The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rotten Tomatoes score? - Part 1

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah I understand that's your opinion and I'm okay with that, I was just acknowledging how much forgiving you seem to be to the Marvel Studios films than you are to TASM. I feel that Iron Man 1 is basically awesome BECAUSE of RDJ, because the story itself was very thin, and that's one of my favorite Marvel Studios films. The performance of RDJ is basically the film for me, and I feel that TASM has even more things going for the film, especially Andrew Garfield's performance, that I feel it's as good as RDJ's Iron Man and Ledger's Joker. Andrew Garfield IS Spider-Man to me, just like RDJ IS Iron Man.

Not saying that TASM is perfect, there are a lot of flaws, but it's not more flawed than the best Marvel Studios origin stories, meaning Iron Man and Captain America: The First Avenger

I think Marvel Studios has just made better movies, overall. I can't think of any scene in the Marvel films as painful as the crane sequence in TASM was. Hence why I am harder on it than Marvel's films. They just felt more focused (sans IM2 and Thor 2) than TASM did. Which is why I think most people don't criticize them as much.

 

[DA_Champion]

A good deconstruction of the script problems with TASM:

Film Crit Hulk Smash: THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN HAS 99 PROBLEMS BUT AN UNCLE BEN AIN’T ONE
http://badassdigest.com/2012/07/06/...g-spider-man-has-99-problems-but-an-uncle-be/

 

[Airnick]

I think Marvel Studios has just made better movies, overall. I can't think of any scene in the Marvel films as painful as the crane sequence in TASM was. Hence why I am harder on it than Marvel's films. They just felt more focused (sans IM2 and Thor 2) than TASM did. Which is why I think most people don't criticize them as much.

The crane scene was probably my favorite scene in TASM lol.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

The crane scene was probably my favorite scene in TASM lol.

It's mine as well. And if Ultimate Spider-Man is the kind of template that Marvel Studios would use to make Spider-Man part of the MCU - the rookie superhero thing - I hope that The Amazing Spider-Man's franchise keeps going for decades, and that the world building that Sony is doing is proven successful.

Spider-Man is big enough to have a world build around him just fine. My only complaint it's that it'd be cool to see Spider-Man fighting alongside the other New York superheroes, like Daredevil, Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

With that said, with so many claiming that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the best Spider-Man film yet - and some people even claiming it's the best Marvel film period - the future looks bright to the spider-fans over the world. t:

 

[spiderman2]

I dont know how any one can not like the crane scene . It was a great and like the only good part of what was a bad soundtrack in the movie over all.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The crane scene was probably my favorite scene in TASM lol.

I can't say how much I hate that part, LOL! It's illogical (would have taken MUCH longer to organize), it stiffles the action around the movie for a couple minutes, and wasn't necessary to the narrative. Honestly, I didn't think HOW Spider-Man gets to the final fight was needed at all. Him getting there with a bum leg was good enough. But, the entire finale takes that detour and basically stops the momentum on getting to the Lizard in favor of a montage. I would MUCH rather have seen the Lizardmen (that the movie forgot existed) preventing an injured Spider-Man from getting to Connors, as opposed to an obstacle that Spider-Man (with his webshooters) should be able to overcome.

I hate that scene, lol.

 

[Hammer!]

I prefer the crane scene in TASM to the tornado scene in MOS. Both were probably the two worst we have scene in the genre in years, though.

I liked the notion behind the crane scene, but hated the music, the set-up, and the fake out of Spidey missing the first crane.

 

[Airnick]

I can't say how much I hate that part, LOL! It's illogical (would have taken MUCH longer to organize), it stiffles the action around the movie for a couple minutes, and wasn't necessary to the narrative. Honestly, I didn't think HOW Spider-Man gets to the final fight was needed at all. Him getting there with a bum leg was good enough. But, the entire finale takes that detour and basically stops the momentum on getting to the Lizard in favor of a montage. I would MUCH rather have seen the Lizardmen (that the movie forgot existed) preventing an injured Spider-Man from getting to Connors, as opposed to an obstacle that Spider-Man (with his webshooters) should be able to overcome.

I hate that scene, lol.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I don't want to get into a big debate about it lol. Especially as it would be off topic.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I prefer the crane scene in TASM to the tornado scene in MOS. Both were probably the two worst we have scene in the genre in years, though.

I liked the notion behind the crane scene, but hated the music, the set-up, and the fake out of Spidey missing the first crane.

Yeah, that tornado in MoS is quite awful, LOL!

I get what the crane scene was supposed to mean, but honestly, I think the scene where he saves the kid and says "I'm Spider-Man" was so awesome, they should have just left it there. I feel bringing him back for that inferior scene only makes an amazing scene a little less cool.

 

[Hammer!]

I can't say how much I hate that part, LOL! It's illogical (would have taken MUCH longer to organize), it stiffles the action around the movie for a couple minutes, and wasn't necessary to the narrative. Honestly, I didn't think HOW Spider-Man gets to the final fight was needed at all. Him getting there with a bum leg was good enough. But, the entire finale takes that detour and basically stops the momentum on getting to the Lizard in favor of a montage. I would MUCH rather have seen the Lizardmen (that the movie forgot existed) preventing an injured Spider-Man from getting to Connors, as opposed to an obstacle that Spider-Man (with his webshooters) should be able to overcome.

I hate that scene, lol.

lol right? We have no idea if they turned animalistic and started attacking New Yorkers, or if they just cried in the corner, "Woe is me for being a Lizard-man."

Comicbookgirl19 made mention of something in her review that I haven't heard anywhere else, but did the movie ever even explicitly say that Conners' adjusted the formula so the Lizard form didn't wear off? There was never a "Eureka" scene. So his plan was to temporary turn everyone into Lizards? I'm sure an exposition scene of him in the lab acknowledging this was cut, but it really needed to be in there.

Definitely agree about your generalized assessment that the movie is an odd mix of sheer brilliance and stupidity, for lack of a better word BTW.

 

[Spider-Fan]

lol right? We have no idea if they turned animalistic and started attacking New Yorkers, or if they just cried in the corner, "Woe is me for being a Lizard-man."

Comicbookgirl19 made mention of something in her review that I haven't heard anywhere else, but did the movie ever even explicitly say that Conners' adjusted the formula so the Lizard form didn't wear off? There was never a "Eureka" scene. So his plan was to temporary turn everyone into Lizards? I'm sure an exposition scene of him in the lab acknowledging this was cut, but it really needed to be in there.

Definitely agree about your generalized assessment that the movie is an odd mix of sheer brilliance and stupidity, for lack of a better word BTW.

Actually, that did occur to me when I saw the movie a 2nd time. Eventually, everyone should have just turned human again. Just would have been that awkward thing that everyone remembers, but nobody talks about

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I can't say how much I hate that part, LOL! It's illogical (would have taken MUCH longer to organize), it stiffles the action around the movie for a couple minutes, and wasn't necessary to the narrative. Honestly, I didn't think HOW Spider-Man gets to the final fight was needed at all. Him getting there with a bum leg was good enough. But, the entire finale takes that detour and basically stops the momentum on getting to the Lizard in favor of a montage. I would MUCH rather have seen the Lizardmen (that the movie forgot existed) preventing an injured Spider-Man from getting to Connors, as opposed to an obstacle that Spider-Man (with his webshooters) should be able to overcome.

I hate that scene, lol.

Unlike Superman, Batman, Iron Man and even Captain America, Spider-Man isn't simply a savior, someone that could easily be deemed better than any of us. He is one of us. He is part of New York. Batman made a fictional city almost real in our imagination, Spider-Man in the other hand became part of the culture and looks almost real to a real city, he is literally part of New York City, both in comics and in the real life. He is forever linked and bounded to that city and he is pretty much a hero that works better within the limits of New York City skyscrapers.

And that's why that scene works so well with Spider-Man and that's why I love to see the aspect of the every man helping out Spidey and helping him out, from the Raimi's films to Webb's, I like the overall everyman feeling that I get from these films. It makes Spidey unique to me. To each his own, I guess.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Unlike Superman, Batman, Iron Man and even Captain America, Spider-Man isn't simply a savior, someone that could easily be deemed better than any of us. He is one of us. He is part of New York. Batman made a fictional city almost real in our imagination, Spider-Man in the other hand became part of the culture and looks almost real to a real city, he is literally part of New York City, both in comics and in the real life. He is forever linked and bounded to that city and he is pretty much a hero that works better within the limits of New York City skycrapers.

And that's why that scene works so well with Spider-Man and that's why I love to see the aspect of the every man helping out Spidey and helping him out, from the Raimi's films to Webb's, I like the overall everyman feeling that I get from these films. It makes Spidey unique to me. To each his own, I guess.

I don't want to keep this thread derailed too much longer, so I will only make one more point on this. I get all of that symbollically, but the same can be said for the New Yorkers saving Spidey from GG in SM1. That scene also sucks and is incredibly cheesy. I get the symbolism of Spidey is one of us and all that, but the scene in terms of the movie itself slows it down, injects an illogical situation into a critical point in the film where the anticipation should be continuously mounting, and wastes valuable screentime that could have been used to fix other holes in the film. Perfect example being, what is going on with the Lizardmen on the street of New York? The movie never shows us them once they're created until they're being cured.

Honestly, you can cut that entire sequence out, and just cut to Spider-Man arriving to Oscorp tower. You won't know you missed anything. In general with movies, that means it is a useless scene. Not always, but that is often the case.

 

[Nemeres]

I prefer the crane scene in TASM to the tornado scene in MOS. Both were probably the two worst we have scene in the genre in years, though.

Have to agree with this.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I don't want to keep this thread derailed too much longer, so I will only make one more point on this. I get all of that symbollically, but the same can be said for the New Yorkers saving Spidey from GG in SM1. That scene also sucks and is incredibly cheesy. I get the symbolism of Spidey is one of us and all that, but the scene in terms of the movie itself slows it down, injects an illogical situation into a critical point in the film where the anticipation should be continuously mounting, and wastes valuable screentime that could have been used to fix other holes in the film. Perfect example being, what is going on with the Lizardmen on the street of New York? The movie never shows us them once they're created until they're being cured.

Honestly, you can cut that entire sequence out, and just cut to Spider-Man arriving to Oscorp tower. You won't know you missed anything. In general with movies, that means it is a useless scene. Not always, but that is often the case.

Hmm, that's why I will always fundamentally disagree with your opinions on Spider-Man films, I guess. Yes, the Lizard aspect of the film was VERY flawed, but not much that differently than Obadiah Stane's Iron Monger in Iron Man.

I see the crane scene within my own continuity, and something tells me that regardless what the suits says, it was put there to somehow suggest that it was linked to The Avengers. The crane scene to me shows how New York is dealing with the events from some big destruction that happened, and Spidey got to Oscorp because New York citzens helped him get there, people doing what is right is a fundamental thing of what Spider-Man is about, I fail to see how that could be deemed useless, especially within the context of The Amazing Spider-Man, where more than once Peter Parker is shown why using his powers to do good could pay off for him.

Remember, that scene happens directly because Spider-Man saved the little kid named Jack in the bridge. His father was thankful for Spider-Man's selfless act and asked his friends to help him out clear the way for Spider-Man get the fastest possible to Oscorp. That scene literally got me tear eyed the first time, and still does every now and then. I like the message, regardless how corny it is.

 

[Human Torch]

I can't say how much I hate that part, LOL! It's illogical (would have taken MUCH longer to organize), it stiffles the action around the movie for a couple minutes, and wasn't necessary to the narrative. Honestly, I didn't think HOW Spider-Man gets to the final fight was needed at all. Him getting there with a bum leg was good enough. But, the entire finale takes that detour and basically stops the momentum on getting to the Lizard in favor of a montage. I would MUCH rather have seen the Lizardmen (that the movie forgot existed) preventing an injured Spider-Man from getting to Connors, as opposed to an obstacle that Spider-Man (with his webshooters) should be able to overcome.

I hate that scene, lol.

Ohh,good gosh,yes!

 

[TheFuture]

I would be really happy if it stayed in the 70's, I don't think that'll happen but I'm hopeful.

Have seen it and I think it's absolutely worth staying in the 70-80% percentile. Falling below 70 would be harsh, then again, RT often perplexes me anyway. MOS, for example, while not great is definitely worth more than 50% or whatever the hell it's at.

 

[spider-neil]

It's in the 70's now so will almost certainly drop into the 60's when it hits the states.

 

[AnneFan]

I think Marvel Studios has just made better movies, overall. I can't think of any scene in the Marvel films as painful as the crane sequence in TASM was. Hence why I am harder on it than Marvel's films. They just felt more focused (sans IM2 and Thor 2) than TASM did. Which is why I think most people don't criticize them as much.

TASM gets a pass mark from me, but I think it lacks a certain 'oomph'. I found TASM2 to be a step up. Getting the origin out of the way helped.

 

[Leenie]

I prefer the crane scene in TASM to the tornado scene in MOS. Both were probably the two worst we have scene in the genre in years, though.

I liked the notion behind the crane scene, but hated the music, the set-up, and the fake out of Spidey missing the first crane.

The crane scene from TASM isn't the most terrible thing ever out of context. In context to the movie, and in context to what a lot of TASM fans say about the movie (about how it's less campy and "totally serial"), the scene annoys me. I otherwise wouldn't really nitpick at it, because there are other scenes in TASM that tick me off far more than that one ... Like the Lizard S.W.A.T. Team setup. One of the biggest teases in a movie ever. So stupid.

The MOS tornado scene was fine until what it was building up to happened, then it was just really bad, haha.

 

[Human Torch]

I'll be really surprised if I like it less. Pretty unlikely.

Well,I've got a free ticket to it,so worse case scenario happens,I still don't waste a single centavo.t:

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think Marvel Studios has just made better movies, overall. I can't think of any scene in the Marvel films as painful as the crane sequence in TASM was. Hence why I am harder on it than Marvel's films. They just felt more focused (sans IM2 and Thor 2) than TASM did. Which is why I think most people don't criticize them as much.

Other than IM, TWS, and TA, I think most of the MCU films are pretty mediocre.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Have seen it and I think it's absolutely worth staying in the 70-80% percentile. Falling below 70 would be harsh, then again, RT often perplexes me anyway. MOS, for example, while not great is definitely worth more than 50% or whatever the hell it's at.

Although I'm not a huge fan of MOS, it does NOT deserve 56%. I think 70s would have been more fair, especially when Superman Returns has 76%.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The average went 0.1+, from 6.1/10 - 6.2/10
This is a surprise

33 out of 46 are fresh tomatoes

 

[LizardMan07]

You never know, it may go UP when it hits the US.

After seeing the film for myself, I totally don't care about what the RT is, I absolutely adored the film, the people I watched it did and TASM2 is being made, so RT seems more and more trivial