Seven Dead in Drive-By Shooting Near UC Santa Barbara

[Thundercrack85]

I still think every school and college should have armed (and fully vested) security and X-Ray machines.

While we're at it, let's give them all TSA agents, and those machines that cause cancer.

 

[Feenix]

I still think every school and college should have armed (and fully vested) security and X-Ray machines.

Yeah, I don't see anything going wrong with that idea

 

[Spider-X]

Great eye opening article about this horrible event:

Elliot Rodger Was a Product of America's Gun Culture

Try reading all the way through before making snap judgements about what's being said, please.

Also, I agree with the point of not giving this sick kid a bunch of attention. Obviously this act should not be glorified by any means...but this event is the aftermath of several ills that are effecting this country of ours and they're not being handled very well by our leaders, so it's worth dissecting in the right context.

 

[BestGirl]

I think psychological exams ought to be administered to anyone who wants to buy a gun.

 

[Thundercrack85]

To be fair, I don't really see this as such a gun issue. He stabbed three of his victims, and he could have just run down the others.

 

[Alex_Spider]

To be fair, I don't really see this as such a gun issue. He stabbed three of his victims, and he could have just run down the others.

Did he stab them from the back or while sleeping? He doesn't seem like he had the physical power to stab them so easily. But then again, I have never confronted a man with a knife. I guess even if he was more skinny and weaker than me, he could still hurt me, if he wanted to.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Some reports are saying he used a machete and a hammer...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...to-murder-house-mates-in-killing-chamber.html

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Study says materialistic people are less happy.

People who display materialistic values tend to be seen by others as having negative personality traits like narcissism and shallowness, said Howell, who has contributed to other studies linking experiential purchases with happiness. He is also the co-founder of BeyondThePurchase.Org, which advises consumers on happiness-maximizing purchases.

In fact, according to a personality scale known as the Experiential Buying Tendency Scale (developed in part by Howell), materialistic personality types do exhibit increased neuroticism, poorer interpersonal relationships and less empathy than non-materialists. Oh, and a "Machiavellian personality profile," characterized by "envy, possessiveness, nongenerosity, and the pursuit of extrinsic rather than intrinsic goals." So there you go.

For materialists, it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. While material purchases might make them feel happier, they can’t fully enjoy their material spoils because they feel judged. In contrast, Howell said, an experiential purchase can’t make a materialist any happier, because “they’re trying to impress others, and it doesn’t meet their psychological needs.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...y_n_5379825.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

 

[Ant-manic]

Study says materialistic people are less happy.

would hoarders be considered materialistic? because they always look miserable.

 

[Ant-manic]

I still think every school and college should have armed (and fully vested) security and X-Ray machines.

that doesn't really prevent a drive-by shooting. maybe they should just hand all of the students bullet proof vests and guns.

 

[Ant-manic]

Great eye opening article about this horrible event:

Elliot Rodger Was a Product of America's Gun Culture

Try reading all the way through before making snap judgements about what's being said, please.

Also, I agree with the point of not giving this sick kid a bunch of attention.

i think it'd be more of a deterent to simply give the kid negative attention. and by that i mean to shame the **** out of him. they could have his parents reveal his most embarrassing secrets on air. maybe show his underwear with the streaks on it. or have the women he struck out with explain what a creepy loser he was. wouldn't that keep most people from copying him?

 

[zryson]

When it comes to weapons, there are too many of them and too often we see shootings like this happen. But all too often what is missing is a debate about gun control. So shootings like this will just keep happening.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

When it comes to weapons, there are too many of them and too often we see shootings like this happen. But all too often what is missing is a debate about gun control. So shootings like this will just keep happening.

What do mean? I don't know what you're watching, but gun control comes up anytime a shooting happens. In this case, I don't think it should dominate the conversation since he also stabbed 3 people to death and ran multiple people over with his car. A bigger issue is dealing with the mental health aspect of the crime. Seems in almost all mass casualty events, the instrument of destruction (typically guns) is what's discussed but the personal issues of the perpetrator is left untouched.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

i think it'd be more of a deterent to simply give the kid negative attention. and by that i mean to shame the **** out of him. they could have his parents reveal his most embarrassing secrets on air. maybe show his underwear with the streaks on it. or have the women he struck out with explain what a creepy loser he was. wouldn't that keep most people from copying him?

I can get behind this. Interview people who hate him and let them talk about how pathetic he was. Have him only referred to as "the murderer" because his name deserves no recognition.

In fact, his headstone should only say "Murderer" on it and then have a urinal that drains into his casket.

 

[Ant-manic]

I can get behind this. Interview people who hate him and let them talk about how pathetic he was. Have him only referred to as "the murderer" because his name deserves no recognition.

In fact, his headstone should only say "Murderer" on it and then have a urinal that drains into his casket.

they really should bury all of the mass murderers in the same graveyard; maybe just one big pee-soaked hole.

 

[Tempest]

Great eye opening article about this horrible event:

Elliot Rodger Was a Product of America's Gun Culture

Try reading all the way through before making snap judgements about what's being said, please.

Also, I agree with the point of not giving this sick kid a bunch of attention. Obviously this act should not be glorified by any means...but this event is the aftermath of several ills that are effecting this country of ours and they're not being handled very well by our leaders, so it's worth dissecting in the right context.

I don't really think that guns are the problem here. The first murders weren't committed with a gun. That, more than anything else, says a lot about the mindset of this guy. He wanted to kill, and he wanted his victims to suffer.

And I don't think that this guy was insane either. That implies that he couldn't tell the difference between right and wrong. I think he was aware that the actions he wanted to take were wrong. He just didn't care.

 

[PyroChamber]

i think it'd be more of a deterent to simply give the kid negative attention. and by that i mean to shame the **** out of him. they could have his parents reveal his most embarrassing secrets on air. maybe show his underwear with the streaks on it. or have the women he struck out with explain what a creepy loser he was. wouldn't that keep most people from copying him?

I was watching Inside Edition and they talked about how in his manifesto he mentions a girl he had a crush on in grade school and how her rejecting him is one of the reasons he became the person he was.

And the statement they got from the girl was that she didn't even know him, she said that she saw him around but thought he was odd and kind of creepy.

 

[DA_Champion]

I was watching Inside Edition and they talked about how in his manifesto he mentions a girl he had a crush on in grade school and how her rejecting him is one of the reasons he became the person he was.

And the statement they got from the girl was that she didn't even know him, she said that she saw him around but thought he was odd and kind of creepy.

As far as I can tell, no woman ever rejected him.

 

[Tempest]

As far as I can tell, no woman ever rejected him.

What's so terrifying about this guy is that he felt that he was owed a woman. Not as a partner, or lifemate, but as a symbol of his status. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had actually managed to ask someone out, and she said yes? She would have been dead the instant she did something that he would have viewed as a rejection.

And I don't get how women rejecting him can be a 'source' for what happened. How about the idea that he was a jerk, and decided to kill? Why is it landing in the lap of girls who didn't know him?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Rejection can be subtle.

You can glance at 300 women in a month and zero glance back.

While you didn't hit on these women they still had a way of saying "no thank you".

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

What's so terrifying about this guy is that he felt that he was owed a woman. Not as a partner, or lifemate, but as a symbol of his status. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had actually managed to ask someone out, and she said yes? She would have been dead the instant she did something that he would have viewed as a rejection.

And I don't get how women rejecting him can be a 'source' for what happened. How about the idea that he was a jerk, and decided to kill? Why is it landing in the lap of girls who didn't know him?

Only a moron would blame the women who ignored him.

Those women deserve a medal for not rewarding a narcissistic gas bag with attention and sex.

 

[DA_Champion]

What's so terrifying about this guy is that he felt that he was owed a woman. Not as a partner, or lifemate, but as a symbol of his status. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had actually managed to ask someone out, and she said yes? She would have been dead the instant she did something that he would have viewed as a rejection.

And I don't get how women rejecting him can be a 'source' for what happened. How about the idea that he was a jerk, and decided to kill? Why is it landing in the lap of girls who didn't know him?

It's a lazy interpretation. When people don't have all the facts they fill-in-the-blanks using common cultural memes. In this case, the common cultural meme is of a man bitter because women always reject him. It's totally inaccurate.

 

[DA_Champion]

Rejection can be subtle.

You can glance at 300 women in a month and zero glance back.

While you didn't hit on these women they still had a way of saying "no thank you".

In his manifesto, he discusses meeting a woman therapist in her 20s, and he writes that it was the first time in his life that he had spoken to a hot blonde.

 

[PyroChamber]

I'm kind of wondering, did this kid ever really try to talk to a female? It almost seems to me that this kid didn't even try and just automatically thought women didn't like him.

 

[Tempest]

I'm kind of wondering, did this kid ever really try to talk to a female? It almost seems to me that this kid didn't even try and just automatically thought women didn't like him.

It doesn't appear that he talked to women. But it's still not his fault, since women were supposed to automatically want him. Supposedly he was a member of the MRA, an organisation that doesn't really bother to try to hide their misogyny.