Sex with Babysitter

[Catman]

I definitely agree that legally, a 14 year old is still a child.

Legally a 14-year-old isn't a child. He or she is a minor. It's not the same thing. Legally, 17-year-olds are minors but would you really call a 17-year-old a child?

Catman, what if this kid was your daughter at 14 having sex with a 28 year old man?

That dude would have my boot up his butt. But if my 14-year-old son had sex with a 28-year-old woman I'd give him a high-five.

 

[The Squirrel]

That dude would have my boot up his butt. But if my 14-year-old son had sex with a 28-year-old woman I'd give him a high-five.

And that's the disgusting, double standard in this country, imo.

 

[SsM]

And that's the double standard in this country that is wrong, imo.

Aren't ALL double standards wrong???

 

[AndThePickles]

That dude would have my boot up his butt. But if my 14-year-old son had sex with a 28-year-old woman I'd give him a high-five.

So you're cool with being a hypocrite? Dead serious.

This boy wasn't even responsible enough to be able to stay at home without a babysitter, yet he should be having sex with this 28 year old woman? What if this woman became pregnant? Is he responsible enough to become a father? To work full time to support his child?

 

[The Squirrel]

Aren't ALL double standards wrong???

Just trying to get my point across. I can reword it.

 

[Catman]

So you're cool with being a hypocrite? Dead serious.

In all serious-ness, Pickles, I don't approve of adults having sex with 14-year-olds. 16. 17. I can understand. But 14? That's kinda messed up.

The argument earlier was whether or not the kid would be messed up. I think he'll be fine.

Then you brought up the whole kid thing. 14-year-olds aren't kids. They're teens. Different thing.

This boy wasn't even responsible enough to be able to stay at home without a babysitter

Actually, earlier in the thread we realized that the article made a mistake. She's the babysitter of his siblings not him.

What if this woman became pregnant? Is he responsible enough to become a father? To work full time to support his child?

It's a pointless argument because he could easily get a 14-year-old pregnant. So, now we're not even discussing sex between minors and adults. It's just sex in general. Plus, it's something that varies from person to person. There's 30-year-olds who aren't responsible even to be parents. So, you're heading into a totally different subject.

 

[TheAlmightyFuzz]

Legally a 14-year-old isn't a child. He or she is a minor. It's not the same thing. Legally, 17-year-olds are minors but would you really call a 17-year-old a child?



That dude would have my boot up his butt. But if my 14-year-old son had sex with a 28-year-old woman I'd give him a high-five.

It'd likely be you who got the boot up the ass, and you probably will have deserved it.

 

[AndThePickles]

In all serious-ness, Pickles, I don't approve of adults having sex with 14-year-olds. 16. 17. I can understand. But 14? That's kinda messed up.

Well well well, I'm glad you feel that way.

The argument earlier was whether or not the kid would be messed up. I think he'll be fine.

I never got involved in that one.

Then you brought up the whole kid thing. 14-year-olds aren't kids. They're teens. Different thing.

Oy, that's such a nit-picky thing to choose to argue with me about, though. I really don't care whether he's labeled a child or a teen, 'cause I just think he's too young to be having sex with that grown ass woman, period.

Actually, earlier in the thread we realized that the article made a mistake. She's the babysitter of his siblings not him.

Ah ha, my mistake.

It's a pointless argument because he could easily get a 14-year-old pregnant. So, now we're not even discussing sex between minors and adults. It's just sex in general. Plus, it's something that varies from person to person. There's 30-year-olds who aren't responsible even to be parents. So, you're heading into a totally different subject.

As different a subject as whether a 14 year old is a child or a teen? The fact that he could easily get another 14 year old pregnant is one of the reasons why I don't think kids...pardon me, people , that age are mature enough to be having sex at all. I think if anyone is having sex, they should be mature enough to deal with any consequences. But that's a different topic for a different thread, really.

 

[knowsbleed]

I'm not even mature enough to deal with any sexual consequences. What more a 14 year old.

 

[DBella]

In all serious-ness, Pickles, I don't approve of adults having sex with 14-year-olds. 16. 17. I can understand. But 14? That's kinda messed up.

You don't? I guess you're not the one who said that as long as the kid consents, it's okay?

The argument earlier was whether or not the kid would be messed up. I think he'll be fine.

With regards to that, I don't think no one can know for sure. The same event have different effects on different people.

Then you brought up the whole kid thing. 14-year-olds aren't kids. They're teens. Different thing.

Child, adolescent, teenager... all minors under the law. As someone stated earlier, if you want the definition of 'minors' to change, to exclude teenagers up to the age of 17, write to your congressman and make that petition. Pedos would be very happy.

Actually, earlier in the thread we realized that the article made a mistake. She's the babysitter of his siblings not him.

Regardless whose babysitter she was just having her in the house to babysit his siblings tells me that he's not even responsible enough to take babysit his siblings while his parents were out. I would think 14-year-olds should be able to handle the responsibility of babysitting their younger siblings.

It's a pointless argument because he could easily get a 14-year-old pregnant. So, now we're not even discussing sex between minors and adults. It's just sex in general. Plus, it's something that varies from person to person. There's 30-year-olds who aren't responsible even to be parents. So, you're heading into a totally different subject.

And she could be one of those adults. Imagine her having a child with him. Both equally immature and equally irresponsible. O the horror! Children/Adolescent need to be protected from irresponsible adults who break the law just because they cannot control their lust. He may not know better, but she should.

 

[The Guard]

When did this thread turn into "People aren't perfect"?

Wow, a 14 year old may have screwed up by having sex with his nearly 30 babysitter? Said 30 year old may potentially have some issues?

Some real newflashes, there.

 

[DBella]

No, topic hasn't changed. It's still about 'sex with babysitter'. A lot of the arguments brought forth are a result of those, like me, who supports the law that adults should not be having sex with a minor. "No one is perfect", that's old news. No one is asking for perfection. What some are asking for is for people to abide the law and since she broke the law, regardless if the boy consents the sex or not, she should be punished according to the law. Yes, some laws are pretty ridiculous, I can agree with that, but I happen to support this one because it makes sense to me. I could be wrong and naive but it makes sense to me.

 

[Majic Walrus]

When did this thread turn into "People aren't perfect"?

Wow, a 14 year old may have screwed up by having sex with his nearly 30 babysitter? Said 30 year old may potentially have some issues?

Some real newflashes, there.

 

[The Guard]

Where did anyone suggest that the law not be applicable here? Did I miss that somewhere?

 

[knowsbleed]

I heard a rumor that Spoons is really a 14 year old. Hmm...

 

[Matt]

10 year olds and 14 year olds are two different things.

So are 14 and 18

 

[AndThePickles]

Where did anyone suggest that the law not be applicable here? Did I miss that somewhere?

Some people were saying earlier in the thread that using the law as part of the argument is lame.

 

[DBella]

Her sentence should be suspended until the kid is 21. If he regrets banging her at the age of 21 she should go to jail.

I somehow doubt he will though. He'd probably pass her his current phone number at the court hearing.

This is still sick and disgusting that woman should be punishe--. Who am I kidding. Way to go kid. You're name will never be forgotten.

I may sound ignorant for this, but how the hell is this a crime? Was it consensual? Did the kid want it?

So, like, how is it inherently wrong? I'm dead serious. I know what the laws say, but is it really a crime?

Sure, it's easier. But that doesn't actually make it right.

Like this situation. If the kid wanted the sex, how is it inherently a crime? How is it abuse in the very essence of the term?

The age of consent in most states is 16. But 16 is just a number. It's not like a kid turns 16 and suddenly they discover the fountain of maturity.

Laws have nothing to do with right and wrong.



But what makes it wrong? The boy gets the perks of having sex with an attractive woman that he clearly liked and the woman gets the perks of having sex with the boy she chooses. Laws should be used to protect people, who is being protected here with both parties benefit?

The law is the law, and she broke it. If you want the law to change, call your congressman and start a petition.

Where did anyone suggest that the law not be applicable here? Did I miss that somewhere?

I may have read the above posts wrong but I thought some were suggesting that the law should be changed and not affect this case because he's 14 years of age and he knows everything there is to know about sex and he consented and therefore what she did, should not be a considered crime.

 

[DBella]

Some people were saying earlier in the thread that using the law as part of the argument is lame.

That was how I interpreted some of the posts that had been made here as well.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I heard a rumor that Spoons is really a 14 year old. Hmm...

Haha, w/e

 

[E-Man]

Haha, w/e

HAHAHAHA awesome avy. Coors FTW!

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I must say I find some of the outrage a bit too much. Based on the available information and only the available information, a young teenager slept with a relatively attractive women in her late 20s. He probably pursued her to start with because I know I would have probably pursued her. He is unlikely to have big mental problems as a result.

Of course, if the circumstances were any different most people's opinions would be too. But we are talking about a teenage boy who would have sex with anyone who offerred and if it is not considerred wrong for him to have sex with a girl his age then I have no qualms because the girl was older especially if she was attractive.

The law does apply but I just hope the judge shows some leniancy because I honestly do not think this woman is a criminal just somehwat misguided (and a bit stupid if she bragged about it to his brothers).

 

[AnorexicBatman]

In these cases I usual hold the older one to be responsible
How do we know the babysitter didn't seduce the kid or something?

Unlike Catman, if it was my son. I would have given him a good thrashing
Unless of course, he was not in control and victimized

 

[Catman]

So are 14 and 18

True. But 14 and 18 year olds are high school students. So, while there's differences there's also a lot of similarities. While 10 and 14 years old are world's apart. You're essentially comparing a 5th grader with a HS freshmen.