The Dark Knight Script Treatment Summary?

[Miranda Fox]

Okay, please don't throw rocks at me for posting this. The only reason I'm giving this it's own thread is because I heard almost the same thing from somebody else who is definitely not the same person who posted this (there are also some differences in the storyline.)

Given the massive differences between wording and such, I think this could be true. The first guy who posted a summary of the scriptment shared additional details not mentioned by this person, so if you wanna hear them, I'll tell you what I remember. His was more detailed. IF it's true.

Anyway:

Well, Troy Anderson has come through. After massive dives into the Batcave, he's got something that'll make you fanboys **** your pants.

Somehow, the son of a ***** got his hands on a floating preliminary SCRIPT TREATMENT for the upcoming BATMAN sequel that Nolan and gang will make for 2008.

Sure its only 4 pages, but I'll share he described to me. It's nothing substantial, but thanks would be appreciated to Mr. Anderson busting his balls in getting us fans some good info.

Alright, what did Troy describe to me?

*Katie Holmes' character is ABSENT from the treatment. In other words, Mrs. Tom Cruise aint coming back. No duh, right?

*Cilliam Murphy returns as Scarecrow, but apparently in a cameo-like part. Where? rebuilt Arkham Asylum, or as Troy says the script describe it, "The House that Batman built".
Apparently, Carmine Falcone(Wilkinson) also has a cameo-that-could-get-axed part as well.

*Joker himself(recently casted with Heath Ledger) begins his tale at the beginning of the movie, as a hood fighting in the gang wars of Gotham City, until he is fatally wounded, then re-play ending scene of BEGINS and cue a title card, simply stating: "Some Time Later..."

*After a massive house-cleaning of Gotham City's bureaucracy after the disaster with Ra's Al Ghul, a new District Attorney has come into town, as described as an "Elliot Ness-esque" type, with the intention of filling in the city's bureaucratical seats with worthy, clean "go-getters". Of course, this is HARVEY DENT. (Guy Pearce dammit!)

*hard-boiled copper Jim Gordon(Oldman) rises through the police ranks.

*Crime still plays a massive role in the storyline.

*Alfred will have a "bigger" role.

This **** is vague folks, but its what I found so far. Anyway, more goods to come whenever they may come.

http://gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=140859&page=1&fpart=3&PHPSESSID=69e20d17f5a3100a8921d261c46db694

Because I'm a dolt and missed this the first time:

BOF, http://www.batman-on-film.com, reported about the Penguin ACTUALLY being in the sequel, but in that of a British gangster mold that wants to take on the city. Of course, in that treatment I told you all about the other day, there was NO mention of the Beaked Wonder in there. What gives?

I asked Troy after he told me the news of a certain actor that's rumored(and that's all) to play Penguin, well, is Penguin really in the sequel or what?

He shrugged, and went back to cleaning up guano from the Batcave. If he doesn't hassle his ass enough, he'll be replaced by an illegal alien. Mr. Wayne doesn't want lazy workers!

More Edits: Okay, in the interest of avoiding confusion - here's why this vague info was interesting enough to post: There was someone calling himself QTN who claims he knew what happened in the treatment. He also claimed this information was sent to AICN and rejected. He went to IMDB and vented and shared some details. This was several months after the above posts.

Yes, IMDB is the definition of unreliable and I didn't think anything of it until...well, I found that post. QTN basically posted similar (not the same) info on IMDB but with more detail and some omissions (like a Dent description) and a glaring contradiction.

I'll give you what I remember from what he said:

The Joker's backstory is a little more complex than Troy describes: Apparently, the Joker is killed in a set-up by Falcone (he IS a gangster, supposedly although no name is given for him) and the hitmen sent to kill him dump his body in the chemicals to hide it. Of course, Mister J ain't dead and he's PISSED at Falcone and starts knocking off his men in more and more insane ways ala the Laughing Fish and Five Way Revenge.

There is no Salvatore Maroni nor Roman Sionis.

Now, here's where these two differ wildly - there IS a Penguin and he strikes a sort of deal with Joker (NOT a partnership, more like something akin to Ra's/Scarcrow. Mutually beneficial) to help eliminate the mobsters and get control of the city. I think Joker screws Penguin over big time but I might be thinking of something else.

Harvey Bullock is in it.

Remember the Bat-Cycle rumours from before? Well, this guy said Joker badly damages the Tumbler (and by that I mean, REALLY badly. He burns an enormous hole in it with acid) which may be why Bats needs alternative transport. Their second battle serves as the film's climax but no details given other than it involved the previous rumoured tennement (I THINK.)

I'm probably forgetting stuff - there's a lot more differences than I remember - but both mention details like the Scarecrow's cameo. Hmm.

Alfred's expanded role involves overseeing the reconstruction of Wayne Manor. It's finished at the end of the film. I think there maybe a metaphor in there.

Timeline wise, Troy came first as I seem to recall Q posting his info (which was more detailed) in Aug/Sep time.

The reason I decided to share this was because they are not exactly the same. Which is why I'm even going to entertain the idea this might be true.

Some stuff I missed off and/or didn't catch before - the Scarecrow cameo mentioned by Troy (both of them quoted the scriptment as saying it was the 'house that Batman built. Hmm) was explained by Q as being a Silence of the Lambs-like sequence where Gordon and Bats visited him for some insight into the Joker.

Q never mentioned the replay of the end of BB but both mention the Some Time Later title card. Nor did he mention the 'house cleaning' described by Troy.

*

Is any of it real? I don't know. Hence this thread.

 

[StorminNorman]

First time I have heard that, it is every nice besides that Joker backstory part.

 

[Boom]

I don't know what to think. I mean, it's pretty damn vague. It's something somebody could have easily made up.

Regardless, nothing in there raises red flags for me. The opening could be cool.

 

[Ronny Shade]

:hm:

 

[Miranda Fox]

I don't know what to think. I mean, it's pretty damn vague. It's something somebody could have easily made up.

Regardless, nothing in there raises red flags for me. The opening could be cool.

*nods* the guy who posted a similar one before had FAR more detail.

I'll give you what I remember from what he said:

The Joker's backstory is a little more complex than Troy describes: Apparently, the Joker is killed in a set-up by Falcone (he IS a gangster, supposedly although no name is given for him) and the hitmen sent to kill him dump his body in the chemicals to hide it. Of course, Mister J ain't dead and he's PISSED at Falcone and starts knocking off his men in more and more insane ways ala the Laughing Fish and Five Way Revenge.

There is no Salvatore Maroni nor Roman Sionis.

Now, here's where these two differ wildly - there IS a Penguin and he strikes a sort of deal with Joker (NOT a partnership, more like something akin to Ra's/Scarcrow. Mutually beneficial) to help eliminate the mobsters and get control of the city. I think Joker screws Penguin over big time but I might be thinking of something else.

Harvey Bullock is in it.

Remember the Bat-Cycle rumours from before? Well, this guy said Joker badly damages the Tumbler (and by that I mean, REALLY badly. He burns an enormous hole in it with acid) which may be why Bats needs alternative transport. Their second battle serves as the film's climax but no details given other than it involved the previous rumoured tennement (I THINK.)

I'm probably forgetting stuff - there's a lot more differences than I remember - but both mention details like the Scarecrow's cameo. Hmm.

A LOT of this does tally with things we've heard so...you never know. The real shame here is the original guy got the hell flamed out of him because no one believed him. Moriarty even banned him from AICN because he played hell when Harry didn't post the review of the scriptment he sent in.

 

[comic_guy04]

Joker is fatally wounded, but how is he fatally wounded I wonder. Better be a chemical bleaching and not just a bullet across the cheeks.

 

[StorminNorman]

*nods* the guy who posted a similar one before had FAR more detail.

where did he post that?

 

[Cinemaman]

If that's true, then I am happy with everything what I read (especially with how they decided to tell Joker's backstory before the whole stuff begins).

But honestly I have doubts.

 

[Miranda Fox]

where did he post that?

IMDB, hence why everybody thought he was lying. Yeah, I know. I didn't believe him either. It just sounded like really good fanfic. But now there's this Troy person whose posted similar plot points from the scriptment. I just noticed the Dent descrip and that was definitely not present from the IMDB board. He did supposedly send a review to AICN which they never posted. He got angry and was banned from the Talkbacks.

It's too weird.

I edited my other post with what I could remember from his posts.

 

[Rynan]

Joker is fatally wounded, but how is he fatally wounded I wonder. Better be a chemical bleaching and not just a bullet across the cheeks.

Maybe The Joker will have dextrocardia(where the heart is postioned in the right side of the body). Hitman shoots him where he thinks the heart is and, thinking he's a dead man, desposes of the body in chemicals. The Joker, of course, survives.

A similar thing happend to the James Bond villain Dr. No.

I love this gangster backstory idea. I really hope it isn't B.S.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Maybe The Joker will have dextrocardia(where the heart is postioned in the right side of the body). Hitman shoots him where he thinks the heart is and thinking he's a dead man, desposes of the body in chemicals. The Joker, of course, survives.

A similar thing happend to the James Bond villain Dr. No.

I love this gangster backstory idea. I really hope it isn't B.S.

*nods* I really liked it too, but I just thought it was creative fanfiction. It keeps everything completely vague while still explaining WHY he looks the way he does.

 

[Saint]

Those descriptions are pretty neat. Wonder if they'll turn out to be accurate.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Those descriptions are pretty neat. Wonder if they'll turn out to be accurate.

I really hope so.

 

[comic_guy04]

I like how they describe Dent as an elliot ness -esque person. I love that movie "The Untouchables".

 

[Rynan]

I hope it doesn't turn out fanfiction. Some it is too good to be made up.

 

[Crooklyn]

The Joker's backstory is a little more complex than Troy describes: Apparently, the Joker is killed in a set-up by Falcone (he IS a gangster, supposedly although no name is given for him) and the hitmen sent to kill him dump his body in the chemicals to hide it. Of course, Mister J ain't dead and he's PISSED at Falcone and starts knocking off his men in more and more insane ways ala the Laughing Fish and Five Way Revenge.

I must admit, that ain't a bad way of explaining Joker at all. As long as he's still relatively unidentifiable in his pre-Joker form, that'd be great. Adds a nice twist to the chemical origin and also pays homage to the classic Joker stories.

 

[Miranda Fox]

I hope it doesn't turn out fanfiction. Some it is too good to be made up.

If it's made up, they did a hell of a job. It really does sound awesome. I did wonder if maybe the Troy guy just read the first guy's stuff from IMDB, but that Dent description was not there on the original summary. Definitely not.

I must admit, that ain't a bad way of explaining Joker at all. As long as he's still relatively unidentifiable in his pre-Joker form, that'd be great. Adds a nice twist to the chemical origin and also pays homage to the classic Joker stories.

I agree. If that really is how the Joker is handled, I'll die of happiness.

 

[Crooklyn]

Well that would suck...you'd miss the rest of the film.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I could get with this Joker Origin

 

[StorminNorman]

*nods* the guy who posted a similar one before had FAR more detail.

I'll give you what I remember from what he said:

The Joker's backstory is a little more complex than Troy describes: Apparently, the Joker is killed in a set-up by Falcone (he IS a gangster, supposedly although no name is given for him) and the hitmen sent to kill him dump his body in the chemicals to hide it. Of course, Mister J ain't dead and he's PISSED at Falcone and starts knocking off his men in more and more insane ways ala the Laughing Fish and Five Way Revenge.

There is no Salvatore Maroni nor Roman Sionis.

Now, here's where these two differ wildly - there IS a Penguin and he strikes a sort of deal with Joker (NOT a partnership, more like something akin to Ra's/Scarcrow. Mutually beneficial) to help eliminate the mobsters and get control of the city. I think Joker screws Penguin over big time but I might be thinking of something else.

Harvey Bullock is in it.

Remember the Bat-Cycle rumours from before? Well, this guy said Joker badly damages the Tumbler (and by that I mean, REALLY badly. He burns an enormous hole in it with acid) which may be why Bats needs alternative transport. Their second battle serves as the film's climax but no details given other than it involved the previous rumoured tennement (I THINK.)

I'm probably forgetting stuff - there's a lot more differences than I remember - but both mention details like the Scarecrow's cameo. Hmm.

A LOT of this does tally with things we've heard so...you never know. The real shame here is the original guy got the hell flamed out of him because no one believed him. Moriarty even banned him from AICN because he played hell when Harry didn't post the review of the scriptment he sent in.

The way the Joker's origin is stated in here makes it work for me.

I hope this is real

 

[Miranda Fox]

Well that would suck...you'd miss the rest of the film.

LOL. But I'd be happy! That's what is important.

 

[Rynan]

Harvey "Elliot Ness" Dent, Hitmen, Batman vs. The Joker climax, potential BS...

I hope your happy Miranda Fox, I'm offically going insane about this.

 

[Crooklyn]

The fact that this was on IMDB puts a serious damper on things. I think the only reason we're holding out hope is because the treatment sounds damn good. Otherwise, this would've been buried quick.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I still think the Joker's origin should be the mystery they try to unlock over the next 2 films.

 

[Miranda Fox]

The fact that this was on IMDB puts a serious damper on things. I think the only reason we're holding out hope is because the treatment sounds damn good. Otherwise, this would've been buried quick.

*nods* the only reason I gave it the time of day originally was because I thought the ideas sounded good.

But, Troy just backed up a lot of what he said so...either this is the same person (and, trust me on this, they do not sound remotely the same) or they've read the same thing.

I swear, if this does turn out to be legit I'll never laugh at anyone for posting IMDB info again. Unless it's BS like that 'Nolan quit' stuff. Because that was just stupid.

Harvey "Elliot Ness" Dent, Hitmen, Batman vs. The Joker climax, potential BS...

I hope your happy Miranda Fox, I'm offically going insane about this.

Heh, my work here is done!