Robin or no Robin?

[Rorschach2012]

I think Bruce should adopt Robin early, I always liked the dynamic of Bruce being Dick's surrogate father, that'd be hard to convey if Robin was 18 when he came under Bruce's guidance.

This would've been cool if TDKT wasn't being rebooted...

 

[DrCosmic]

That's a little scary! But at the same time, a bit laughable if this kid is supposed to be a threat to Batman.

I like the idea from earlier where Grayson is passed off as an illegitimate son Damien. That'd be a nice little twist/fusion. Especially if we let more of Grayson's rage out between jokes and such.

 

[NosfeRomas]

Amazing suit !!!

 

[Knightstalker]

Dick Grayson for sure, but if he is to appear in the first film, he shouldn't become Robin till at least the end of the sequel.

 

[Rorschach2012]

It would only take one film to show Dick Grayson's transition into Robin. I want to see Nightwing and Oracle on film down the line. Dick and Batman's falling out and Barbara being paralyzed are some of the heaviest Batman stories.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

I would use the Red Robin Costume for the Reboot but it would be Dick Grayson rather than Jason Todd..

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Dick Grayson was the original Red Robin. But they shouldn't use that suit, it's not very "Robin" it was designed for the fully grown man intended to replace Bruce.

If they are to use one of the Red Robin suits it should be Tim's from the unternet arc, or the rejected New 52 suit.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

Dick Grayson was the original Red Robin. But they shouldn't use that suit, it's not very "Robin" it was designed for the fully grown man intended to replace Bruce.

If they are to use one of the Red Robin suits it should be Tim's from the unternet arc, or the rejected New 52 suit.

They could easily change it for a 15 year old Kid

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Which is why I offered alternative designs.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Do you guys like this suit?

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

Do you guys like this suit?

That's looks like the Batman Earth One Suit..i like

 

[DrCosmic]

There was a poster around here that had some designs I liked quite a bit.

 

[Malcolm Belmont]

There was a poster around here that had some designs I liked quite a bit.

That could be a really interesting design..

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

It's possibly the art style, but I don't like them.

 

[Steamteck]

I way prefer loner Batman. I've been a Batman for for 40 years but never a Robin one.

 

[storyteller]

Batman as a loner is just way too depressing. Having a Robin shows so many sides.

Dick- Legacy
Jason- Failure and Batman gone rogue
Tim- Redemption and Superior
Damien- Life and tragedy

Batmans skills aren't diminished and Robin hasn't been just some goofy kid sidekick since the first reboot. Bruce needs people he can trust. Having Alfred to talk to makes things one sided. There is no one around to show that Batman is insane or the sanest guy in the room.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Anyone who has read and enjoyed Dark Victory for Robin to be included.

You can use Dick's parents dying to tell an accelerated version of Batman's origin. You can compare the deaths of Dick's parents (modern day) and Bruce's (flashbacks)

Honestly with a better script, Batman Forever's plot isn't THAT horrible. I actually enjoyed some of the Robin/Bruce scenes..

I wish this would've been in the movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioQiparmEns

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Batman Forever might be the worst of the Burtmaccher series because it didn't know what to be. Some deleted scenes would have made it good, other would have amped up the homoeroticism of the Bruce/Dick relationship.

 

[shauner111]

I still think Forever is better than the film before it and after it.

I personally don't care if Robin's in the movies because im a more of a loner Batman fan myself. But for the sake of changing things up and separating it from the Nolanverse, I think Dick Grayson's origin in becoming Robin should be an important part of the new series. Just not the first film.

 

[EssayM]

This might sound crazy, but I wouldn't mind Robin showing up right at the very beginning. Fighting alongside Batman, in full costume, no prior explanation (maybe some flashbacks or dialogue references later on, but not a whole movie's worth). I mean, even non-comics fans pretty much know who Robin is and where he came from, and it would be a great hook of an opening to see Batman and Robin infiltrating a bank robbery or a hostage situation, just doing there thing. Now, later in the film you could explain Batman's mission and how he has various operatives working for him, but I think Robin is one of those characters that, if taken seriously and not just made a whiny teenager, audiences could easily accept without a whole movie devoted to him.

In more practical considerations, I'm in favor of the costume Rorschach2012 suggested, and I always seem to imagine Logan Lerman (the kid from Percy Jackson and Meet Bill) playing him.

 

[shauner111]

Fighting? No. This will be a year 2 Batman because he's not officially batman at the time of MOS.

It's way too early for Dick.

 

[EssayM]

I'm confused. Is there any mention of Batman in MoS (honest question, I haven't seen the movie yet)? If not, who's to say what stage of his career he's at when MoS happens? For all we know, Bats could have been at it for years before Superman. Hell, that would be a great source of conflict for WF: "I've been doing this with my bare hands for years and some new guy with alien powers is showing me up?" Moreover, who's to say when in his career he meets Robin? Maybe he met him three years after he started, we don't know.

 

[shauner111]

A Wayne Enterprises logo. David Goyer said no other superheroes exist in suits yet. Superman is the first. He said Bruce is in Gotham helping people (in disguise I assume...heck maybe he's batman in the shadows but apparently hes not) but nobody else is suited up. Diana isn't outside of Themyscira yet so she's not discovered or called "Wonder Woman" by the media.

So that means Batman is about Supermans age. Maybe he's even a couple of years younger. But by the time we see him, he'll be in like year two. Early in his career but past the origin (think Dark Knight era but in a new style).

So Robin is too soon.

 

[EssayM]

I still don't know. Even if MoS is supposed to lead to a Justice League movie (which, come on, how many false starts has that had already? Plus all the mixed reviews it's getting), Goyer and Snyder seem to be saying different things about whether other superheroes exist yet (source: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06...steels-story-causes-the-justice-league-movie/), and a Wayne Enterprises logo doesn't mean anything except that Bruce Wayne exists and inhales oxygen. And again, when has it ever been said when Batman met Robin? For all we know, maybe he did take him on before year two. Remember, we're not dealing with Nolan's Batman anymore; Robin could come in whenever the new director wants him to.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Because I'm not dignifying the Batman & Robin thread with a response given the moron trying to promote himself as Robin: I'd like to say I think Douglas Booth would be a good Dick Grayson.