Avengers.

I’m not sure what he did differently with the muscle suits but they really kinda looked like **** in JL.
Especially Superman’s

Spoiler

When he was racing the flash.

 

[harlequinade]

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. How in the f*** is Aquaman going to be "a mostly dialogue-less" movie?

I assume it was a dig at the dialogue being horrible or whatever negative (obviously) opinion they had

 

[FunkMiller]

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Again wasn't the damn bubble just to stop him so they can have a conversation?

To me, it felt like she created it just so they could talk, but I’d have to watch it again to see if your interpretation fits as well.

 

[Legendver2]

I’m not sure what he did differently with the muscle suits but they really kinda looked like **** in JL.
Especially Superman’s

Spoiler

When he was racing the flash.

The MoS suit was perfect. I don't think the BvS and JL suits were meant to be filmed with that much lighting. It really highlighted the fake muscle shading a bit too much. They should go back to the more subtle MoS suit and just make the shade of blue more royal than navy and they'll be gucci.

 

[Micromind]

Flashpoint is the worst idea for a movie ever.. Flashpoint movie will show WW as an antagonist and ruin the character for many people (not just fans) and it shows Aquaman in bad light, to say nothing about horrible death of Shazam and his friends.

Nice way to ruin 3 franchises in One movie, Great.

 

[harlequinade]

To me, it felt like she created it just so they could talk, but I’d have to watch it again to see if your interpretation fits as well.

I believe Wan said they will speak in his movie, no bubbles. To me it looked like Mera trying to stop him he even tries to leave and she goes WAIT and he touches the bubble and can't leave

 

[InCali]

There will be no JL2 at this point in time (I'll say it before someone else does "Thank you Captain Obvious"). Stick to making "good" movies about the individual characters and pay some attention to who they are. Stay away from murderous Batman and moody, cynical Superman. WW is fine. Jason did a better job than I expected as Aquaman (though I'm not overly fond of the characterization). I love Ezra as an actor, but, again, I think they missed on his personality (talking from the comic book fan). The die is cast with the last two, so tweak it, but you can't really change TOO much with regard to their characters. Cyborg is a possibility, but I'd stay away from a standalone at this point. Maybe Aquaman changes that.....I don't know.

Supes and BM are really problematic going forward. Supes probably being more so. Maybe he has an epiphany after the events of JL because he needs a personality transplant. Superman II is the one I most want to see. BM, well, replacing him will make it difficult for people to buy into the new actor, but Marvel pulled it off with Spidey and Hulk so it's not like it can't be done.

It's kind of a cluster frell at this point and WB has really backed themselves into a corner. Hit hard with your 2 best shots (WW and AM) and we'll see how the chips fall.

 

[MadVillainy]

To me, it felt like she created it just so they could talk, but I’d have to watch it again to see if your interpretation fits as well.

Havent seen the movie. So Mera casts an "air bubble" when they want to talk?
Why not have them communicate telepathically underwater and then have Atlantis be like a Gungan city or something

 

[Legendver2]

Flashpoint is the worst idea for a movie ever.. Flashpoint movie will show WW as an antagonist and ruin the character for many people (not just fans) and it shows Aquaman in bad light, to say nothing about horrible death of Shazam and his friends.

Nice way to ruin 3 franchises in One movie, Great.

Again, Flashpoint is probably in name only to hype fans up. It probably won't be anything like comic Flashpoint and it would just be Barry seeking Diana for help to fix the timeline after he messes up.

 

[harlequinade]

Havent seen the movie. So Mera casts an "air bubble" when they want to talk?
Why not have them communicate telepathically underwater and then have Atlantis be like a Gungan city or something

I'm saying she created it to force him to have a conversation with her, looked liked this to me. Or maybe to keep it private. But definitely not just as 'means to be able to speak'

 

[MadVillainy]

Flashpoint is the worst idea for a movie ever.. Flashpoint movie will show WW as an antagonist and ruin the character for many people (not just fans) and it shows Aquaman in bad light, to say nothing about horrible death of Shazam and his friends.

Nice way to ruin 3 franchises in One movie, Great.

They don't HAVE to make Wondy a antagonist, but it does kinda ruin part of the appeal of the story. The whole Atlantis-Themyscara war

 

[Astro13Zombie]

The MoS suit was perfect. I don't think the BvS and JL suits were meant to be filmed with that much lighting. It really highlighted the fake muscle shading a bit too much. They should go back to the more subtle MoS suit and just make the shade of blue more royal than navy and they'll be gucci.

EXACTLY
the MOS suit was seriously perfect.
Much more natural looking.
It just slightly enhanced Cavil’s Physique and he didn’t look like an action figure.

My favorite CBM suit

 

[Micromind]

They don't HAVE to make Wondy a antagonist, but it does kinda ruin part of the appeal of the story. The whole Atlantis-Themyscara war

And why would such a movie be received well, especially since JL is getting trashed ?

A movie based on Flashpoint would be joyless movie with high action and thin characterizations and heavy use of CGI, all of which was an issue for everyone.

 

[MadVillainy]

And why would such a movie be received well, especially since JL is getting trashed ?

A movie based on Flashpoint would be joyless movie with high action and thin characterizations and heavy use of CGI, all of which was an issue for everyone.

Ive said that Flashpoint is not a good idea.

I'm also saying that they dont have to make Wondy an antagonist

 

[Rorschach2012]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...on-momoas-aquaman-1059626?utm_source=twitter&

Again wasn't the damn bubble just to stop him so they can have a conversation?

I mean were you really that blown away by the Atlantis sequence? I was pretty disappointed.

I hope that they don't have to speak in air bubbles the whole time. That's what Justice League suggested though. It was DEAD silent until Mera created that bubble.

 

[Micromind]

Ive said that Flashpoint is not a good idea.

I'm also saying that they dont have to make Wondy a antagonist

Oh, OK.

Still not in favor of FP though.

 

[harlequinade]

I mean were you really that blown away by the Atlantis sequence? I was pretty disappointed.

I hope that they don't have to speak in air bubbles the whole time. That's what Justice League suggested though. It was DEAD silent until Mera created that bubble.

Hell no. It looked better in the trailers, it was horribly desaturated in the movie. But Wan's films looks gorgeous so I'm hopeful it will look great in his film

 

[lukebrodyg]

I’m not sure what he did differently with the muscle suits but they really kinda looked like **** in JL.
Especially Superman’s

Spoiler

When he was racing the flash.

It’s the lighting, not the suit. Joss doesn’t understand this. Snyder does.

Every in-suit Superman scene appears to be a part of Joss’ reshoots and it shows badly.

 

[Maze]

I've got a good feeling about Aquaman. Wann is pretty passionate about it and it sound he has a réal vision

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

The X-Men franchise retconned itself to get rid of X3, They clearly felt the need to do that. Lets not skip over that fact.

They retconned their entire continuity, including the wildly popular X2. That's how far they were willing to go to wipe the slate clean.