Sequels Reboot after First Class? Should they?

[bhayes]

i just got the opportunity to read the x men 1991 series of comics.

and while i like x men 1-3 and First Class, the filmmakers turned x men into something that is the opposite of what it was intended to be. and that is a fantastic sci fi action adventure. not a movie series that is a social commentary.

after x men first class and wolverine 2 is over.

i think the fact that marvel is starting to take over the comic movie industry with better adaptations (captain america and thor) and the fact that the original trilogy , wolverine and first class are really POOR adaptations.

The Spiderman reboots and Nolan version of Batman are proof that reboots can work.

and since jackman can't play wolverine forever, i think fox should reboot x men after they're done with first class and wolverine.

 

[marvelrobbins]

No.

While I haven't seen Captain America yet I strongly disagree that Thor IS better than X-Men,X2,and First Class.I will take X-Men,X2,and First Class over the SPider-Man Trilogy,Iron Man,Iron Man 2,The Incredible Hulk,and Thor.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I hope the Fox movies do worse and worse at the box office until they give up and let Marvel get the rights back. The Marvel can do a reboot with the original X-men team and sentinels.

 

[marvelrobbins]

That Is never going to happen.A marvel reboot would never have the original team.Marvel Is using more and more the ultimate line over the classic Marvel Universe.All signs point to hawkeye In The Avengers totally Ignoring the 616 version.Shield brings together the Avengers instead of them being Earth's mightest heroes.Ant-Man and Wasp are nowhere to be seen.I wouldn't hold me breath for that Ant-Man film.It was announced at same time as Iron Man and it Is no closer to reality.

Any X-Men reboot would be mixture of characters.Emma Frost might even replace Jean Grey

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I think they'd do a modern version of Stan Lee's original team. Same members.

 

[Lord]

what's the problem with the social comentary, the comics used that too.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

i just got the opportunity to read the x men 1991 series of comics.

and while i like x men 1-3 and First Class, the filmmakers turned x men into something that is the opposite of what it was intended to be. and that is a fantastic sci fi action adventure. not a movie series that is a social commentary.

after x men first class and wolverine 2 is over.

i think the fact that marvel is starting to take over the comic movie industry with better adaptations (captain america and thor) and the fact that the original trilogy , wolverine and first class are really POOR adaptations.

The Spiderman reboots and Nolan version of Batman are proof that reboots can work.

and since jackman can't play wolverine forever, i think fox should reboot x men after they're done with first class and wolverine.

If the X-Men movies were turned into just some sci-fi adventure, they'd be just like any generic superhero. But the movies were given a message, a message that is actually in the comic books, and made them something more meaningful than just a generic sci-fi adventure.

That's nice that you read a comic from 1991. But how about this:

A graphic novel from about 10 years before X-Men #1 that's chalk full of plenty of the "social commentary" stuff.

X-Men is about character, and yes, the "social commentary" stuff, and always has been. The sci-fi adventure stuff is the fun stuff. The day the X-Men movies forget what they are truly about, and become nothing more than a "sci fi adventure" is the day that I check out, because they will be no better than Batman & Robin.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Social commentary is the meat and bones of X-men. Without it, it's just a bunch of freaks hanging out at a mansion with a bald man. Even the cartoons didn't ignore the social issues why would a film.

 

[henzINNIT]

The original X-Men team was boring and the comic only took off when the roster changed. I don't understand why people suddenly need this team, and I surely doubt anyone was asking for it before X-Men came out.

i The Spiderman reboots and Nolan version of Batman are proof that reboots can work.

How has the completely unnecessary Spider-man reboot been proven?

Nolan's Batman franchise is a unique example where the franchise was killed by terrible decisions and dead for nearly 10 years.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Exactly.X-Men became the success they did when characters like WOlverine,Storm,
Colossus,and Nightcrawler were added.Any X-Men reboot IS going to have Wolverine
as major character.

Marvel keeps proving It cares more about the Ultimate line on screen than the classic
Stan Lee jack Kirby stuff.First Class Is closest we will ever get to a Silver Age marvel film.And I don't want an X-Men film where Jean grey Is left out In favor of Emma Frost.

All we have seen of the Amazing Spider-Man Is some photos and a Trailer.We don't know how It will go over.Batman was off the screen for 8 years and the last film was a major disappointment not a box office success like Spider-Man.

For me the Ideal X-Men Is stuff written by Chris Claremont.Especilly his stuff with Dave Cockrum and John Bryne.

 

[BMM]

You just read X-Men (1991), a 30 year offshoot of the original books that was little more than a series of incomplete crossovers, and from that determined that the X-Men were never meant to be a social commentary?

Then, you cite Batman Begins and The Amazing Spider-Man as proof that reboots can work, despite the fact Batman Begins is a back-to-basics ORIGIN story that is about as far away from X-Men (1991) as you can get AND despite the fact The Amazing Spider-Man hasn’t proven anything yet. Really???

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The original X-Men team was boring and the comic only took off when the roster changed. I don't understand why people suddenly need this team, and I surely doubt anyone was asking for it before X-Men came out.



How has the completely unnecessary Spider-man reboot been proven?

Nolan's Batman franchise is a unique example where the franchise was killed by terrible decisions and dead for nearly 10 years.

The other thing unique about Nolan's Batman Begins is that there's a billion different takes on the Batman character. Batman is not just dark and gritty. That is just but one take on the character. Batman is full of cheese, Batman is full of grit, and Batman is everything in between. From comics, graphic novels, TV shows, cartoons, and movies, there have been a thousand different takes on the Batman mythology.

X-Men, on the other hand, it pretty much the same no matter what take. Sure, some details may change. Team members, characters' relationships or even sexual orientation, but the themes of the lore are pretty much the same no matter what. That's why I feel the Batman Begins / The Dark Knight / The Dark Knight Rises line of reboots are an exception to the rule. They are a completely different take on the Batman lore, but while being a complete 180 from what we've seen before, just as legitimate a take.

The Amazing Spiderman looks exactly the same as Raimi's Spiderman. An X-Men reboot would be pretty much the same thing as the Singer / Ratner / Hood / Vaughn line of films, just with some different details. There's no real justification for these reboots to happen, because they are literally just rehashing the same thing we've already seen.

 

[Cherry]

It's clear to me that an X-Men reboot will happen EVENTUALLY. But I think it's still a good ways off, with Fox planning a bit more with the current film series. Whenever the superhero genre does die down, I think X-Men will remain (along with Spidey and Bats) with films coming out every so often. It's the smaller names that will disappear.

So, about a reboot? Yes, definitely. In the next few years? No.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I dunno. We're all fans, so it bumps them up in our minds, but as much as I love X-Men I don't see them as anywhere near the iconic status as characters like Batman, Spiderman, Superman, etc...

 

[marvelrobbins]

I like the Idea of X-Men being longest running Comic Book film series.We could get The Wolverine,X-Men Originseadpool,2 First Class sequels,and X4/X5.

Hollywood Is too obsessed with reboots.Batman Is exception not the rule.I have No Intrest In Man of Steel.After 10 years of Smallville another Superman origin story with apparently will not have Lex Luthor,Perry White,or Jimmy Olsen.Did a reboot do the Hulk any good? Jack ryan was rebooted once already and they apparently will be doing It again.

 

[BMM]

I'm fine with reboots, like any film, so long as they're good. First Class makes an X-Men reboot a bit redundant but not much. After 5 films, we still have yet to see the origin of the X-Men, and, without tapping into the inane, a lot of the universe has yet to be explored. Besides, the movie universe is different enough from the comic book universe that a more faithful adaptation, if they choose to go that route, could very much be a breath of fresh air.

 

[psylockolussus]

No reboot pls!

But the X-Men vol. 2 #1 was really good! t: Maybe in the X-Men 7, they could include all the X-Men that were in X-Men vol. 2 #1 .

 

[psylockolussus]

I like the Idea of X-Men being longest running Comic Book film series.We could get The Wolverine,X-Men Originseadpool,2 First Class sequels,and X4/X5.

Me too and its sooo good when you rewatch it! It never endst:

 

[Jyn]

I don't want to see an X-4. X3 did far too much damage to the source material and the film series. First class was a great movie but was completely non-cannon to the other movies. I say reboot and incoporate plot lines like Genosha, Project Wide Awake, The Astral Plain, The Savage Land, etc. Make it darker, edgier, more sci fi and not ALL about Wolverine (Fox is on Wolverine overkill). Explore Bishop, Cable, Apocalypse, and one of my personal favorites, Mr. Sinister!!! #TEAMREBOOT

Target date, 2014. Give people enough time to recover from the horror of Matthew Vaughn. If they can reboot Spider-Man, which is only 5 years removed from SM3, they can reboot X-Men

 

[BMM]

The horror of Matthew Vaughn? Bishop? Cable? Someone reboot the reboot.

 

[psylockolussus]

Reboot are for cowards.

 

[Jyn]

The horror of Matthew Vaughn? Bishop? Cable? Someone reboot the reboot.

My mistake, I meant the horror of Brett Ratner... Matt Vaughn is A OK

. And what you got against Cable and Bishop? 2 Great characters

 

[Silvermoth]

Oh no! Not social commentry! But we need more comic book films without anything going on between the ears!

That was sarcasm folks.

No reboot.

 

[Lord]

I hope the Fox movies do worse and worse at the box office until they give up and let Marvel get the rights back. The Marvel can do a reboot with the original X-men team and sentinels.

I lost all the respect i had for you

 

[Batman jr.]

No.

X-men 4 by Bryan Singer. In IMAX 2D.

It's already in active pre-production at Fox.