Homecoming Robert Downey Jr IS Tony Stark / Iron Man

[Knight_SV]

there could be fallout between tony and peter which tony will force peter to sign the accord that required peter to reveal his identity to the public which he doesn't want and ended with a brawl between Spider-man and Ironman

 

[StormC]

I don't want Spider-Man and Iron Man to fight. Peter and Tony can verbally fight, but them coming to blows would be cliche and just rehashing Civil War.

 

[Oscorp]

I don't want Spider-Man and Iron Man to fight. Peter and Tony can verbally fight, but them coming to blows would be cliche and just rehashing Civil War.

I completely agree! That would be very lame and lazy.

 

[SpideyJJ]

On another note, I've recently seen a bunch of May/Tony shippers popping up recently, it seems to be a pairing that's really picking up steam (I've even seen a couple of fanfictions pop up based on their interactions in Civil War). Just wondering, if it grows in popularity, what do you guys think are the chances that Marvel will go down that road in Homecoming and beyond?

 

[Lilbaz]

On another note, I've recently seen a bunch of May/Tony shippers popping up recently, it seems to be a pairing that's really picking up steam (I've even seen a couple of fanfictions pop up based on their interactions in Civil War). Just wondering, if it grows in popularity, what do you guys think are the chances that Marvel will go down that road in Homecoming and beyond?

Don't think they'll go that route. Part of peter and mays story is their financial troubles. Her dating a billionaire would change it quite a bit.

 

[StormC]

Don't think they'll go that route. Part of peter and mays story is their financial troubles. Her dating a billionaire would change it quite a bit.

They're already going to have to address that issue with Tony mentoring Peter anyway.

I could definitely see Marvel toying with the idea when they realize how much people liked it - I would say they had a more legitimate chemistry in one scene than Steve and Sharon were supposed to have through the multiple times they were together on screen.

 

[harryoscop]

They better come up with a damn good reason.

 

[Loki882]

I don't know if they'll have May and Tony flat-out date (although I could be made to be OK with it if it's done well). But I do expect more flirting/banter between them at the very least.

I mean RDJ and Marisa have proven to have really good chemistry over multiple films together after all.

 

[Best]

Like some have been saying, Tony & May - or rather Tony drooling over May should just be a running gag. It'd be hilarious if she's the first thing he asks about when he sees Pete again.

 

[ernesth100]

I love how people are warming up to the idea of Tony becoming Uncle Tony.

 

[Dark Raven]

They're already going to have to address that issue with Tony mentoring Peter anyway.

I could definitely see Marvel toying with the idea when they realize how much people liked it - I would say they had a more legitimate chemistry in one scene than Steve and Sharon were supposed to have through the multiple times they were together on screen.

That's because they had real life chemistry as they dated ages back. And they've been in several films together, a bit like Evans and ScarJo or Evans and Mackie, or RDJ and Ruffalo.

They better come up with a damn good reason.

You'll eventually say you trust Marvel on that one.

I don't know if they'll have May and Tony flat-out date (although I could be made to be OK with it if it's done well). But I do expect more flirting/banter between them at the very least.

I mean RDJ and Marisa have proven to have really good chemistry over multiple films together after all.

If it proved popular enough, Marvel could do a much smaller movie as a one-off to fit in between their bigger films which wouldn't be an action movie. It could be a romantic comedy in the vein of Only You, featuring the romance between Tony and May. They could call it May to December.

 

[Loki882]

I mean I think that he's already going to kind of be that anyway, even just in spirit. Heck I could see him making a joke to Peter about "just call me Uncle Tony" and Peter finding that awkward.

Also given that this May is so much younger, I don't instantly recoil at the idea of her maybe dating again. I don't really think that it's fair that she spends the next few decades perpetually in mourning for Ben necessarily (plus I doubt that Ben would want that for her either).

Plus if we can get some flashbacks to Uncle Ben interacting with Peter, there could be an interesting compare and contrast between Peter's dynamic with Ben vs. his dynamic with Tony.

 

[SpideyJJ]

It's kinda surprising to see not just casuals, but quite a number of comic heads who seem to be on board with this. Most I know don't like such changes to the mythos

 

[Loki882]

Well as a big comic fan myself, I recognize that film is a different medium. And what works in one doesn't automatically work in the other. And given that the MCU is set up differently already, certain changes WILL happen, it's inevitable. And honestly, I'm fine with that as long as said changes are well-done and interesting in their own right. If I want it to be 100% like the comics (which would be kind of predictably boring imo), I'll just read the comics.

I mean as much as I don't like the USM cartoon overall, it sold me on "younger and more active" Aunt May and her dating/having flirty banter with Agent Coulson at least. So they could maybe do the same with Tony here.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think playing up the romance between the two would fit into a kind of John Hughes comedy type of scenario.

The only question is whether it's too soon for May to start dating someone again, given that it's only been less than a year since Uncle Ben died. Is she in that place yet? Although I guess by the time Homecoming comes out, it will be about 18 months since he passed.

 

[Loki882]

I think that it would depend on A. how they do it (maybe work that idea into the narrative) and B. how big a time-skip is there between CW and this movie.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I hope that RDJ's role in this is more Tony Stark and less Iron Man.

 

[harryoscop]

Well as a big comic fan myself, I recognize that film is a different medium. And what works in one doesn't automatically work in the other. And given that the MCU is set up differently already, certain changes WILL happen, it's inevitable. And honestly, I'm fine with that as long as said changes are well-done and interesting in their own right. If I want it to be 100% like the comics (which would be kind of predictably boring imo), I'll just read the comics.

I mean as much as I don't like the USM cartoon overall, it sold me on "younger and more active" Aunt May and her dating/having flirty banter with Agent Coulson at least. So they could maybe do the same with Tony here.

I don't buy that argument. Spider-Man has proven to work just fine 80%. accurate to the source 14 years ago in 2002. And Tony dating Aunt May isn't interesting, it's annoying & contrived. Just because Marisa and RDJ did movies together in the past doesn't mean they should hook up here. And if he becomes "Uncle Tony", it will be loathed by comic Spidey fans (like myself) no matter how hard they try to make it interesting. Many will feel like Stark is replacing or undermining Uncle Ben (arguable the most important figure in the mythos), plus ot ruins Peter and May's relationship dynamic of them being the only ones left/together in the family after the initial passing of Richard, Mary and Ben. Also brings up the question of why Tony doesn't help Peter & May out considering their financial situation but he can't because it's a defining aspect of Spider-Man story in general that he's a poor kid from Queens. Even the crappy USM cartoon touched upon this, speaking of which takes so many liberities with the source material that it's just laughable. I hope what ever inspiration they take from that show is minimal.

It's kinda surprising to see not just casuals, but quite a number of comic heads who seem to be on board with this. Most I know don't like such changes to the mythos

Trust me, once "Uncle Tony" happens, they won't be.

 

[Lilbaz]

A big part of peters endearment for me was ballancing work, university and being a superhero. Dealing with the death of his uncle and the hardship both emotionally and financially that it put on both him and aunt may. You change that with billionaire uncle tony and you lose part of his everyman appeal.

Not to mention how it makes pepper and tony look.

I doubt either sony or marvel will want it as they don't have control.

 

[Loki882]

I don't buy that argument. Spider-Man has proven to work just fine 80%. accurate to the source 14 years ago in 2002. And Tony dating Aunt May isn't interesting, it's annoying & contrived. Just because Marisa and RDJ did movies together in the past doesn't mean they should hook up here. And if he becomes "Uncle Tony", it will be loathed by comic Spidey fans (like myself) no matter how hard they try to make it interesting. Many will feel like Stark is replacing or undermining Uncle Ben (arguable the most important figure in the mythos), plus ot ruins Peter and May's relationship dynamic of them being the only ones left/together in the family after the initial passing of Richard, Mary and Ben. Also brings up the question of why Tony doesn't help Peter & May out considering their financial situation but he can't because it's a defining aspect of Spider-Man story in general that he's a poor kid from Queens. Even the crappy USM cartoon touched upon this, speaking of which takes so many liberities with the source material that it's just laughable. I hope what ever inspiration they take from that show is minimal.

Trust me, once "Uncle Tony" happens, they won't be.

-That was 2002, this is now. Trying something different isn't a bad thing, especially since this is a new continuity and they've already made changes.

-You cannot know "how contrived" it'd be until you see how it's done, simple as that. Right now, it's knee-jerk fanboy pessimism against anything new.

-You're making assumptions about what "most comic book fans" would accept or not accept. And it's already been pointed out that quite a few of them seeming surprising OK with his idea. And anyway, these movies aren't just meant for them, they're meant for the GA as well, who don't have those pre-conceived biases.

-That's already a problem just by virtue of having Peter and Tony be close at all, this doesn't really change that.

-Peter's "everyman" status has always been iffy to me because, he really isn't.

-Even the comics have had May date before (she was engaged to Doc Ock for goodness sake and she's currently married to JJJ 's dad). And this May is even younger. So this idea that she needs to be forever celibate/single just because some fanboy's cannot accept them trying new stuff no matter what holds little weight for me.

So basically, not at all convincing.

 

[Loki882]

A big part of peters endearment for me was ballancing work, university and being a superhero. Dealing with the death of his uncle and the hardship both emotionally and financially that it put on both him and aunt may. You change that with billionaire uncle tony and you lose part of his everyman appeal.

Not to mention how it makes pepper and tony look.

I doubt either sony or marvel will want it as they don't have control.

Spoiler

The Russo's already separated Tony and Pepper in CW, so that's not really a problem right now. And Peter being involved with Tony at all already raises this issue, and Peter's "everyman" status has always been iffy for me because, he really isn't one.

 

[JOE]

Such a negative thread, I never thought people would be so against the idea of RDJ in a Spider-Man movie. Never, it's kinda sad lol.

 

[SpideyJJ]

Such a negative thread, I never thought people would be so against the idea of RDJ in a Spider-Man movie. Never, it's kinda sad lol.

Yeah me neither. For me personally I couldn't be happier. RDJ and Tom were brilliant together in Civil War, and in any case people who complain about wanting Spider-Man to stand on his own forget that in the comics he's the king of team-ups

 

[SpideyJJ]

-Peter's "everyman" status has always been iffy to me because, he really isn't.

This. Even though I relate to Spider-Man more than any other hero, I've never seen him as an everyman. I mean, this is a guy who has superpowers, a ridiculously high IQ (I remember a comic where Reed himself said Peter had the same IQ he did when he was his age), had a number of gorgeous women lusting after him (Gwen, MJ, Felicia, Carlie Cooper, Carol Danvers, freaking Black Widow etc to name a few), is an Avenger, honorary F4 member etc. Heck even in the current run, they've forgone that 'everyman' tag and had him live up to his potential as an internationally renown scientist and CEO of his own company (a run that I might add is both critically acclaimed and commercially successful).

 

[BatsDC]

Yeah me neither. For me personally I couldn't be happier. RDJ and Tom were brilliant together in Civil War, and in any case people who complain about wanting Spider-Man to stand on his own forget that in the comics he's the king of team-ups

People like to moan.

There is no way they have Peter and Aunt May hook up. I guarantee it won't happen.