The Dark Knight Robin Threads Merged (Do NOT Make Anymore)

[Katsuro]

The reason I kinda want him at the end of BB3 is more for story reasons. In Dark Victory, Batman's decision to take on Robin was heavily influenced by what happened to Harvey Dent. He was thinking to himself about how he almost told Harvey who he was, and about his parents and everything. He regrets not telling him, because he thinks maybe if he'd have done that, and strenghtened their friendship, Harvey might not have lost it. (it's been a while since i've read it and my friend has my copy, so i cant go back and double check. but that's how i remember it). But anyways, I kinda think introducing Robin would be easiest if done at the same time as the whole Two-Face story.

Of course, I still think it could be done after quite easily. If they waited until BB4, it would probably still be for the best.

 

[Ox Elf]

I'd rather see Robin happen along the lines of All Star. I think Miller's All-Star Batman is very close to Bale's Batman, and I like the motivation to recruit Robin in that book.

 

[Katsuro]

I'd rather see Robin happen along the lines of All Star. I think Miller's All-Star Batman is very close to Bale's Batman, and I like the motivation to recruit Robin in that book.

I dont like anything about All-Star, especially his motivations for recruiting Robin. I prefer him being very reluctant to the idea of a sidekick at first, not seeking one out. Robin should beg him to join, not the other way around.

 

[Ox Elf]

I think it perfectly captures the obsession of the character. For him its hard to tell where the line is between protecting and winning against criminals. I like that.

 

[Rynan]

I think it perfectly captures the obsession of the character. For him its hard to tell where the line is between protecting and winning against criminals. I like that.

It's also complete and utter garbage. It sucks, pure and simple.

 

[DV8]

Thank you Ronny . . .

 

[Two-Face]

I voted for " BB4 or later "

 

[kytrigger]

YES! I was wondering if you were going to do it Ronny. Hopefully a mod will actually merge the other threads with it.

Also...that is the best "don't hotlink" I have ever seen on Rynan's post

 

[The Kid]

Which is exactly why Batman should stay solitary for at least 3 films before Robin is introduced.


WTF?

like so

this'll be batman training robin

 

[Rynan]

Moved.
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236173

 

[Two-Face]

I'm glad that Robin and Joker threads got merged.

 

[Nightwing 52]

That was a good call. Hopefully now people will see the warnings beside the thread names, and not make duplicates of the same topic.

But I have to say, before all the Robin threads got merged, Ronny made a really good one...

 

[El Payaso]

I don't know but the option BB4 or later for Robin is almost the same as 'let's talk about it in 20 years.'

 

[batmaluco]

I don't know but the option BB4 or later for Robin is almost the same as 'let's talk about it in 20 years.'

Yes, almost that. A polite way of saying that.
Which is exactly why it is the most comfortable option.

 

[Robin91939]

Why start a thread about Robin, only to put a picture of Burt Ward's Robin in it....any character from that show could be shown in bad light if I just posted a picture of them.

If I posted a picture of the Joker from the 60's show, would you guys base your opinion that Joker wouldn't work on film based on that picture? Would you say he'd be too campy, or silly? No, you'd say that that was a BAD interpretation of the character. And that the character deserves another SHOT.

ROBIN deserves that same respect. All the characters from that show, and Batman and Robin were made into bastardizations, Batman included. However, everyone is/was behind a Batman restart. They are behind seeing Freeze, Joker, Penguin, Ivy, Bane, and Riddler redone...even after they were mishandled.

You all can take the blinders off and realize that the characters werent weak it was the direction....yet whenever there is a Robin argument, the 60's show is your first argument. HE can be redone TOO. He has been, in the Animated Series. He held his own show for what? 5 years? He has had his own SERIOUS comic book title for almost 12 years.....he can be done right, more evidence for it, than against it.


MOVIE 3, should feature a young Dick Grayson...the subsequent trillogy should explore Robin.

-R

 

[El Payaso]

Why start a thread about Robin, only to put a picture of Burt Ward's Robin in it....any character from that show could be shown in bad light if I just posted a picture of them.

If I posted a picture of the Joker from the 60's show, would you guys base your opinion that Joker wouldn't work on film based on that picture? Would you say he'd be too campy, or silly? No, you'd say that that was a BAD interpretation of the character. And that the character deserves another SHOT.

ROBIN deserves that same respect.

I don't know if you have noticed (I can't remember every thread when this has happened), but Cesar Romero's Joker pic has been posted several times and bat-fans have shown so much respect for the old man. Not to mention he's my avatar. With Robin though, is another story.

You all can take the blinders off and realize that the characters werent weak it was the direction....yet whenever there is a Robin argument, the 60's show is your first argument. HE can be redone TOO. He has been, in the Animated Series. He held his own show for what? 5 years? He has had his own SERIOUS comic book title for almost 12 years.....he can be done right, more evidence for it, than against it.

Robin has been redone as you say; Schumacher, Animated Series, serious dark comic book etc etc. And I'm sure bat-fans who post here have seen most - if not all - of that.

Even so, most of them say NO to Robin.

 

[Rynan]

I don't know if you have noticed (I can't remember every thread when this has happened), but Cesar Romero's Joker pic has been posted several times and bat-fans have shown so much respect for the old man. Not to mention he's my avatar. With Robin though, is another story.

That thread is now!

 

[Ronny Shade]

I'm glad my poll choices stayed.


Not glad my title is gone

 

[chosen1]

I would say this to make everything fair Robin is a sensitive subject becuase so far batman lives stron g again and no one wants to mess it up now. Robin should not appear until BB4. Simply because we need to focus on batman Now.

However. Heres the part you need to pay close attention to. The Sentiment has always been Bruce RAISED Dick Grayson. In BB2 I would say just so when robin is introduced he does'nt just plop in BB4 like he's being forced on the audience Have Bruce adopt him in the next film. Having Bruce Adopt a 13 year old boy after an accident could very well work to both the robin haters and lovers sides. Now the teenage actor wont have more that to be honest 7 minutes of screen time again I want to focus just on batman. But robin is part of his story. But in BB2 No refrences to Robin at all we just see Bruce adopt a trouble teen in pity. Now in BB3 Dick would be around 16-17 which is when he dawns the costume but he wont in this film. The film would just show how their relationship has transgressed for the past 3 and 1/2 years. He would be in highschool again total screen time would be 10 - 15 mins. Just to show that he's there. At the end of the film have dick grayson stumble on to the cave in a cinematic way w/ a fine tuned melody to make it cool. and some other stuff and leave it at that. I think the big fear is that everyone want's it to be done correctly but to leave out this character that is an impossibility. But people also want it to be dark and in most cases NOT ALL to include this character would be disaster.

In short I believe if it is to be done correctly An adoption has to take place. And to me if they go beyond that it is suicide I agree w/ the people that do not want robin at all. I'm w/ you but to make the story correct and i believe the robin haters want that Just to have an adoption take place w/out any references to robin would solve the issue.

 

[El Payaso]

I don't see any rational judge giving a child in adoption to some womanizer drunk single billionaire who's believed to set his own house afire.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Now with all the Robin threads merged El_Payaso must be happy he does not have to search out each one to bash the character.

Lol.

More comparisons/analogies/reasons of how it was wrong for Bruce to take Dick in I see.

 

[Kritish]

I don't see any rational judge giving a child in adoption to some womanizer drunk single billionaire who's believed to set his own house afire.

Bingo.

 

[Ronny Shade]

A judge won't be involved.

Besides, since when are Gotham Judges rational?

 

[chosen1]

A judge won't be involved.

Besides, since when are Gotham Judges rational?

all good points we need to mesh these good points together and come up w/ something tangible

 

[Ronny Shade]

you need to read Keyser's Robin 101.

I'd find it for you, but that would take, y'know, work