The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rotten Tomatoes score? - Part 1

[Leenie]

Oh, and he works for Sony too :P

Yes? I understand working for a business and trying to make decisions to make that business money, but eventually that money and good reputation is going to wear off if you keep trying to intervene to the point of dictating the filmmakers' visions.

 

[Mr. Dent]

The world building aspect seems to be a negative mentioned in a lot of the reviews. I can't help but wonder how much of the blame belongs to Avi Arad.

http://www.businessweek.com/article...vels-superhero-at-running-movie-franchises#p3

If Arad left Marvel over the interconnected universe strategy, is he really the right person to oversee Sony's attempt to emulate it?

Of course he's not. Everything that is happening right now is a retroactive reaction to Marvel Studio's success. It's not something Sony is doing out of pure love for the character or something that they hatched themselves after serious thought, it's just a pure cash grab with a rinse and repeat strategy. This is my problem with what's happening right now, and I'm really scared what Fox and Sony are trying to shoehorn will end up hurting the CBM genre as a whole. Spider-Man is not meant to be a cinematic universe....it's SPIDER-MAN. Trying to force Venom and Sinister Six movies is just overcrowding the marketplace with questionable source material, and if they suck it just gives critics more bullets to fire on CBMs being too repetitive and oversaturating the market.

 

[Leenie]

Of course he's not. Everything that is happening right now is a retroactive reaction to Marvel Studio's success. It's not something Sony is doing out of pure love for the character or something that they hatched themselves after serious thought, it's just a pure cash grab with a rinse and repeat strategy. This is my problem with what's happening right now, and I'm really scared what Fox and Sony are trying to shoehorn will end up hurting the CBM genre as a whole. Spider-Man is not meant to be a cinematic universe....it's SPIDER-MAN. Trying to force Venom and Sinister Six movies is just overcrowding the marketplace with questionable source material, and if they suck it just gives critics more bullets to fire on CBMs being too repetitive and oversaturating the market.

A+ post

 

[Spider-Aziz]

How long are you going to hold onto that? We already have a consensus out, there is very very little chance of a dramatic shift at this point, we're nearly 40 reviews in and it already has a lower score than the first ever did. I don't think the first ever dipped this low, even earlier on.

Makes me wonder if it will go lower than 68% by the end of critics collection

 

[jmc]

Of course he's not. Everything that is happening right now is a retroactive reaction to Marvel Studio's success. It's not something Sony is doing out of pure love for the character or something that they hatched themselves after serious thought, it's just a pure cash grab with a rinse and repeat strategy. This is my problem with what's happening right now, and I'm really scared what Fox and Sony are trying to shoehorn will end up hurting the CBM genre as a whole. Spider-Man is not meant to be a cinematic universe....it's SPIDER-MAN. Trying to force Venom and Sinister Six movies is just overcrowding the marketplace with questionable source material, and if they suck it just gives critics more bullets to fire on CBMs being too repetitive and oversaturating the market.

I still don't get how you even do a Sinister 6 movie.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I still don't get how you even do a Sinister 6 movie.

Simple, waste money on a project about villains not many care about

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I wonder what the tone around here is going to be like when the 3rd film starts filming and set pieces and plot details start trickling in? This really does seem like one of the worse scenarios this movie could have ended up in.

The trailer just made the movie so obviously look like a mess that I thought that it couldn't never be that, well, obvious lol SM3's trailers never made it look like as much of a mess as it turned out to be. I would think, all things considered, they'd realize how people would come to the conclusion of it being unfocused due to all the clips and trailers, but have an ace up their sleeve when it comes to the actual movie itself.

I'll still see it, but I have to say my excitment has been wanning for the last few days, almost every single one of my fears have been confirmed by a pretty significant chunk of people. This movie better not become the first rotten Spider-Man movie because if it is, it doesn't exactly seen great signals for the next film in the franchise.

 

[spiderman2]

while i disagree about the tralier making the movie look like a mess. Form the tralier this movie looked like it might be better then spider man 2 and looked like it was going to have ever thing. Looked like it had spider man's persanlity perfect and looked like it was going to have a great store and action. I do wounder how people will look at the amazing spider man 3. For me if this movie is a dissoptment i will probly not follow the next one has closly. Becuase that would make to spider man movies that looked great that truned out to not be in spider man 3 and the amazing spider man 2 witch means that even if the tralier for the amazing spider man 3 look amazing i would just be like while its going to dissapot again. Its looking like maybe sony is better at making spider man traliers then the movies them self. I am shocked that this moive is not doing better right now i really am.

 

[spiderman2]

So yeah to me this is like spider man 3 all over again great looking movie basied off the traliers but truned out to not be great. I hope that the reviews start to trun around or that this is one of those movies that the credits are wrong about and is a lot better then what they say. My excitement for the amazing spider man 1 was a 5 becuase i was agest the reboot and thought it would suck but i liked it and becuase i like it and thought this one looked like it was going to be great my excitment went up to like a 8.5-9 for this one but affter the reviews i am now more like a 7.5-8.

 

[marcvader]

My impression from the trailers was that this was going to be stuffed with too many elements and over reliant of the cgi spectacle.

 

[spiderman2]

my impression where that sony had learned form spider man 3's mistakes and was going to do a much better job with balanceing the movie then they did with spider man 3.

 

[Lord]

I never spoke much of the trailer because i found it a bit messy and the look a little "plastic" to me, while most were raving about how good it looked. From these reviews it seems like this will be similar to the previous one, but more crowded.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I just wonder how much Sony interfered with Webb's vision this time around.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Of course he's not. Everything that is happening right now is a retroactive reaction to Marvel Studio's success. It's not something Sony is doing out of pure love for the character or something that they hatched themselves after serious thought, it's just a pure cash grab with a rinse and repeat strategy. This is my problem with what's happening right now, and I'm really scared what Fox and Sony are trying to shoehorn will end up hurting the CBM genre as a whole. Spider-Man is not meant to be a cinematic universe....it's SPIDER-MAN. Trying to force Venom and Sinister Six movies is just overcrowding the marketplace with questionable source material, and if they suck it just gives critics more bullets to fire on CBMs being too repetitive and oversaturating the market.

Agree 100% made the same point earlier in a different thread, or even this one, the MCU worked and is working because it was unique now everyone wants a piece of the pie and they are going to possibly mess it up for everyone, we are going to be getting a bunch of IM2's, arguabbly better IM2's but still IM2's but the thing about IM2 is that ...it Had IM1 and TIH before it and films after it that not everyone may love but most did and MS learned that lesson. So even though IM2 is a bad MCU film is fits in with those films as a whole pretty decently. Just like T:TDW which to me is second worst MCU film (IMO)

I personally don't necessarily want MS to get these licenses back though because A. SM and X-Men are glory hogs and we probably wouldn't get unique films like GOTG and Ant Man coming out and B. we get to have these movies alongside MCU films more regularly, I just wish all these universes were more planned out a la MCU rather than shoehorning to play catch up. Still looking forward to this film either way going in with an open mind and expecting at the very least the best depiction of Spider-Man on screen yet even if the surrounding film isn't the greatest.

BTW just a disclaimer not judging this film yet I'm speaking generally, I still have high hopes that I will like this film, I'm a bit more jaded with fox though, but they have let me down more times than Sony.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

This is a pretty good write-up on how the other studios are now following Marvel's path and their pros and cons of trying to copy such a formula...

http://io9.com/which-studios-attempt-to-copy-marvels-movie-universe-1555390988

 

[MahvelBaby!]

This is a pretty good write-up on how the other studios are now following Marvel's path and their pros and cons of trying to copy such a formula...

http://io9.com/which-studios-attempt-to-copy-marvels-movie-universe-1555390988

I agree with this section a lot

"They made everything the result of OsCorp being an evil corporation, which means a few movies down the line, we'll be fighting OsCorp itself — and that means the kind of "evil board meeting" scenes the Lego Movie spoofed. If you want a larger universe, having lots of different causes for your heroes and villains to get powers is actually better. It suggests that aliens and weird science and craziness are happening everywhere, not just in one building. Having all your uncanny stuff happen in just one building actually makes your universe seem smaller."

 

[Lord]

That article should also talk about Evil Dead and Transformers/ G.I.Joe, as from rumors it seems like those franchises are following MS's example when it comes to crossovers.

 

[def28]

This is a pretty good write-up on how the other studios are now following Marvel's path and their pros and cons of trying to copy such a formula...

http://io9.com/which-studios-attempt-to-copy-marvels-movie-universe-1555390988

Gotta agree with them on Black Cat. She could be an easy candidate for her own flick.

Sinister 6 is interesting though. Curious on how that turns out.

 

[Lord]

The "Age of Megafranchises" makes me less excited for the future of film blockbusters, i don't mind getting a Venom or Star Wars spin-off now and then, but making it an annual thing? That sounds to me like oversaturation.

 

[def28]

The "Age of Megafranchises" makes me less excited for the future of film blockbusters, i don't mind getting a Venom or Star Wars spin-off now and then, but making it an annual thing? That sounds to me like oversaturation.

As long as studios are making great movies I don't think there will be a problem personally. My main worry is that most these studios don't know how to make it work and just want the big score. It's gonna be mediocre attempts or flat out ****** pics being made at abundance. That's gonna be a major hit to comic book movies reputation. Quality will determine their fate imo.

 

[FN Spider-man]

I really don't like sony right now and to me it seems that they're getting in the way of Marc Webb I used to think it was both Raimi and Sony's fault but now i'm starting to see who the real villian is here

I also a agree that Spidey is not made to be stretched soo thin and trying to build a universe

 

[Perry9]

As long as studios are making great movies I don't think there will be a problem personally. My main worry is that most these studios don't know how to make it work and just want the big score. It's gonna be mediocre attempts or flat out ****** pics being made at abundance. That's gonna be a major hit to comic book movies reputation. Quality will determine their fate imo.

It really goes down to the people that you hire to do the films. Sony hired Drew Goddard to direct and write the SS film and many people would agree that this guy is VERY talented. So we really should wait and see how it all works out.

 

[def28]

It really goes down to the people that you hire to do the films. Sony hired Drew Goddard to direct and write the SS film and many people would agree that this guy is VERY talented. So we really should wait and see how it all works out.

Drew Goodard is awesome. I'm talking in general, not just Sony.

 

[Perry9]

Drew Goodard is awesome. I'm talking in general, not just Sony.

Aw okay.

 

[def28]

I hope this turns out great for Sony. Just skeptical on the current trend at the moment. Even with good film makers studio's can sometimes push them in the wrong direction.