Saw VI discussion thread

[StrainedEyes]

But can they REALLY continue the franchise respectably? With Saw VI, the contract will expire, and it will really be up to the writers at that point. I mean...so far, we have confirmation that only two long-term characters are alive (Hoffman and Jill) and then the possibility of Gordon. Either they bring in new people (and ruin it via Butterfly Effect 2, Starship Troopers 2, American Psycho 2, etc.) or they use the remaining characters they have to come to a close.

As LastSunrise here said, how amazing would it be if Hoffman and Jill ended up in the bathroom together as the last and final trap...and both die at the hands of the new Jigsaw killer, Dr. Lawrence Gordon. END. Credits w/ rock music (which they didn't have in Saw V).

I'd be all for something like that.

Does anyone know what happened with the lawsuit? Did it ever get settled?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I'd be all for something like that.

Does anyone know what happened with the lawsuit? Did it ever get settled?

Last I heard it was already settled and Cary Elwes said he holds not bitterness towards Lionsgate and the makers of SAW. And that he would love to return one day. He also stated he loved working on SAW.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I could actually see the series ending (atleast for now) with Gordon showing up to kill Hoffman and end Jigsaw's work...I'd find that much more likely than him continuing it himself.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I could actually see the series ending (atleast for now) with Gordon showing up to kill Hoffman and end Jigsaw's work...I'd find that much more likely than him continuing it himself.

I can see that happening too. I just can't see Jigsaw allowing Jill to burden herself with his work. He loved her greatly and it would be out of character for him to just burden her with his legacy. I'm guessing what he gave her was all the evidence that pertains to Hoffman's corruption through his career.

 

[Aniland]

Imagine how cool this ending would be. Like you said, Hoffman and Jill end up in the bathroom, and they can both easily be saved or killed. Then Gordon limps in (Saw music starts before that, showing all of the things Gordon helped with before we even see or hear his name/voice), then he drops two saws in the room, and says "Save yourselves", then sets a timer where the door will automatically close if they aren't out in time.

Not only will he have passed the "Save as I Save" test that Rigg clearly didn't understand, but it will show that Jigsaw's work will continue, and yet they won't have to make more movies because we know that we have somebody playing by the rules.

 

[I Am The Knight]

this movie will suck1

 

[Aniland]

Thank you for such wonderful insight.

 

[Maximus One]

Haha welcome to the boards Aniland theres haters a plenty here

 

[Aniland]

Here's the final installment, guys.


I'm going to please request...that you all show my Saw videos to anybody that you know who likes Saw. I really want a lot of feedback because I want to see how my ideas stand up when tested by many fans. Please help as much as you can. Thanks!

And tell me what you think of this new one ^_^

 

[bullets]

this movie will suck1

yeah but if they play the zepp tune at the end it will still rock .




Gordon has to come back , we won't let him die. I know they are saving his conclusion because they want to use it when the time is right .

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Here's the final installment, guys.


I'm going to please request...that you all show my Saw videos to anybody that you know who likes Saw. I really want a lot of feedback because I want to see how my ideas stand up when tested by many fans. Please help as much as you can. Thanks!

And tell me what you think of this new one ^_^

I really enjoyed your final installment of the analysis of Dr. Gordon being alive.

One of the things that did bother me was who managed to sedate Strahm and put him into the head trap? It couldn't have been Hoffman since he would've had to have been moving with ninja like precision and count on the fact that Strahm would go down that corridor.

Obviously Amanda was dead, Jigsaw was dead, and Jill was in the interrogation room. Unless Jill managed to teleport herself into the area in order to capture Strahm.

But in all honesty it's leaning towards an unknown accomplice or a known accomplice. Maybe it is Dr. Gordon. Overall I really enjoyed the thought, the intelligence, and the effort you put into the videos that actually brought some attention to the concepts and presented them in a thought provoking fashion.

But I definitely believe it was someone else in the pig mask waiting for Strahm to come their way.

 

[Aniland]

Thanks LastSunrise. I'm glad that you enjoyed the videos ^_^

The way I see it...if they bring in an unknown character as the accomplice, that would just make the series ****. It would make the first five movies pointless. That's the lovely charm of having Gordon as the final accomplice: he'll have been with us for the whole series, and he'll kick ass in his reappearance.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Thanks LastSunrise. I'm glad that you enjoyed the videos ^_^

The way I see it...if they bring in an unknown character as the accomplice, that would just make the series ****. It would make the first five movies pointless. That's the lovely charm of having Gordon as the final accomplice: he'll have been with us for the whole series, and he'll kick ass in his reappearance.

I definitely believe fans and non-fans are just aching for a reappearance. We can't allow our hopes get high because we could be disappointed. However, I do believe he'll be seen in some fashion in the sixth film.

The way I envisioned it is the way you described it as well. Maybe have Jill reveal herself the one testing Hoffman and a figure in a pig mask sedates her in which she and Hoffman wake up shackled in the bathroom. Hoffman finds the tape recorder with them. A familiar voice starts speaking to them and it starts showing flashbacks of Gordon sawing his foot off, crawling out of the bathroom, and Jigsaw offering him a choice after he leaves the bathroom as well.

A hooded figure comes into the picture holding the door in which Gordon's face is revealed and he says "Game Over". He slams the door shut and limps away as Hoffman is heard screaming for him to release him and everything.

 

[Aniland]

The way I see it, I'll get my hopes up as much as I can, mainly because I know that if Gordon isn't the accomplice, then the Saw franchise really dug itself into a gigantic hotel of plotholes that no other movie has ever done (well, maybe The Butterfly Effect, but...), so I'm going to stick to the Gordon accomplice belief. I can't imagine them waiting five movies just to show him deceased.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

The way I see it, I'll get my hopes up as much as I can, mainly because I know that if Gordon isn't the accomplice, then the Saw franchise really dug itself into a gigantic hotel of plotholes that no other movie has ever done (well, maybe The Butterfly Effect, but...), so I'm going to stick to the Gordon accomplice belief. I can't imagine them waiting five movies just to show him deceased.

I definitely agree with you. It would be a major disappointment for them to just show him dead in the sixth film. I do believe if he's involved it's going to be in a surprise fashion that none of us will expect honestly.

Something tells me that the sixth film is going to tie up every loose end and it will end it to where they can't/won't continue the franchise.

 

[Aniland]

Yeah. As Jigsaw said, all of the pieces are going to fit together.

 

[nocomics]

The way I see it, I'll get my hopes up as much as I can, mainly because I know that if Gordon isn't the accomplice, then the Saw franchise really dug itself into a gigantic hotel of plotholes that no other movie has ever done (well, maybe The Butterfly Effect, but...), so I'm going to stick to the Gordon accomplice belief. I can't imagine them waiting five movies just to show him deceased.

I personally don't see the issue of Dr.Gordon being a gigantic plot hole. I think it all stems that people don't like story arcs of main characters left undone. I have mixed views of them leaving Gordon story unfinished,sometimes movies like to leave things open just for the sake of it. Sometimes they like to leave it open incase they wanna comeback to it,so I dont know the real motive of Lionsgate on Dr.Gordon. I definately like to hear what the honest truth is about that. They can say they had it planned all along,or is it the feedback from fans that they need to finish that story??
No matter how it goes down I still would like to see them finish it,but they've done soo much flashbacks portraying Amanda/Hoffman as accomplices its gonna be tricky to get Dr.Gordon in the story.
Last on Dr.Gordon, I like to know what time frame they(actor/company) kissed and made up on the contract? I think might have had something to do with them not finishing his story????

 

[AlteredEgo]

I personally don't see the issue of Dr.Gordon being a gigantic plot hole. I think it all stems that people don't like story arcs of main characters left undone. I have mixed views of them leaving Gordon story unfinished,sometimes movies like to leave things open just for the sake of it. Sometimes they like to leave it open incase they wanna comeback to it,so I dont know the real motive of Lionsgate on Dr.Gordon. I definately like to hear what the honest truth is about that. They can say they had it planned all along,or is it the feedback from fans that they need to finish that story??
No matter how it goes down I still would like to see them finish it,but they've done soo much flashbacks portraying Amanda/Hoffman as accomplices its gonna be tricky to get Dr.Gordon in the story.
Last on Dr.Gordon, I like to know what time frame they(actor/company) kissed and made up on the contract? I think might have had something to do with them not finishing his story????

word yo.

 

[nocomics]

Now banking on Lionsgate is gonna do another series of Saw movies I could honestly believe they will throw Hoffman/Jill in a trap and then bam there is Dr.Gordon and movie just ends with Gordon saying GAME OVER!!!

*or the could just do that ending just to appease fans,and give people something to talk about....like an anti-climatic ending tye deal..got a year though to hear rumors and speculations..

 

[The Dark Defender]

Thank you for such wonderful insight.

About as much as most SAW haters provide.

I'd love VI to be the big epic finale to the saga, but I doubt it. They're already talking about going up to nine, and it's by far LG biggest property.

I'd like to see Gordon, but I don't see it as a plot hole if he doesn't.

 

[nocomics]

About as much as most SAW haters provide.

I'd love VI to be the big epic finale to the saga, but I doubt it. They're already talking about going up to nine, and it's by far LG biggest property.

I'd like to see Gordon, but I don't see it as a plot hole if he doesn't.

Whether they goto 9 or not thats still up in the air. If they do they need to at least take a year off of doing them to let ppl get a breather from these films..Plus they really need rethink the whole idea,they just can't keep rehashing the story lines again,and again.

 

[Aniland]

I sure hope they don't go up to 9. That would be ridiculous. There's only two characters left alive for sure, and then Gordon. How could they possibly keep going?

 

[The Dark Defender]

Whether they goto 9 or not thats still up in the air. If they do they need to at least take a year off of doing them to let ppl get a breather from these films..Plus they really need rethink the whole idea,they just can't keep rehashing the story lines again,and again.

I'm wholeheartedly against them taking a year off now, if they want to after six that'd be fine (I'd prefer they take all years after next year off actually, atleast until the inevitable remake).
Thus far, I don't any of the films to be rehashes at all. Even IV, my least favorite by far, is not a rehash.

They already have a release date set for next October anyway

 

[StrainedEyes]

I'm wholeheartedly against them taking a year off now, if they want to after six that'd be fine (I'd prefer they take all years after next year off actually, atleast until the inevitable remake).
Thus far, I don't any of the films to be rehashes at all. Even IV, my least favorite by far, is not a rehash.

They already have a release date set for next October anyway

He specifically said he was talking about 7-9, that if they were to continue after 6 they should take a year off.

 

[AlteredEgo]

so, i know this board loves them some gordon. but let's say they do recast, who would you pick? i ask this because i had HBO on in the background and they were playing Dead Silence (by Saw director James Wan), and thought Ryan Kwanten, from Dead Silence and True Blood, could play a good Gordon. he looks a little younger, but dirty him up a bit, age him, nothing a little make-up cant fix.