Age of Ultron Ruffahulk Ruffasmash

[A Necessary Evil]

I love my b-e-a-utiful green eyes enough, I'll pass....ferrr nnooowwww.

 

[Doc Samson]

I always preferred the Hulk to be this constant, menacing threat that can appear at any time and not be used as a convenient weapon when the need arises. The Banner/Hulk character should be unpredictable, and both personas should be uncomfortable with the other while through necessity maintaining an uneasy understanding. A mind-controlled Hulk rampage would be unimaginative and VERY disappointing.

The thing I'm looking forward to the most is the possibility of Banner/Hulk finally having a psychological confrontation. Ang touched on it briefly in his movie, but that's always been the main draw of the character for me. That never-ending battle for control, the animosity and disdain they have for each other and the dichotomy that they do, in fact, need each other no matter how much they hate to admit it.

Why is it unimaginative to have the Hulk, who is a mental midget, be mind-controlled but it's not unimaginative to have the unstable guy fight the heroes again?

Oh make no mistake , IMO, that's unimaginative too. The hook there is really the Hulkbuster armor, which outside of the Silver Centurion, has always been a favorite of mine and something I've wanted to see on the big screen. Other than that, yes, it's somewhat of a retread again.

 

[Spitfire]

The thing I'm looking forward to the most is the possibility of Banner/Hulk finally having a psychological confrontation. Ang touched on it briefly in his movie, but that's always been the main draw of the character for me. That never-ending battle for control, the animosity and disdain they have for each other and the dichotomy that they do, in fact, need each other no matter how much they hate to admit it.

While the Ang movie has many flaws, providing depth to the characters definitely isn't one of them. I was a little disappointed when Whedon hinted in his recent interview that fans didn't really want to see Banner and only wanted to see Hulk (comparing the character to a werewolf). The psychological confrontation you describe above is what I love about the character and I want to see Hulk and Banner! I hope Whedon was referring to a blurring of the boundaries between the two personas so we get to see them both on screen together and interacting.

The second trailer has increased my enthusiasm for the Hulkbuster scene because the look on Starks face is pure hatred and anger. I think it is just two close friends having one almighty fight which inevitably brings out the worst of both men.

 

[Lilbaz]

While the Ang movie has many flaws, providing depth to the characters definitely isn't one of them. I was a little disappointed when Whedon hinted in his recent interview that fans didn't really want to see Banner and only wanted to see Hulk (comparing the character to a werewolf). The psychological confrontation you describe above is what I love about the character and I want to see Hulk and Banner! I hope Whedon was referring to a blurring of the boundaries between the two personas so we get to see them both on screen together and interacting.

The second trailer has increased my enthusiasm for the Hulkbuster scene because the look on Starks face is pure hatred and anger. I think it is just two close friends having one almighty fight which inevitably brings out the worst of both men.

Did love the Hulk comics where inside Banners mind they showed the battle between green/grey and banner. The bloke is not all there and the hulk is just a manifestation of that.
Would love it if they delved deeper into that aspect of him. Doubly love if the grey hulk makes an appearance at some point.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

While the Ang movie has many flaws, providing depth to the characters definitely isn't one of them. I was a little disappointed when Whedon hinted in his recent interview that fans didn't really want to see Banner and only wanted to see Hulk (comparing the character to a werewolf). The psychological confrontation you describe above is what I love about the character and I want to see Hulk and Banner! I hope Whedon was referring to a blurring of the boundaries between the two personas so we get to see them both on screen together and interacting.

The second trailer has increased my enthusiasm for the Hulkbuster scene because the look on Starks face is pure hatred and anger. I think it is just two close friends having one almighty fight which inevitably brings out the worst of both men.

Yep. Whedon can count me out of the camp that just wants to see Hulk. The most endearing aspect of Bruce and Hulk is the psychological aspect of the characters is what draws to me the most. Of course, we got that in 03' and everyone in the world said how unfaithful it was the Hulk and how it sucked, so expect Hulk smash instead.

 

[Doc Samson]

While the Ang movie has many flaws, providing depth to the characters definitely isn't one of them. I was a little disappointed when Whedon hinted in his recent interview that fans didn't really want to see Banner and only wanted to see Hulk (comparing the character to a werewolf). The psychological confrontation you describe above is what I love about the character and I want to see Hulk and Banner! I hope Whedon was referring to a blurring of the boundaries between the two personas so we get to see them both on screen together and interacting.

The problem has always been the approach to the Banner character. The previous Hulk movies played up the repressed emotions a bit too much.

For all of its flaws, the TV show proved that Banner could be interesting, the Hulk was rarely in it for more than 15 minutes total. It wasn't until Ruffalo that a movie made Banner somewhat entertaining in his own regard similar to what Bixby did.

Did love the Hulk comics where inside Banners mind they showed the battle between green/grey and banner. The bloke is not all there and the hulk is just a manifestation of that.
Would love it if they delved deeper into that aspect of him. Doubly love if the grey hulk makes an appearance at some point.

Been calling for a grey Hulk appearance for a while now. Especially in the team setting, it would be great to see how they try to deal with another manifestation.

And it also introduces plenty of possibilities for other movies down the line hopefully. It solves a lot of issues, from keeping the character fresh to having him speak in a way that will translate well on screen.

Yep. Whedon can count me out of the camp that just wants to see Hulk. The most endearing aspect of Bruce and Hulk is the psychological aspect of the characters is what draws to me the most. Of course, we got that in 03' and everyone in the world said how unfaithful it was the Hulk and how it sucked, so expect Hulk smash instead.

Ang just dropped the ball with the symbolism and abstractness. Even as a diehard fan, I wasn't feeling all the jelly-fish, psychedelic expressionism he was using. On top of that, most of it was done for far too long. The mirror scene between Banner/Hulk said more in a few seconds than all that other stuff combined. I just wish there was more of that as opposed to the trippy stuff...

 

[Spitfire]

Its nice to know that I'm not the only fan who wants to see both Banner and Hulk, and want to see a focus on substance (e.g. the psychological aspects) rather than smash. I watched EMH again recently and I loved the interactions between Banner and Hulk. I know transferring this to a movie may be tricky, but the short mirror scene in the 03 movie had such impact and showed it can be done.

Hulk has so much potential in terms of the complexity of his character (seeing grey Hulk would be a great way to show this) and his relationship with Banner and others. I loved his friendship with Hawkeye in EMH and how he appeared to respect this 'puny' guy with a bad attitude and great sense of humour (the scene by the lake where Clint threatens Hulk who laughs so hard he turns back into Banner is one of my favourites).

While Hulks power is supposed to define him, its the little things like his friendships which make him so unique.

 

[MbJ]

Hot Topic has pulped their Star Wars #1 variants with the alleged AOU spoiler and have now reprinted it without the ad in question.

 

[terry78]

I dunno who the **** to believe anymore. Somebody trying to throw me off the trail.

 

[tyr8nt93]

While the Ang movie has many flaws, providing depth to the characters definitely isn't one of them. I was a little disappointed when Whedon hinted in his recent interview that fans didn't really want to see Banner and only wanted to see Hulk (comparing the character to a werewolf). The psychological confrontation you describe above is what I love about the character and I want to see Hulk and Banner! I hope Whedon was referring to a blurring of the boundaries between the two personas so we get to see them both on screen together and interacting.

The second trailer has increased my enthusiasm for the Hulkbuster scene because the look on Starks face is pure hatred and anger. I think it is just two close friends having one almighty fight which inevitably brings out the worst of both men.

I am excited and nervous for the fight as well. I am a huge Science Bro person, especially since it's a friendship that I never really foresaw until the first Avengers. To see psychological tension is always fun, but damn it seems like this movie will ruin a lot of friendships (Tony Steve, Tony Bruce, etc). I guess while I'll enjoy the darker turn, I honestly am one of those people who would pay just to see the Avengers talking and interacting. I hope we see a little of it because I have a feeling that by the end of the movie, there won't be much chance.

And I hope Whedon doens't pressure himself into diminishing Bruce's role in the story or have directors take that cue. I always loved the psychological dilemma and it seemed that Whedon wanted to devote time for him. Did Whedon say that he shared his view on Hulk or that it was just his perception of general fan desire?

 

[Zoom]

Its nice to know that I'm not the only fan who wants to see both Banner and Hulk, and want to see a focus on substance (e.g. the psychological aspects) rather than smash. I watched EMH again recently and I loved the interactions between Banner and Hulk. I know transferring this to a movie may be tricky, but the short mirror scene in the 03 movie had such impact and showed it can be done.

Hulk has so much potential in terms of the complexity of his character (seeing grey Hulk would be a great way to show this) and his relationship with Banner and others. I loved his friendship with Hawkeye in EMH and how he appeared to respect this 'puny' guy with a bad attitude and great sense of humour (the scene by the lake where Clint threatens Hulk who laughs so hard he turns back into Banner is one of my favourites).

While Hulks power is supposed to define him, its the little things like his friendships which make him so unique.

Yeah. In the end, it's this character's complexity, with so much to be explored, that makes him my favorite.

 

[warcam]

Banner/Hulk and The Vision are probably the things I'm looking forward to the most in this film. At this point, I would be both shocked and disappointed if they DIDN"T explore the duality of Banner's and Hulk's conflicting personalities. It's been mentioned too many times in interviews....how Hulk is as afraid of Banner as Banner is afraid of Hulk. How would they know that unless it was incorporated in the film somehow?

This may be a weak comparison, but I'd be content if they took a page out of LXG with the way they portrayed the Jekyll/Hyde characters...maybe showing Banner walking past a mirror and seeing The Hulk's reflection, with the Hulk looking away in fear....disgust....something. Ideally, maybe something along the lines of the 'Married' episode from the TV series, with Banner confronting Hulk in his dreams, or under a SW spell...something.

 

[Sarg92]

Bruce Banner's Hulk-life balance has improved over time, "but it's still evolving," says Ruffalo. "I think he does feel more comfortable with himself and his relationship to Hulk, but that confidence definitely gets shaken during the movie."

The team has found a way to strategically deploy the Hulk, holding him back as a last resort "nuclear option" who doesn't get involved with fights unless absolutely necessary. "He's sort of left behind in waiting as the secret weapon, the nuclear bomb."

Though a Hulk solo movie is nowhere to be seen on Marvel's upcoming slate, there's a lot of ground Ruffalo wants to see covered with 'the other guy'.

"I feel like we haven't even scratched the surface with Hulk, as far as his character goes. The technology just hasn't completely been available, and I think we've sort of been ignorant about the approach, like, what can we do with the Hulk? Yeah, he's great and it's exciting when he freaks out and smashes, but there's a whole character there from the comics, who can talk and has a personality.

"Is it always just rage? I think there's a battle of identity going on between him and Banner, about establishing dominance, and what troubles Hulk in a very primal way is Banner, because he's the only thing that has any control over him. That sets up an interesting dynamic that hasn't been explored yet."

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/...ned-on-the-set-of-avengers-age-of-ultron.html

 

[Zoom]

Good stuff. He's the ''nuclear option'', the big gun; as it should be.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Jesus, Ruffalo gets it. Give us a ****in Hulk sequel, Marvel.

 

[warcam]

They will. It'll be called GOTG2.

 

[Zoom]

Jesus, Ruffalo gets it. Give us a ****in Hulk sequel, Marvel.

Seconded!

 

[A Necessary Evil]

They will. It'll be called GOTG2.

A full on Hulk sequel >>>>> Appearing in other films to avoid one. Besides, I actually never got the love for PH, it's okay and serviceable, but I don't get the massive popularity it got, and don't really want Hulk in space. But that's just me.

Seconded!

Smart guy.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Jesus, Ruffalo gets it. Give us a ****in Hulk sequel, Marvel.

I truly think something Planet Hulk-esque would kill it.

 

[Wildcard]

Again, I think there are a plethora of stories that should be explored before they ever attempt Planet Hulk. It's far too soon for that, imo. We haven't even gotten past seeing him be a "guy on the run avoiding the military" as far as his solo films are concerned.

Let's get more of his villains established first...guys like the Leader, Madman, Half-Life, Ravage, Flux, etc. Then we should be looking to a Planet Hulk / World War Hulk movie.

Just my own $0.02, though.

 

[CoherentChaos]

Again, I think there are a plethora of stories that should be explored before they ever attempt Planet Hulk. It's far too soon for that, imo. We haven't even gotten past seeing him be a "guy on the run avoiding the military" as far as his solo films are concerned.

Let's get more of his villains established first...guys like the Leader, Madman, Half-Life, Ravage, Flux, etc. Then we should be looking to a Planet Hulk / World War Hulk movie.

Just my own $0.02, though.

Absolutely agree.

While it may be possible that a Planet Hulk movie can be done well, even this soon in the franchise, it's just not the right time.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Again, I think there are a plethora of stories that should be explored before they ever attempt Planet Hulk. It's far too soon for that, imo. We haven't even gotten past seeing him be a "guy on the run avoiding the military" as far as his solo films are concerned.

Let's get more of his villains established first...guys like the Leader, Madman, Half-Life, Ravage, Flux, etc. Then we should be looking to a Planet Hulk / World War Hulk movie.

Just my own $0.02, though.

Yep.

 

[Venomfan]

Absolutely agree.

While it may be possible that a Planet Hulk movie can be done well, even this soon in the franchise, it's just not the right time.

you never know though, many were saying it would be too soon to do Civil War without developing Steve and Tony as best friends. Civil War happening after a few more movies of bro-ing together would be more effective/shocking for audiences

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I do feel it is a bit too soon, however Marvel has a plan, so I don't doubt how effective they'll make it.

 

[Lilbaz]

Yeah it is too soon. We have years and many films to go through before we even need to start looking at Planet Hulk.