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Rogue taking the cure - wrong message entirely

kainedamo

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Rogue taking the cure sends a terrible message to children. She should have appeared at the end and explained why she DIDN'T take the cure.

The cure is like asking yourself "if I were black, and there was a "cure" for it, would I take it"? And the answer is "sure, sometimes being black is hard, but I am proud of who I am and I shouldn't have to change".

Rattner and whoever the hell wrote the script didn't understand the X-Men's message of understanding and tolerance.
 
id cure myself if i had rogues mutant power lol and i think majority here would as well.. that is unless you enjoy killing people and having them float around in your head
 
Uh, why do you think Angel didn't take the cure, kainedamo? Do you know what the significance was behind the flashback when he was a kid?

-TNC
 
Yes it was wrong of her to take it and it does give a wrong message, i like the response she gave in the previews that was cut out. "This is me Bobby," now that is the Rogue i know.
 
they really should of gone with that other ending....i cant stress that enough.
they should of been testing the movie with it, i think all the marks would have led in favor of the other one. considering its the xmen who are taking a stand.
there was just no excuse for it. then again its realistic in the sense, of my personal history, women always seem to make the bad choice. ive read the regret letters later, and im always there to say i told you so.
 
plus with her taking the cure, and well obviously we see the cure isnt lasting.. this leads to rogue perminantly absorbing a power if her power kicks back on when shes touching someone
 
I think it's cool that they showed both sides of the mutants - the ones who are totally against the cure and proud about themselves (Storm) and the ones who just can't accept their mutation and take the cure (Rogue). Just makes it more real because i think there would be minorities who would take the cure if there would be one.
 
I think that Rouge made a mistake too, but I can understand why she would want to. I think you missed the message kainedamo, it was about choice. Rouge made the choice of what direction her life would take her. The cure wasn't a bad thing really, it was weaponizing it that was wrong. At that point it is like sending someone off to a camp to get fixed because they are gay. I think it sends a perfectly acceptable message, as Wolverine pointed out to her, no one should stop you from doing what you believe is right.

Your own logic has a flaw, for instance biologically we were made to breed, in order to breed we must have a male female relationship. According to nature we should all be strait, but some people choose to be gay instead. Isn't it right then that they can choose that over what they were made to do? Rouge in the movie series wants to be human, shouldn't she have the choice if she wants to? I think they understood tolerance perfectly in the movie, they just looked at it from multiple sides.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being mean, I'm not, it just seems like there is a lot of nippicking going on here and its getting to me, I for one loved the movie, not as good as X-2, but thats one of the best action movies out there so o well.
 
Keymaker said:
I think it's cool that they showed both sides of the mutants - the ones who are totally against the cure and proud about themselves (Storm) and the ones who just can't accept their mutation and take the cure (Rogue). Just makes it more real because i think there would be minorities who would take the cure if there would be one.

Thats the way I look at it, what's wrong with showing something that would realistically happen? Not everyone is going to make the morally right decision of just loving who you are, there will always be others who wont see it in that light. Besides, hasn't Rogue sought out a cure before? I know she did it in the cartoon and I'm pretty sure it happened in the comics. So it kind of fits into her character.
 
Im glad she did. If you could never touch another person you would take it too.
 
The X-Men FORCED the cure onto Magneto...

I see nothing wrong with one of them CHOOSING to take it.

Rogue did what that character felt was right for her...the character isnt aware that you sitting in the theater need a message with a bow on top.
 
I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE TRAILER FOR X4


It starts off with Rogue and Bobby in the mansion's garden. They exchange lovely words then they go in for a kiss. While the are kissing Rogue starts to absorb bobby's life force with out realizing it. Bobby passes out and starts to have a convulsions. Rogue screams (just like X1). Then they show alot of scenes, music goes out, Logan or storm says, "If your powers returned, that means...." then a shot of Magneto..........

and thus continues another trilogy that will end with Mr. Sinister and the Savage Land
 
ShakiraRocks said:
I CAN JUST IMAGINE THE TRAILER FOR X4


It starts off with Rogue and Bobby in the mansion's garden. They exchange lovely words then they go in for a kiss. While the are kissing Rogue starts to absorb bobby's life force with out realizing it. Bobby passes out and starts to have a convulsions. Rogue screams (just like X1). Then they show alot of scenes, music goes out, Logan or storm says, "If your powers returned, that means...." then a shot of Magneto..........

and thus continues another trilogy that will end with Mr. Sinister and the Savage Land

Oh yeah, and then they show Mystique back with her plasma gun... "hello Eric," and Bam she shots him........ ah, a boy can dream.
 
Uh, why do you think Angel didn't take the cure, kainedamo? Do you know what the significance was behind the flashback when he was a kid?

I'm not sure what your point is.
 
Keymaker said:
Just makes it more real because i think there would be minorities who would take the cure if there would be one.

Umm. no, they wouldn't. Nor should they. The whole idea is to be PROUD of your difference not become like everyone else.

Remember the line Mystique gives in X2 after Nightcrawler asks "Why not become like everyone else?" She replies "Because we shouldn't have to"

Nuff said.
 
I think she shouldn't take it... cause she's protected from others... the only ones who can touch her are those who can only touch her soul...she sould realise she's gifted, not cursed.
 
I strongly feel that the cure was only temporary hence the Magneto scene. It would be nice to see Rogue accidentally killing someone who has the ability to fly and superhuman strength which she permanently absorbs.
 
Comic Rogue would never take the cure...but the movie counterparts are so unlike their comic book origins that I no longer care. I stopped caring when Xavier gave up on Cyclops in the movie :rolleyes:
 
Sometimes people succumb to the pressure to assimilate. Rogue isn't a character of responsibility or charm or any real courage in this continuity. I empathize with her, I don't fault her for getting cured. It's not like she's letting the world or any one else down by quitting.

That's why comic book Rogue didn't take the cure. She relishes her role as as a mutant super-hero too much to let her disability make her quit. I prefer my Rogue with a little sugah.
 
kainedamo said:
The cure is like asking yourself "if I were black, and there was a "cure" for it, would I take it"? And the answer is "sure, sometimes being black is hard, but I am proud of who I am and I shouldn't have to change".
You being black wouldn't mean you couldn't ever touch anyone without killing them. Rogue doesn't take the cure because she doesn't want to be a mutant, but because her unique power puts her in a situation far beyond what most mutants experience.

Aside from that, lots of mutants didn't take the cure, or were disgusted by the very idea. One mutant taking it under extreme circumstances doesn't ruin that message.
 
For those who hated that she got cured, I think Bryan Singer is to blame since he made her out to be an insecure teenager back in X1. It makes perfect sense when she took the cure. She did ask Storm whether or not Xavier can cure her in the X1 deleted scene.

If I were her, I'd take it.
 
You being black wouldn't mean you couldn't ever touch anyone without killing them. Rogue doesn't take the cure because she doesn't want to be a mutant, but because her unique power puts her in a situation far beyond what most mutants experience.

You have missed my point entirely. Being black, particularly during the civil rights movement and before it, was and is sometimes very difficult. So my point stands and you have proved nothing.
 
Sony23 said:
Umm. no, they wouldn't. Nor should they. The whole idea is to be PROUD of your difference not become like everyone else.

Remember the line Mystique gives in X2 after Nightcrawler asks "Why not become like everyone else?" She replies "Because we shouldn't have to"

Nuff said.
How do you know that someone wouldn't? You can read everyone's thoughts, eh? That's cool. :up:
 
kainedamo said:
Rogue taking the cure sends a terrible message to children. She should have appeared at the end and explained why she DIDN'T take the cure.

The cure is like asking yourself "if I were black, and there was a "cure" for it, would I take it"? And the answer is "sure, sometimes being black is hard, but I am proud of who I am and I shouldn't have to change".

Rattner and whoever the hell wrote the script didn't understand the X-Men's message of understanding and tolerance.

You don't get the STORY POINT of it. Sure, there's the mutants who are a metaphor for people who aren't white and catholic with different religions and sexualities and stuff, but the STORY POINT of Rogue was that she wanted to take the cure because she wanted to be with Bobby. In that way, it's lie many teenagers, giving up their entire lives to be with someone they love.
 

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