Rolling Stone's Greatest Albums of the Decade

[Speedball]

I am wondering what bands you guys would offer up as alternatives, or whether you are in fact just a couple of old grandpas and are excercising your right to completely dismiss contemporary music in general.

I've got no problem with all the rock and alternative artists on the list, or MIA, Jay-z, and Outkast. But Eminem has honestly done nothing for music except made it cruder, and Kanye hasn't done anything for music, at all.
And Muse is nowhere on the list.

 

[The Chairman]

Well, the only album that I noticed was missing that I think would've warranted inclusion on the list would be Weird Al Yankovic's Straight Outta Lynwood. It's his most successful album yet. Aside from that, I can't think of any other albums released this decade (it's been a long one, and 01-03 seems like centuries ago) that I liked.

Seriously? No one does what Weird Al does better than Weird Al, but to say he belongs on the same list as Jay-Z, The White Stripes, Bruce Springsteen, P.J. Harvey, Eminem, Kanye, Radiohead and other far more culturally relevant and groundbreaking artist is, like Weird Al's music, laughable.

Weird Al is good relief when you don't want to hear music that's deep or thought provoking, and I wholly appreciate his place in the music world (and I consider myself a huge fan of Weird Al), but there's nothing groundbreaking about what he does. The most you can sy about him is the all time best in his particular genre.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

"Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea" should be wayyyyyyy higher on the list.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

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No, david icke is pretty on the money.

Also, don't use so many ellipses, your post will end up looking ******ed.

 

[Speedball]

No, david icke is pretty on the money.

Also, don't use so many ellipses, your post will end up looking ******ed.

Nevermind... it's pointless to even try...

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, that's exactly it. It has nothing to do with how much I dislike Radiohead, The Strokes, Beck, Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Green Day (post American Idiot), Kings of Leon, Bjork, Franz Ferdinand, and The Hives. That's not including all of the rap artists (which I generally don't like as a genre) and the bands that I've never heard of.

If you don't like "Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea", at least one Radiohead album, or "Vespertine" then you have no soul.

Also, the total lack of Broken Social Scene, Neko Case, "It's Blitz!" (far better than "Fever To Tell", as was "Show Your Bones"), and Rilo Kiley/Jenny Lewis is pretty glaring. Albums from those artists definitely deserve some spots occupied by lesser artists.

Also, I didn't see any Clap Your Hands Say Yeah or Blonde Redhead. This list could definitely use some revisions, but overall it's decent. With the amount of "best of the decade" lists that DIDN'T include "Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea", this one gains some credibility. But y'know, the lack of "You Forgot It In People", "Mass Romantic", "Acid Tongue", or "Under the Blacklight" is pretty shameful.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Nevermind... it's pointless to even try...

You didn't "try" anything in the first place other than make a post with a bunch of ellipses and a dry face.

And Muse not being on the list probably has something to do with the fact that they're a less-than-mediocre Radiohead ripoff group that's only marginally popular outside of Britain.

 

[Bat Attack]

YYY's, Arcade Fire, and The White Stripes made the list....I am satisfied.

 

[Bat Attack]

Also, the total lack of Broken Social Scene, Neko Case, "It's Blitz!" (far better than "Fever To Tell", as was "Show Your Bones"), and Rilo Kiley/Jenny Lewis is pretty glaring. Albums from those artists definitely deserve some spots occupied by lesser artists.

Agree 100%. It's Blitz! is probably the one album I've listened to the most this year. Definitley my favorite YYY's work so far.

 

[SuperFerret]

If you don't like "Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea", at least one Radiohead album, or "Vespertine" then you have no soul.

Also, the total lack of Broken Social Scene, Neko Case, "It's Blitz!" (far better than "Fever To Tell", as was "Show Your Bones"), and Rilo Kiley/Jenny Lewis is pretty glaring. Albums from those artists definitely deserve some spots occupied by lesser artists.

Also, I didn't see any Clap Your Hands Say Yeah or Blonde Redhead. This list could definitely use some revisions, but overall it's decent. With the amount of "best of the decade" lists that DIDN'T include "Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea", this one gains some credibility. But y'know, the lack of "You Forgot It In People", "Mass Romantic", "Acid Tongue", or "Under the Blacklight" is pretty shameful.

Radiohead has never appealed to me, and the rest of your post might as well be in Chinese.

 

[Speedball]

You didn't "try" anything in the first place other than make a post with a bunch of ellipses and a dry face.

And Muse not being on the list probably has something to do with the fact that they're a less-than-mediocre Radiohead ripoff group that's only marginally popular outside of Britain.

I can't really say what I need to say on a message board. If I were talking to you in person, it would be much easier.
And also, the post wasn't really meant to be taken THAT seriously, but you obviously did.
Eminem is a tool. He raps about beating women and murdering his wife. He doesn't deserve my time. If I met him, I would probably ignore him completely because I don't regard him as a human being.

 

[Speedball]

Edit- NVM... Everyone's opinion is just going to make what ever I say or anyone else say moot about this ******ed list.

 

[Motown Marvel]

Fever to tell is soooooooo much better than any other yeah yeah yeah's album!

 

[Sarge 2.0]

But it only has like, five good songs on it.

 

[david icke]

To say Satriani's stuff is not expressive or well thought out is.. well, quite laughable really.

Ok, I am not *that* familiar with his stuff, but from what I have heard, and from what other musician friends have said, he is over reliant on showing off, and after a couple of tracks you're basically getting the same old story over and over.

 

[david icke]

I've got no problem with all the rock and alternative artists on the list, or MIA, Jay-z, and Outkast. But Eminem has honestly done nothing for music except made it cruder, and Kanye hasn't done anything for music, at all.

Ok, but that doesn't match up with your previous post where you gave a triple thumbs up smiley fest agreeing with Superferrett that the whole list was bad.

To say that Eminem has done nothing for music apart from making it 'cruder' is naive and ignorant. sorry.
Old fogies were saying that about Elvis back in the day, and we basically wouldn't be having this conversation without that guy.

And Muse is nowhere on the list.

Apart from one song, I didn't rate Muse at all until they did their 'Black holes and Revelations' album, it took them quite a while but they finally did a good one, and I would have put it on the list.

 

[Lasirius]

If you don't like "Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea", at least one Radiohead album, or "Vespertine" then you have no soul.

Also, the total lack of Broken Social Scene, Neko Case, "It's Blitz!" (far better than "Fever To Tell", as was "Show Your Bones"), and Rilo Kiley/Jenny Lewis is pretty glaring. Albums from those artists definitely deserve some spots occupied by lesser artists.

Also, I didn't see any Clap Your Hands Say Yeah or Blonde Redhead. This list could definitely use some revisions, but overall it's decent. With the amount of "best of the decade" lists that DIDN'T include "Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea", this one gains some credibility. But y'know, the lack of "You Forgot It In People", "Mass Romantic", "Acid Tongue", or "Under the Blacklight" is pretty shameful.

Completely agree with you here, "Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea" is a fantastic album. Though it's a decent list, I get bothered how there are only well-known artists. There are a ****load of albums out there much better than the ones on that list.

 

[Neptune]

I agree about Eminem. You don't have to like his music but you can not claim that all he's done is make music cruder. He's one of the most creative rappers, same goes for Kanye.

I would have liked to see N.E.R.D's first album in that list. In search of is CLASSIC!!!

 

[Motown Marvel]

But it only has like, five good songs on it.

psh, every song on that album is good.

completely unrelated to my feelings about the music: i want to bone the hell out of karen o.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Who doesn't?

 

[SuperFerret]

Ok, but that doesn't match up with your previous post where you gave a triple thumbs up smiley fest agreeing with Superferrett that the whole list was bad.

To say that Eminem has done nothing for music apart from making it 'cruder' is naive and ignorant. sorry.
Old fogies were saying that about Elvis back in the day, and we basically wouldn't be having this conversation without that guy.




Apart from one song, I didn't rate Muse at all until they did their 'Black holes and Revelations' album, it took them quite a while but they finally did a good one, and I would have put it on the list.

Goddammit. One "T", just one. And comparing Eminem to Elvis is just wrong.

Also, reread my post, I never said anything about the whole list being bad.

 

[david icke]

Goddammit. One "T", just one. And comparing Eminem to Elvis is just wrong.

Not really, when both have been accused of being nothing more than crude performers, while in reality are performers who have broken new ground artistically and culturally.

Who was the only massively successful white rapper before Eminem? Vanilla Ice, a guy who sold out his values for the dough and made no records of consequence.

Also, reread my post, I never said anything about the whole list being bad.

In your first post, the one I was talking about there, you said that Rolling stone have a hard on for bad music going by that list, you did not mention one act or record on there you liked.
What is a person supposed to think from that statement alone, never mind the next one where you dismissed a slew of artists on the list, said you couldn't think of any records you liked from at least 2003, and only put Weird Al forward as a suggestion for inclusion?

 

[SuperFerret]

Everyone speaks in broad sweeping generalizations and nobody says anything about it.

Honestly, do you think I'm that lame to say that the likes of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan are bad? I put Weird Al out for discussion because (a) I'm a fan, and (b) it was his most successful album to date. "Greatest" is a very nebulous term, so how am I supposed to know that the general consensus would be that the music would need to be "culturally relevant" to get onto the list (I could make an argument for Weird Al with his satire of pop culture, but I won't).

That said, the majority of artists on there are either artists I wholly dislike, not my style, or completely unknown to me.

 

[david icke]

Honestly, do you think I'm that lame to say that the likes of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan are bad?

I don't know, maybe you just didn't like their stuff from the last ten years and thought they were past it. I can only go by what you say or imply.

I put Weird Al out for discussion because (a) I'm a fan, and (b) it was his most successful album to date. "Greatest" is a very nebulous term, so how am I supposed to know that the general consensus would be that the music would need to be "culturally relevant" to get onto the list (I could make an argument for Weird Al with his satire of pop culture, but I won't).

I don't recall anyone saying that your own suggestions had to be folk who made a massive impact on culture. Just what you liked and thought was the best in your opinion.
But, with the big mags, that is generally the types they vote for in these kind of lists, that is pretty much a given.

That said, the majority of artists on there are either artists I wholly dislike, not my style, or completely unknown to me.

I don't know most of the albums on there, I just stuck to talking about the ones I knew.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Everyone speaks in broad sweeping generalizations and nobody says anything about it.

Honestly, do you think I'm that lame to say that the likes of Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan are bad? I put Weird Al out for discussion because (a) I'm a fan, and (b) it was his most successful album to date. "Greatest" is a very nebulous term, so how am I supposed to know that the general consensus would be that the music would need to be "culturally relevant" to get onto the list (I could make an argument for Weird Al with his satire of pop culture, but I won't).

That said, the majority of artists on there are either artists I wholly dislike, not my style, or completely unknown to me.

Poodle Hat was really good, too.