Reaper

[Dr. Evil]

Fall Schedule is out:



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i4ac338fdce0587a71c0f60c8af5aed4f

so the CW is adding more shows geared towards women.

 

[Prison Mike]

so the CW is adding more shows geared towards women.

looks like it. they slowly want to kill off any male oriented shows (Smallville and maybe Supernatural is next) and replace it with female themed shows. Looks like they want to tap into the Twilight audience too.

 

[Venom160]

They'll be ****ing ******ed to ax Supernatural. The ***** that runs the network had admitted that it's the most watched show on the entire network.

 

[KALEL114]

Supernatural is /was only suppose to be a 5 year show per Kripke. At least this story line. Now if CW throws a ton of cash to him and his crew that might change. I'm not sure if that will happen in this economical climate the Networks are struggling with though.

As for Reaper, I think Sunday would work well for them. The fanbase would really need to show up for it though.

 

[BlackLantern]

looks like it. they slowly want to kill off any male oriented shows (Smallville and maybe Supernatural is next) and replace it with female themed shows. Looks like they want to tap into the Twilight audience too.

It may look like a silly strategy....but in the long term it could pay off....female viewers are more loyal than male viewers....

and it seems like they are kicking Saturday and Sunday nights back to the local affiliates which is fine by me

 

[Venom160]

female viewers are more loyal than male viewers....

lol tell that to the steadily falling ratings for 90210 and Gossip Girl. I can't wait for those pieces of **** to bomb just to prove that you can't keep a network afloat with the same tired formula.

 

[BlackLantern]

lol tell that to the steadily falling ratings for 90210 and Gossip Girl. I can't wait for those pieces of **** to bomb just to prove that you can't keep a network afloat with the same tired formula.

for CW it's not working right now....but look at some of TV (in general)...Desperate Housewives, Greys Anatomy, HIMYM, Supernatural, all have very strong female viewership....but the CW doesn't seem to know how to do anything right....its like watching a monkey trying to do calculus

 

[hippie_hunter]

for CW it's not working right now....but look at some of TV (in general)...Desperate Housewives, Greys Anatomy, HIMYM, Supernatural, all have very strong female viewership....but the CW doesn't seem to know how to do anything right....its like watching a monkey trying to do calculus

But there's a big difference between what the CW is doing compared to what CBS, ABC, NBC, and FOX are doing. They put out shows that have high female viewerships, they put out shows that have high male viewerships, and shows that are meant to please both gender demographics. Overall, they're networks that appeal to everyone.

The CW on the other hand has turned itself into a network version of Lifetime and Oxygen. Hell the only reason why Supernatural and Smallville haven't been canceled yet is simply because someone would lose their job at the CW for canceling two of their highest rated shows. But take away those two shows, and everything else is catered to nothing but the female demographic. No male isn't going to want to watch the CW.

And what really disturbs me is that CBS and Warner Bros. should know that this direction has essentially single handeldly killed the network. Maybe they're trying to do that on purpose since CBS would probably rather focus on well...CBS and it's been rumored that Time Warner wants NBC.

 

[BlackLantern]

But there's a big difference between what the CW is doing compared to what CBS, ABC, NBC, and FOX are doing. They put out shows that have high female viewerships, they put out shows that have high male viewerships, and shows that are meant to please both gender demographics. Overall, they're networks that appeal to everyone.

The CW on the other hand has turned itself into a network version of Lifetime and Oxygen. Hell the only reason why Supernatural and Smallville haven't been canceled yet is simply because someone would lose their job at the CW for canceling two of their highest rated shows. But take away those two shows, and everything else is catered to nothing but the female demographic. No male isn't going to want to watch the CW.

And what really disturbs me is that CBS and Warner Bros. should know that this direction has essentially single handeldly killed the network. Maybe they're trying to do that on purpose since CBS would probably rather focus on well...CBS and it's been rumored that Time Warner wants NBC.

Ive read some rumors here and there that Universal would unload NBC for the right price

 

[hippie_hunter]

Ive read some rumors here and there that Universal would unload NBC for the right price

From what I read, it's not just NBC that's up for sale when GE puts it up on the block. Universal will be included in it as well, and if Time Warner picks it up, it will be folded.

 

[Prison Mike]

They'll be ****ing ******ed to ax Supernatural. The ***** that runs the network had admitted that it's the most watched show on the entire network.

I thought Smallville has the highest ratings for a scripted show?

 

[BlackLantern]

From what I read, it's not just NBC that's up for sale when GE puts it up on the block. Universal will be included in it as well, and if Time Warner picks it up, it will be folded.

damn....its fire sale time everywhere

 

[hippie_hunter]

damn....its fire sale time everywhere

Yeah. In my opinion, Lion's Gate, MGM, and Universal won't be around for very long and get gobbled up by 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros., and Sony Pictures.

 

[enterthemadness]

Yeah. In my opinion, Lion's Gate, MGM, and Universal won't be around for very long and get gobbled up by 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros., and Sony Pictures.

Holy ****. Universal? That's shocking.

MGM is part of Sony now. Been that way before Casino Royale hit theaters.

Lions Gate has been in trouble since they got big. They are in doubt by 350 million. Only thing keeping them afloat is Tyler Perry and Saw. Them putting a end to making horror films for theater release means they won't be around for longer.

 

[BlackLantern]

I watched a documentary on IFC about PolyGram....interesting stuff

 

[O'Haire]

so the CW is adding more shows geared towards women.

CW is screwed when Supernatural and Smallville end. They will have NOTHING worth watching.

 

[BlackLantern]

CW is screwed when Supernatural and Smallville end. They will have NOTHING worth watching.

unless they have a big hit come along in the next season or two...they are looking at loosing 5-6 million viewers weekly when SN and SV are finished

 

[hippie_hunter]

Holy ****. Universal? That's shocking.

Not really if you think about it. If GE does end up selling NBC Universal to Time Warner, why would they need another studio. They already have Warner Bros. And why would they just simply sell Universal when it does have a very large library (content is something that Time Warner is focusing on now) and some good IPs like Jason Bourne, Jurassic Park, first look at Dark Horse Comics films (like Warner Bros.' 300), the Fast and the Furious, Universal Monsters, Meet the Parents/Fockers, and TV properties like Heroes, 30 Rock, Law & Order, House, etc.

So let's say that Time Warner decides to keep Universal's IPs and library (which would be obvious), and decide to sell Universal Studios. No one is going to want to buy a neutered studio that has no library or IPs. Folding it is the only option, probably in the manner that Warner Bros. is keeping New Line Cinema, or maybe just completely kill it since well...they already have the New Line label for essentially the same types of films that Universal does.

MGM is part of Sony now. Been that way before Casino Royale hit theaters.

Sony only owns 20% of MGM. It's still an independent company that does what it wants. Hence why they have 20th Century Fox distriubting their films. Hence why it would be a major grab for 20th Century Fox (which already distributes their films and have a working relationship with them), Sony (which only needs to buy 80%), and dare I say it Time Warner (which placed a bid on MGM the last time and would probably like MGMs library, James Bond IP, and a first look at the Terminator franchise).

MGM doesn't have a future. It's finances are horrible and it really doesn't make enough movies to have a place in today's modern media industry.

Lions Gate has been in trouble since they got big. They are in doubt by 350 million. Only thing keeping them afloat is Tyler Perry and Saw. Them putting a end to making horror films for theater release means they won't be around for longer.

Lion's Gate is attractive because it has a large film library. It's rumored that investors like Carl Icahn are buying up large shares so they can sell the company to someone like Warner Bros.

 

[enterthemadness]

Not really if you think about it. If GE does end up selling NBC Universal to Time Warner, why would they need another studio. They already have Warner Bros. And why would they just simply sell Universal when it does have a very large library (content is something that Time Warner is focusing on now) and some good IPs like Jason Bourne, Jurassic Park, first look at Dark Horse Comics films (like Warner Bros.' 300), the Fast and the Furious, Universal Monsters, Meet the Parents/Fockers, and TV properties like Heroes, 30 Rock, Law & Order, House, etc.

So let's say that Time Warner decides to keep Universal's IPs and library (which would be obvious), and decide to sell Universal Studios. No one is going to want to buy a neutered studio that has no library or IPs. Folding it is the only option, probably in the manner that Warner Bros. is keeping New Line Cinema, or maybe just completely kill it since well...they already have the New Line label for essentially the same types of films that Universal does.


Sony only owns 20% of MGM. It's still an independent company that does what it wants. Hence why they have 20th Century Fox distriubting their films. Hence why it would be a major grab for 20th Century Fox (which already distributes their films and have a working relationship with them), Sony (which only needs to buy 80%), and dare I say it Time Warner (which placed a bid on MGM the last time and would probably like MGMs library, James Bond IP, and a first look at the Terminator franchise).

MGM doesn't have a future. It's finances are horrible and it really doesn't make enough movies to have a place in today's modern media industry.


Lion's Gate is attractive because it has a large film library. It's rumored that investors like Carl Icahn are buying up large shares so they can sell the company to someone like Warner Bros.

Universal has a better logo than New Line. That's why. Just being honest. Been around longer, too.

Sony only has 20% of MGM? They paid 5 billion for only 20%?

http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/news/fortune500/twx_mgm/index.htm

This link has it at 2.85 billion though in cash.

http://promomagazine.com/news/sony_buys_mgm/

No where does it says 20%.

Lion's Gate didn't earn that library. It got it from Artisan who got it from taking over Carolco. Like a game of hot potato.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Universal has a better logo than New Line. That's why. Just being honest. Been around longer, too.

True, maybe they'll get rid of the New Line label and replace it with Universal. But regardless, if GE ends up selling NBC Universal, I don't see it lasting much longer. Overall, the media industry needs to become less competitive.

Sony only has 20% of MGM? They paid 5 billion for only 20%?

http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/news/fortune500/twx_mgm/index.htm

This link has it at 2.85 billion though in cash.

http://promomagazine.com/news/sony_buys_mgm/

No where does it says 20%.

Sony didn't pay for all of the $5 billion. It was a group consisting of Providence Equity Partners (29%), TPG Capital (21%), Comcast (20%), Sony (20%), DLJ Merchant Banking Partners (7%), and the Quadrangle Group (3%). However, it's expected that Providence and TPG will eventually sell their portions.

Lion's Gate didn't earn that library. It got it from Artisan who got it from taking over Carolco. Like a game of hot potato.

Doesn't matter, Lion's Gate has a very attractive library of over 8,000 films. Someone like Sony Pictures and Warner Bros. is going to want them.

 

[enterthemadness]

True, maybe they'll get rid of the New Line label and replace it with Universal. But regardless, if GE ends up selling NBC Universal, I don't see it lasting much longer. Overall, the media industry needs to become less competitive.


Sony didn't pay for all of the $5 billion. It was a group consisting of Providence Equity Partners (29%), TPG Capital (21%), Comcast (20%), Sony (20%), DLJ Merchant Banking Partners (7%), and the Quadrangle Group (3%). However, it's expected that Providence and TPG will eventually sell their portions.


Doesn't matter, Lion's Gate has a very attractive library of over 8,000 films. Someone like Sony Pictures and Warner Bros. is going to want them.

I like the way the film industry is right now. Yeah, maybe it's too big you could say, but I like having studios to choose from.

I see. They paid their share of it, but it was a 5 billion total sale. Okay.

I rather have WB take over Lionsgate. I dislike FOX and rather have them take over Lionsgate than Sony. I just don't like Sony. Nope, don't care for them. Not saying they make bad films, just my least fav studio.

 

[TwilightPro101]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b125209_cw_upfront_report_lily_dead_what.html

Reaper, Privileged, The Game and Everybody Hates Chris are confirmed dead.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I like the way the film industry is right now. Yeah, maybe it's too big you could say, but I like having studios to choose from.

While it's nice for you and me, the current state of the media industry (not just film, but video games as well) is just too damn big. In order for it to move on into the next era there needs to be fewer studios (Warner Bros., Paramount, 20th Century Fox, and Sony Pictures) and fewer movies.

I see. They paid their share of it, but it was a 5 billion total sale. Okay.

Hence why Sony is a very likely suitor because they only need to buy 80% as opposed to the whole thing. And it would double their film library.

Sony only courted MGM originally because they wanted the studios' guaranteed support for blu-ray. Ironically that would have been a waste of time effort and money because MGMs films would have gone to HD DVD if 20th Century Fox didn't balk at the HD DVD exclusive deal they were about to sign.

I rather have WB take over Lionsgate. I dislike FOX and rather have them take over Lionsgate than Sony. I just don't like Sony. Nope, don't care for them. Not saying they make bad films, just my least fav studio.

You like Fox over Sony? Fox? I mean sure they have nostalgia with Predator and Alien and whatnot but the current 20th Century Fox is just crap on a crap sandwich.

 

[Ghostvirus]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b125209_cw_upfront_report_lily_dead_what.html

Well then. Lets hope Sam frees his soul next week.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The rankings for this season shows poor signs for the CW:

- The CW (2 million, 0.9), whose rankings were not factored into the major-networks comparisons, suffered the harshest percentage drops: 22% in viewers and 18% in the demo. Among its target demographic of women 18-34, though, the CW was unchanged (1.4 rating). The network's standings improve further by taking off the board Sundays, where the CW fell 25% this season after outsourcing its programming.

Compare this to CBS rising 11% in viewers, ABC and NBC (had the Super Bowl this year) falling 3% in viewers, and FOX falling 13% (because of lack of Super Bowl this year) in viewers.