Captivated said:
Yeah
true
but all too often artists will use that line to try to justify pure-D crap.
Look, I don't want to jump in on your argument, but I can't help but say something after a line like that
Being a big Ramos fan, I can easily see Dangerous' side. You see, there's nothing wrong with saying, 'its not my thing.' Shinlyle made a really good example of saying a point without insulting an entire art form or people's tastes.
I'm not saying that you went over the top, or you're a major a-hole, all I'm saying is that when a lot of people talk about Ramos, they'll use comments like the one used above. While we can like the art, as well as most other ones that mainstream people like, we're made to feel like we don't know what we're talking about by people whose tastes lie on the more mainstream side.
While I actually can't defend him by jumping the gun on you, (I actually felt his comment was more in jest, thus the 'spikey' phrasing,) I can understand his point. When people discuss art on these forums, it does tend to be fairly mature. But when graff style art comes into play, there's a complete loss of respect. We're made to feel stupid.
My company which I direct works with a lot of graff artists, who came out of fine art educations. Yet, there's still this stigma. We were actually in newspapers for our support of graff art. My live in girlfriends brother gave up his art career 'cause he got fed up with people's views about his 'unique,' (basically graff, urban, cutting edge,) style of art when he was in University. My girlfirend still gets upset when she thinks about it.
There's a stigma that comics are made for kids, or weirdo's, or people who have no life. Well, a lot of people into comic make us feel like we're un educated morons for liking this style of art.
I know I've totally gone on, but I'm just trying to make you understand why some of us just get fed up and just make a nasty comment back. What makes it worse, people who like artists like Ramos tend to just leave these forums, and go talk art on hip hop forums, (which is CRAP trying to talk art with some of those people,) so we don't have many people on our side here. Yet, lots of people will always buy these comics with 'graff,' style art. Meaning, the haters will still hate, and a group of us here will always get it from every angle
Seriously!?? Well, you just blew my example... I don't LIKE Picasso at all, I just appreciate that he is talented. It was just an extreme example, but I should have said, "someone like Picasso" (*cough* Pat Lee *cough*).
