The Dark Knight Rises Robin

[Stupify_me]

Maybe if he just had a better name. I mean honestly, "Robin!" Just not scary. I mean, "Oooh, watch out for, Robin." Might as well call him Keith.

ROFL hoodwinked was so funny

 

[I Am The Knight]

Why?

Here we go.....Kid tagging along. Gritty crimefighter. Does not mesh very well if you ask me. They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

Wayne shouldn't be out endangering children. If they make him some teenager, it just loses a bit of the father/son aspect of it for me. I don't mind seeing Grayson as a kid Wayne picks up to try and redeem himself at some point in his career, but Robin I don't really see working very well. If anything Grayson should be trained to become the next Bats.

 

[Stupify_me]

Why?

Because I don't see Batman as campy but I have always viewed Robin that way. A teenager who becomes a superhero because some rich guys decideds he will take care of him. Or even look at his costume it is so sad and pathetic he has underwere and stalkings he looks very campy and a little ambiguously gay. I have also always thought that Batman was better alone. I do enjoy some of the other charecters that lend a hand but only when they show up on rare occasions and not robin. I like Nightwing (I know he was robin but he isn't now) I like Oracle I like the new batgirl but thats it and I don't want them around that often.

Personally I just want Nolans movies to be Batman/Gordon/Alfred and the villians thats it.

 

[Stupify_me]

Here we go.....Kid tagging along. Gritty crimefighter. Does not mesh very well if you ask me. They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

Wayne shouldn't be out endangering children. If they make him some teenager, it just loses a bit of the father/son aspect of it for me. I don't mind seeing Grayson as a kid Wayne picks up to try and redeem himself at some point in his career, but Robin I don't really see working very well. If anything Grayson should be trained to become the next Bats.

I like this idea alot bit. Maybe at some point in the third movie we can see Bruce take in A very young Dick (That sounds very bad sorry) and take care of him I mean Dick at like the age of 12 or 13but we never see him become Robin we just know it is coming. If they decide to go past three movies the fourth one could just kick up with Nightwing just skip a few years and have him be nightwing. Like the fourth movie is 5 or 6 years later or something.

 

[I Am The Knight]

And what if Nolan & co. rewrote the character so he becomes a more credible character?

OK, how exactly?

 

[Stupify_me]

Well, they managed to rewrite Ra's and Scarecrow's characters so they fit with the movie, it can't be that hard for Robin.

I don't really even understand this. Ra's and Scarecrow were both good to begin with and only need a few details changed. Robing would need to be completely remade to not even be Robin.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well, they managed to rewrite Ra's and Scarecrow's characters so they fit with the movie, it can't be that hard for Robin.

Ra's wasn't really a far cry from the comics, and Scarecrow was what you'd expect (very cool execution) but I just don't see how you get Robin in these movies without some drastic changes. I like Robin, but I don't want to see the character misused or anything. Maybe it's best to just keep him out.........Of the outfit.

 

[Savage]

They would have to redo the suit's colors and make them black most likely unless the kid wants to become a target.

He is a target. He's a distraction. That's also why Batman lets him run his mouth.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Not really. I don't want Robin in TDK or the 3 one but after I can see him working in the franchise without it becoming a joke.

How about instead of a circus, Rich(I call him Rich instead of Dick for obvious reasons) and family are in the theatre performing a show like when Bruce was a kid; Rich's parents could be those people that climb ropes and do gymnastic tricks. Joker or some other villain having a taste for the theatrics comes in with their mob and ends up killing some audience members, actors, and Rich's parents.
Bruce see's Rich sulk over their bodies and takes him under his care. We follow everything like the comics but Batman won't let him be a sidekick because as everyone says, it's endangering a kid. I want Bruce teaching Rich self-defense moves though. I can see Rich as a bit of a rebel where if he feels he can't help Batman fight, he finds out what he thinks can help Batman.

Right, it sounds kinda corny still but it's a way to go around the Robin situation. No suit, just Robin being an angry and confused kid, much Wayne was. He could get training to ''vent'' a little and focus his rage on something. But it depends on if you want to make him a kid or a teenager. I'd go with the kid angle. But no kid crimefighting, and no tights!

 

[Stupify_me]

Not really. I don't want Robin in TDK or the 3 one but after I can see him working in the franchise without it becoming a joke.

How about instead of a circus, Rich(I call him Rich instead of Dick for obvious reasons) and family are in the theatre performing a show like when Bruce was a kid; Rich's parents could be those people that climb ropes and do gymnastic tricks. Joker or some other villain having a taste for the theatrics comes in with their mob and ends up killing some audience members, actors, and Rich's parents.
Bruce see's Rich sulk over their bodies and takes him under his care. We follow everything like the comics but Batman won't let him be a sidekick because as everyone says, it's endangering a kid. I want Bruce teaching Rich self-defense moves though. I can see Rich as a bit of a rebel where if he feels he can't help Batman fight, he finds out what he thinks can help Batman.

So similar to Batman Forever but more serious and more time invested in the introduction not just.

My parents are dead.
This rich dude is taking me in
hey he's Batman ill steal his car
Im going to be his sidekick hi im robin Alfred made this suit for me


I always laugh at how fast every thing goes and how out of no where Dick Grayson is this great fighter and has it in him to be a hero and Alfred just say ok you can be Robin no matter what Master Bruce says. I thought Forever was a decent movie but it was still kind of a joke.

I don't mind Dick Grayson being in the movie I just don't want Robin.

 

[Savage]

Robin doesn't have to literally fight crime. He's a helper. He's a scout. He helps. What he DOESN'T do is come swooping down and clobbering anyone in sight. That's not how I'd like to see him portrayed anyway. I mean maybe in the whole movie he should get like one fight scene and it would be against one guy as opposed to an entire group. Maybe someone catches him on the roof scoping the place out and feeding Batman info on what's around each corner.

 

[Stupify_me]

Robin doesn't have to literally fight crime. He's a helper. He's a scout. He helps. What he DOESN'T do is come swooping down and clobbering anyone in sight. That's not how I'd like to see him portrayed anyway. I mean maybe in the whole movie he should get like one fight scene and it would be against one guy as opposed to an entire group. Maybe someone catches him on the roof scoping the place out and feeding Batman info on what's around each corner.

See to me even that just sounds bad. I don't want Robin in it at all I wouldn't mind if in the last movie there was a Dick Grayson hinting at a Robin but never actually getting him that would be fine by me. I just don't like Robin the suit is horrible the whole concept of a child helping Batman is just ridiculous. Even if the concept wasn't just very campy and lame the there has never been a good robin visual that I have ever seen they all look very campy and lame.

 

[Savage]

Well hey, opinions. I happen to like the Robins. Always did. Even think the costume looks pretty cool (not the fairy one. The one with pants. That's what I grew up on. The Animated Series). Just going to have to agree to dissagree on this one because it seems that nobody's minds will be changed on account on previous biases.

I like Robin and consider him even more important than Jim Gordon but just as much as Alfred. Hey, that's just me though. I'd like to see him and Catwoman make it in there somehow. Make Batman's world to florish so it's not just him and *insert villain here* over and over.

 

[Stupify_me]

Well hey, opinions. I happen to like the Robins. Always did. Even think the costume looks pretty cool (not the fairy one. The one with pants. That's what I grew up on. The Animated Series). Just going to have to agree to dissagree on this one because it seems that nobody's minds will be changed on account on previous biases.

I like Robin and consider him even more important than Jim Gordon but just as much as Alfred. Hey, that's just me though. I'd like to see him and Catwoman make it in there somehow. Make Batman's world to florish so it's not just him and *insert villain here* over and over.

To be fair it is more then Batman and insert Villian there is Gordon and Alfred and as much as I hate to see it there is Racheal (yuck) Catwoman would really be a bad idea since she just recently had a movie out that bombed

 

[Stupify_me]

If Nolan can bring Batman back after Schumacher's movies, he can bring back Catwoman after Berry's movie. It wasn't as recent as some of you think.

Batman was in 98 the Catwoman movie was 2004 and it bombed far worse than Batman and Robin

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

Again, this is just me, but I HATE the idea of just bringing in Dick Grayson and leaving Jason Todd and Tim Drake completely out of the universe. I think that's a much greater misuse of Robin than leaving him out completely.

 

[Stupify_me]

Again, this is just me, but I HATE the idea of just bringing in Dick Grayson and leaving Jason Todd and Tim Drake completely out of the universe. I think that's a much greater misuse of Robin than leaving him out completely.

I agree Jason shapped The batman that we have had for the last 10 years with his death, and Tim has shaped the slightly kinder Bruce that we have today. Though I prefer him as a complete ass and a loner but I think if we had to bring in Dick then we have to get Jason and Tim in there as well but we can only do so much I doubt you can get the actors to stay for to many movies and the Franchise just can't stay around that long.

 

[Savage]

To be fair it is more then Batman and insert Villian there is Gordon and Alfred and as much as I hate to see it there is Racheal (yuck) Catwoman would really be a bad idea since she just recently had a movie out that bombed

Nah. I'm sure audiences can tell the difference between a white woman and a black woman. lol It would be a Batman movie that features Catwoman in it. People would like the idea because they know she works well with the Batman character and works like crap on her own (well WB's attempt anyway).

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.

The way I see it, every Batman needs a Robin. Yes there are the loner years but eventually it becomes this.(sans Superman obviously)

Since the movies aren't going to last long enough for this to become a reality, the beginning of this would be nice. They call it The Bat-Family for a reason and that is Batman unknowingly recreates the family he had. That is what is so significant about the characters of Robin and Catwoman.

 

[7Hells]

The only way I'd want Robin to be in the movie is if he shows up just to give Wayne some closure in the third. Filling all that paternal need and renewed hope through youth for the future. I dont really care to see him do anything but play into an emotional support theme at the end.

Also by introducing Robin at the end, kind of like the Joker was introduced in BB, it would deter any other directors from making a direct sequel to Nolans work. I'd rather the future Batman directors be as brave as Nolan and interpret Batman with originality.

As long as Nolan is truly only doing 3...

 

[Stupify_me]

Nah. I'm sure audiences can tell the difference between a white woman and a black woman. lol It would be a Batman movie that features Catwoman in it. People would like the idea because they know she works well with the Batman character and works like crap on her own (well WB's attempt anyway).

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.

The way I see it, every Batman needs a Robin. Yes there are the loner years but eventually it becomes this.(sans Superman obviously)

Since the movies aren't going to last long enough for this to become a reality, the beginning of this would be nice. They call it The Bat-Family for a reason and that is Batman unknowingly recreates the family he had. That is what is so significant about the characters of Robin and Catwoman.

Meh I prefer Loner Batman. Hell the best Batman stories are when he is doing things alone and the Bat familey is in the background doing their own thing.

It's not that I think they can't tell the differance it's that they have a bad taste in their mouth from Catwoman.

Personally Catwoman is one of my least favirote people I only like here when she is not a bad guy and she is makin it with Batman other then that she is a horrible Villian IMO

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

And I know people like the Robins and all but all you need is one and he'll most likely end up being an algamation of them anyway. We'd most likely get Dick Grayson with Tim's costumes and Brains, etc etc. Not like the series would last long enough for us to see Nightwing and Robin standing side by side anyway.

No, you don't just need one. It's all or nothing. No Robin, no Dick Grayson. Not now, not ever. Only time will tell if Nolan agrees with me or not, but if I remember correctly, didn't he say in an interview Robin would probably never be included as long as he's in control of the project?

 

[Stupify_me]

No, you don't just need one. It's all or nothing. No Robin, no Dick Grayson. Not now, not ever. Only time will tell if Nolan agrees with me or not, but if I remember correctly, didn't he say in an interview Robin would probably never be included as long as he's in control of the project?

Let us hope

 

[Gotendbz-2]

For all you guys that think Robin cant done well, you must not think Christopher Nolan is a good director, because if you did, you want Robin in these movies. And just because he said he wont use him doesn he wont, look at Sam Raimi, he said he would never use Venom in a Spider-Man movie, and whadda ya' know? Things change, and changing your mind takes a matter of seconds. And as for the costume, go to the "Who should be Robin" thread in the sequels forum and go to page 4, then scroll down until you see drawings of an awesome suit. Thats how I want Robin. And also, the kid Batman gave the night vision goggles to should turn out to be Dick Grayson, because Robin does have night vision goggles. Annd you all say its unrealistic for someone take a kid out crime fighting, well have you ever seen a guy in a bat costume fight crime? And he wouldnt be a little kid, he would be 13-16 years old. There are a lot of acrobats that know martial arts that are that age who could kick your butts.


Have a nice day

 

[Stupify_me]

For all you guys that think Robin cant done well, you must not think Christopher Nolan is a good director, because if you did, you want Robin in these movies. And just because he said he wont use him doesn he wont, look at Sam Raimi, he said he would never use Venom in a Spider-Man movie, and whadda ya' know? Things change, and changing your mind takes a matter of seconds. And as for the costume, go to the "Who should be Robin" thread in the sequels forum and go to page 4, then scroll down until you see drawings of an awesome suit. Thats how I want Robin. And also, the kid Batman gave the night vision goggles to should turn out to be Dick Grayson, because Robin does have night vision goggles. Annd you all say its unrealistic for someone take a kid out crime fighting, well have you ever seen a guy in a bat costume fight crime? And he wouldnt be a little kid, he would be 13-16 years old. There are a lot of acrobats that know martial arts that are that age who could kick your butts.


Have a nice day

I have plenty of faith in Nolan but that does not mean I expect him to do the impossible he can't bring in Robin with out hurting the Franchise greatly Robin translates horrible in to movies and even worse in the Nolan universe. Hell he doesn't even go in to comics all that great IMO I never liked Robin and would be happy to never see him again.

 

[CristiMAN]

Never!!!! Drop it. Robin doesnt fit in this restart of the series. I cant understand why people even insist in this. Robin is a mistake that has over 50 years. Hoe many times did the character get killed (present and future)? I see this character the same way I see Batgirl, Batwoman, Batdog or any of those derivations of the myth. If they exist, kill them. If they dont exist, keep them out! Whats next? People asking Singer for Krypto in the sequel?