The Amazing Spider-Man Reboot composer?

[Superhero 101]

I really hope that they keep the theme from the first three flicks

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Horner? They got Horner? Oy... he destroyed ST2 and 3's music, imo. And if that f**ker uses the "Here come the Greeks (Troy)/ here comes the sniper (Enemy at the Gates)/ here comes the military guy who killed my brother (Mask of Zorro)/ here come the Unobtainium miners (Avatar)" or the "48 Hrs/ Commando" music tracks again, I'll murder him.

Other than that... best of luck. Certainly could've picked someone better, certainly could've picked someone worse.

"Here Comes the Radioactive Spider"

 

[Spiderman6592]

lol Why would they ever retain the theme from Raimi's films?

 

[Gianakin_]

He didn't destroy the ST2 and 3's music. It's better than a lot of scores today. Especially the ones by the MV/RC guys.

Ignoring Goldsmith's or even the TV series's theme in order to crap out a new one when you're not someone like Michael Giacchino is destroying the soundtrack.

Kidding around or not. You're willing to commit murder if he sounds like any of those scores. Amazing what people will say on the internet and go as far as to make threats b/c a composer you dislike is scoring a movie you're anticipating. It's not the end of the world. You seriously got a problem if you're willing to murder someone. Especially over something as little as this. Face it his ASM score will eventually sound like a previous score of his. It's inevitable. Get over it. And hope for the best.

Grow up. Watch George Carlin. Do something. Anything. And after this post of yours, NEVER dare to accuse Zimmer of self-plagiarism in the Batboards when you accept that Horner will most likely rip off himself in TASM and are willing to get over it so easily, meanwhile giving Zimmer hell for doing the same thing SOMETIMES and not even as blatantly as Horner. As if not every composer doesn't do that in his career at some point(s).

I'll admit I'm not crazy about Horner scoring this but it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Zimmer or any MV/RC composer (excluding Powell) scoring this. Which could've been worse, imo.

How fresh AND non-biased of you. Especially when I didn't mention Zimmer and the MV/RC crew in my original post.

 

[Gianakin_]

"Here Comes the Radioactive Spider"

"OMG, it's the Lizard! Nananana!"

 

[Hypestyle]

Quincy Jones...

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I really hope that they keep the theme from the first three flicks

LOL

How fresh AND non-biased of you. Especially when I didn't mention Zimmer and the MV/RC crew in my original post.

Gotta say it errytime, he does.

 

[flickchick85]

Elfman's theme was perfectly fine for Raimi's film. What's the obsession with having a "memorable" and "hummable" theme? Who cares? Why does it matter? The music should fit the story being told. Truth be told, I'd rather have a very subtle theme rather than the over-the-top epic scores of Superman and Batman, etc...That doesn't seem to be what Webb is going for with this film, so it would be completely unnecessary and out of place.

I'm not a huge fan of Elfman's theme, though I think it's alright (and as you said, fits Raimi's films well), but I gotta say I agree with the general sentiment of this post SO much.

It seems like the consensus in most score threads on these boards is that the quality of a theme is judged by how John Williams-esque, aka "hummable," it is, and I find that whole outlook a bit frustrating sometimes. I tend to prefer music that's not immediately catchy, that you have to listen to multiple times to really appreciate and discover all the little subtleties and gems it has to offer. I find that kind of listening experience more rewarding at the end of the day. Maybe it's the Radiohead fan in me, lol. I just feel like a character's theme should evoke the essence or emotion that character is meant to convey/represent. "Hummability" shouldn't enter into that, imo, which is why I find Zimmer/Howard's simple two-note Batman motif equally as "iconic" as the more hummable Elfman theme. It's dark, powerful, mythic, bursting with repressed emotion...perfect for Batman, imo.

I'd love to have more subtle themes for some of these superheroes. That said, we're definitely not getting that with Horner, lol. But I still think he could do good job.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't even think elfman's score evokes an emotion, it's just so 'blah'.

 

[Oscorp]

I'm not a huge fan of Elfman's theme, though I think it's alright (and as you said, fits Raimi's films well), but I gotta say I agree with the general sentiment of this post SO much.

It seems like the consensus in most score threads on these boards is that the quality of a theme is judged by how John Williams-esque, aka "hummable," it is, and I find that whole outlook a bit frustrating sometimes. I tend to prefer music that's not immediately catchy, that you have to listen to multiple times to really appreciate and discover all the little subtleties and gems it has to offer. I find that kind of listening experience more rewarding at the end of the day. Maybe it's the Radiohead fan in me, lol. I just feel like a character's theme should evoke the essence or emotion that character is meant to convey/represent. "Hummability" shouldn't enter into that, imo, which is why I find Zimmer/Howard's simple two-note Batman motif equally as "iconic" as the more hummable Elfman theme. It's dark, powerful, mythic, bursting with repressed emotion...perfect for Batman, imo.

I'd love to have more subtle themes for some of these superheroes. That said, we're definitely not getting that with Horner, lol. But I still think he could do good job.

Totally agree there!

People will flame me now but I've always found John Williams' scores to be very corny. I've always prefered scores like Zimmer's ones.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Totally agree there!

People will flame me now but I've always found John Williams' scores to be very corny. I've always prefered scores like Zimmer's ones.

Rare, medium, or well done?

 

[Oscorp]

LMAO! xD

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I advice you guys to not underestimate James Horner with this. I myself was very surprised on how different danny elfman's Spider-man theme was from his usual style

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Elfman's theme was perfectly fine for Raimi's film. What's the obsession with having a "memorable" and "hummable" theme? Who cares? Why does it matter? The music should fit the story being told. Truth be told, I'd rather have a very subtle theme rather than the over-the-top epic scores of Superman and Batman, etc...That doesn't seem to be what Webb is going for with this film, so it would be completely unnecessary and out of place.

Well said.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I advice you guys to not underestimate James Horner with this. I myself was very surprised on how different danny elfman's Spider-man theme was from his usual style

I don't know Horner
I feel Elfman's Spidey theme is a remix of Batman's theme, with a more heroic tone rather than the grim dark tone

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I have always thought that this song should be in a Spider-man film, or at least in a trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My_-3MxPcOs&feature=related

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I have always thought that this song should be in a Spider-man film, or at least in a trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My_-3MxPcOs&feature=related

Start sounds like it came from a PS1 Resident Evil game, the rest feels like it was done by Yanni, without the "AAAHHH" part

 

[SnuffTheRooster]

I'm not a huge fan of Elfman's theme, though I think it's alright (and as you said, fits Raimi's films well), but I gotta say I agree with the general sentiment of this post SO much.

It seems like the consensus in most score threads on these boards is that the quality of a theme is judged by how John Williams-esque, aka "hummable," it is, and I find that whole outlook a bit frustrating sometimes. I tend to prefer music that's not immediately catchy, that you have to listen to multiple times to really appreciate and discover all the little subtleties and gems it has to offer. I find that kind of listening experience more rewarding at the end of the day. Maybe it's the Radiohead fan in me, lol. I just feel like a character's theme should evoke the essence or emotion that character is meant to convey/represent. "Hummability" shouldn't enter into that, imo, which is why I find Zimmer/Howard's simple two-note Batman motif equally as "iconic" as the more hummable Elfman theme. It's dark, powerful, mythic, bursting with repressed emotion...perfect for Batman, imo.

I'd love to have more subtle themes for some of these superheroes. That said, we're definitely not getting that with Horner, lol. But I still think he could do good job.

Agreed.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Elfman's theme was perfectly fine for Raimi's film. What's the obsession with having a "memorable" and "hummable" theme? Who cares? Why does it matter? The music should fit the story being told. Truth be told, I'd rather have a very subtle theme rather than the over-the-top epic scores of Superman and Batman, etc...That doesn't seem to be what Webb is going for with this film, so it would be completely unnecessary and out of place.

I think Elfman's theme is memorable and hummable, it's fantastic and I've always loved it.

 

[Elevator Man]

Ignoring Goldsmith's or even the TV series's theme in order to crap out a new one when you're not someone like Michael Giacchino is destroying the soundtrack.

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In the 80s Horner was at the top of his game. His ST scores helped bring him there. Giacchino was still in high school when Horner was scoring his ST films. I know a lot of people at different film score forums who appreciate what Horner came up with for those films. Some even prefer his ST scores over Goldsmith's. I know a few who didn't like Giachinno's ST score. That's fine if you don't like Horner's music. But clearly you hate this man with a passion that you want to kill him if he repeats himself for the ASM score. Really ? Saying comments like Giachinno is the only one who can ignore Goldsmith's or Courage's theme but Horner can't is FREAKIN' laughable. BTW I'm not a Giacchino hater. I enjoy most of his work. I also liked what he came up with for his ST score. I prefer his blockbuster scores over Zimmer's and his MV/RC buddies own blockbuster scores.

Grow up. Watch George Carlin. Do something. Anything.

That's what you need to do or go take an anger management class. Like I said before that's fine you don't like Horner's music and but to murder him if his ASM score sounds like any of his previous scores. That's where you cross the line. That's a crazy thing to say kidding around or not.

And after this post of yours, NEVER dare to accuse Zimmer of self-plagiarism in the Batboards when you accept that Horner will most likely rip off himself in TASM and are willing to get over it so easily, meanwhile giving Zimmer hell for doing the same thing SOMETIMES and not even as blatantly as Horner. As if not every composer doesn't do that in his career at some point(s).

That's not going to happen. At least I don't go around threatening Zimmer's life if his TDKR score sounds like any of his previous scores.

BTW, the reason why I'm like that with Horner. I've accepted that for years that his best days are far behind him. He does manage to put out decent to good scores from time to time. I hope that he comes up with something (at least) good for this.

How fresh AND non-biased of you. Especially when I didn't mention Zimmer and the MV/RC crew in my original post.

Thanks. I'm glad you noticed.

 

[Gianakin_]

In the 80s Horner was at the top of his game. His ST scores helped bring him there. Giacchino was still in high school when Horner was scoring his ST films. I know a lot of people at different film score forums who appreciate what Horner came up with for those films. Some even prefer his ST scores over Goldsmith's. I know a few who didn't like Giachinno's ST score. That's fine if you don't like Horner's music.

That's why they brought back Goldsmith. Because Horner's score worked so well. I don't care how many people you know, history has shown whose theme was the most iconic and classic.

But clearly you hate this man with a passion that you want to kill him if he repeats himself for the ASM score. Really ? Saying comments like Giachinno is the only one who can ignore Goldsmith's or Courage's theme but Horner can't is FREAKIN' laughable. BTW I'm not a Giacchino hater. I enjoy most of his work. I also liked what he came up with for his ST score. I prefer his blockbuster scores over Zimmer's and his MV/RC buddies own blockbuster scores.

That's what you need to do or go take an anger management class. Like I said before that's fine you don't like Horner's music and but to murder him if his ASM score sounds like any of his previous scores. That's where you cross the line. That's a crazy thing to say kidding around or not.

Hahaha, I conclude my original post with "They could've chosen better, but also worse" and CLEARLY I hate Horner with a a passion? How old are you? Serious question. I hope you're not over 12-14.

And Jesus Christ, I never mentioned Zimmer. He was irrelevant to my disliking Horner for TASM.

That's not going to happen. At least I don't go around threatening Zimmer's life if his TDKR score sounds like any of his previous scores.

Oh, so you admit to being a hypocrite. And the difference between us is that I am kidding and there is such a thing as black humor, adopted and made famous by an entire country and used by normal stable people in everyday life. What you do is obsess over a particular musician, even when he's not mentioned in a post. And you are clearly not kidding, you've been obsessing about him since you entered this forum. So, yeah, watch some George Carlin. He will do wonders for you.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

It's true, Elevator Man is obsessed with Zimmer.

 

[Still Wynning]

It's true, Elevator Man is obsessed with Zimmer.

Though, not as much as KAW is with Elfman. t:

 

[Elevator Man]

That's why they brought back Goldsmith. Because Horner's score worked so well.

They brought Goldsmith back for the 5th film. Horner decided not to return for the 4th film (which Leonard Rosenman scored instead). Nimoy wanted Horner since he worked with him on ST3. But like I said Horner chose not to return. At that point in his career he was able to make risky decisions like that. BTW, the reason they picked Horner for ST2 b/c he was cheap. And I might be wrong about this but they also liked his "Battle Beyond the Stars" score. And thought he'd be a perfect fit for ST2. They couldn't afford Goldsmith for ST2. They also wanted to distance themselves from ST:TMP (including Goldsmith's score) almost completely.
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I don't care how many people you know, history has shown whose theme was the most iconic and classic.

I don't give a rat's butt which is more iconic . Horner still wrote two great ST scores, imo. You're in a very small minority who believes Horner "destroyed" his two ST scores.

Hahaha, I conclude my original post with "They could've chosen better, but also worse" and CLEARLY I hate Horner with a a passion?

Yeah "CLEARLY" you do hate Horner if you want to murder him b/c he'll possibly repeat his themes from previous scores for TASM. Don't care if you were kidding or not. Shouldn't make jokes about taking someone's life.

How old are you? Serious question. I hope you're not over 12-14.

Likewise.

And Jesus Christ, I never mentioned Zimmer. He was irrelevant to my disliking Horner for TASM.

Don't care.

Oh, so you admit to being a hypocrite. And the difference between us is that I am kidding and there is such a thing as black humor, adopted and made famous by an entire country and used by normal stable people in everyday life. What you do is obsess over a particular musician, even when he's not mentioned in a post. And you are clearly not kidding, you've been obsessing about him since you entered this forum.

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Feel better now. I bet you've been waiting to say that for a long time. In my defense I'm just tired of the Zimmer/MV/RC sound used for almost every CBM these days. Which is also in pretty much every action score these days as well. Horner being hired was actually a nice change of pace. And wasn't typical casting, imo. Nobody saw that coming. I'll admit I am worried about it sounding like a previous score of Horner's I've heard already.

So, yeah, watch some George Carlin. He will do wonders for you.

Nah. You should take your own advice. You're the one who needs to relax and see a therapist. You're the one threatening to kill someone over something so little. Then call it black humor to back it up. Well forgive me if i don't find your attempt at black humor funny at all.

 

[Gianakin_]

Alrighty. I think my points have been made. See you in your next obsession about Zimmer. Or when you... actually get a grip of reality and how people talk.