Shane Black Directing Predator Sequel! - Part 2

[Slick]

I’m thinking they somehow tracked him but I get what you mean lol. I don’t need it to make sense it was dumb fun haha. They could’ve done a better job though.

 

[henzINNIT]

The Predators must have had their own methods of identifying killers. I doubt they were simply reading the human newspapers.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Semi serious take on it.
Fact : the Preds love hunting humans (established in P1 and P2, comics books etc).
In Predators, they have a whole planet dedicated to hunting and this group of "uber" Preds picked up specific humans as their game, my guess, there is a Preds branch dedicated to seek worthy targets on Earth and that is how the Topher Grace character was selected and they do in fact FBI work.

 

[3rdstone]

IMO: Predators has serious flaws, but I'll always take it, and enjoy it before the more lazy predecessors; A vs P, A vs P 2 (haven't seen last Predator, because I just refuse). Also IMO it's actually less stupid than the recent two Alien related flicks, which were such huge disappointments, considering it was Ridley Scott going back to that concept.

I'm sorry, Ridley, but that's just how it is (and this is coming from someone trying to sneak in at Alien back in 1979 when my pal and I was like 13 (at a 15 rated movie in my country). Well, lets just say I've done more succesful projects since then..).

 

[Spider-Aziz]

haven't seen last Predator, because I just refuse

Keep at it, you're doing yourself a service. I hate it a lot less than the two awful Alien prequels and still wish I did not sit through it.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Keep at it, you're doing yourself a service. I hate it a lot less than the two awful Alien prequels and still wish I did not sit through it.

The worst part is how do you have a pretty good cast and waste them?

 

[3rdstone]

Keep at it, you're doing yourself a service. I hate it a lot less than the two awful Alien prequels and still wish I did not sit through it.

Thank You. I was hoping for someone as convincing as you did here, Spider-Aziz. Now I don't have to bother with it. Thanks again!

 

[3rdstone]

The worst part is how do you have a pretty good cast and waste them?

That was the only excuse for me to watch it at first, but then the trailer got out: Ehh.. And then the reviews.. OK thank you, but no thank you..

Yeah, complete of waste of cast. Sadly not the first time though.

 

[elgaz]

The only Predator films of consequence for me is the first two with the excellent protagonists Dutch and Detective Lieutenant Mike Harrigan.

This.

I can just about stomach the Adrien Brody one but I found it wasted a lot of potential and his constant Batman-esque voice grated on me.

Still holding onto my dream of a Predator sequel revisiting Dutch. No runway models or hooky teams or humour or 10ft Predators, just something with the creepy tone of the original and bringing in a PTSD-afflicted Dutch facing his greatest fear for the first time in 30 years since one killed his team.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hopefully the new movie can give the franchise a much needed boost. At least they are trying something a bit different and I liked Midthunder a lot in Legion.

 

[metaphysician]

This.

I can just about stomach the Adrien Brody one but I found it wasted a lot of potential and his constant Batman-esque voice grated on me.

Still holding onto my dream of a Predator sequel revisiting Dutch. No runway models or hooky teams or humour or 10ft Predators, just something with the creepy tone of the original and bringing in a PTSD-afflicted Dutch facing his greatest fear for the first time in 30 years since one killed his team.

Hmm. I think this could *just about* work, since "Massively delayed nostalgia sequels" are actually a significant chunk of modern genre movies. It would be a tricky needle to thread, though. On one hand, to be faithful to the original spirit the revisit to Dutch should *not* be entirely positive; as you suggest, he really ought to bear the psychological scars from the encounter, which should be matched thematically to "Should you, the audience, really treat a *terrible event* as some unmitigated happy nostalgia high?" On the other hand, a pure "there is only suffering and loss/stop looking at the past you nerd losers" storyline would be really ****ty. The original movie may have had Dutch go through hell to get to the end, but he *did* win, and not just by chance but through courage, skill, and an ability to learn and understand the situation. The thematic through-line of this hypothetical sequel might be grim, but it similarly should have positive as well as negative messages.

 

[chamber-music]

A traumatized Dutch sequel would probably end up like Ripley in Aliens. Dutch telling people predators are dangerous and people not listening to him until it's too late. Dutch then proceeds to take on the Predator himself again.

 

[Deck Rickard]

This.

I can just about stomach the Adrien Brody one but I found it wasted a lot of potential and his constant Batman-esque voice grated on me.

Still holding onto my dream of a Predator sequel revisiting Dutch. No runway models or hooky teams or humour or 10ft Predators, just something with the creepy tone of the original and bringing in a PTSD-afflicted Dutch facing his greatest fear for the first time in 30 years since one killed his team.

It’s still funny to me that somehow this franchise has never been able to lure Arnold back. On one hand, I can understand it because no Predator sequel has been good. But on the other hand, Arnold has returned for one bad Terminator sequel after another, and is now making a sequel to Twins. So his standards aren’t THAT high. That said though, these movies have all sucked since he departed so maybe he enjoys that the franchise apparently can’t work without him.

 

[Sithborg]

It’s still funny to me that somehow this franchise has never been able to lure Arnold back. On one hand, I can understand it because no Predator sequel has been good. But on the other hand, Arnold has returned for one bad Terminator sequel after another, and is now making a sequel to Twins. So his standards aren’t THAT high. That said though, these movies have all sucked since he departed so maybe he enjoys that the franchise apparently can’t work without him.

Its actually a fairly simple reason: $$$

The Terminator franchise is a more profitable venture than a Predator film. You can find the money for a Terminator film to Arnold, you can't do that for Predator.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Didn’t Arnold turn down a cameo for either Predators or The Predator (or maybe both) cause he said he doesn’t do cameos? He said he’d only return if they actually wrote him an integral interesting part.

 

[Deck Rickard]

If that’s true, then Arnie is lying. Arnold has had cameos in a bunch of stuff, like The Rundown, the first Expendables movie and that stupid Around the World in 80 Days thing with Jackie Chan.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yeah, but post-Governship I guess he changed his mind lol

We very much wanted him in the film but what we had written was a cameo that would have spring-boarded into a major role in any sequel,” said Dekker. “He decided it wasn’t enough of a role and nobody was willing to put money on the possibility of a sequel. He would be taking a pay cut. He would have said, ‘Come with me if you want to live.’ Shane had a talk with Arnold but at the end of the day, the sequel wasn’t a done deal and this is really not a lot of screen time for Arnold to go and fly to Canada and do a half day.”

Details emerge on The Predator cameo that Arnold Schwarzenegger rejected

 

[Mani-Man]

Its actually a fairly simple reason: $$$

The Terminator franchise is a more profitable venture than a Predator film. You can find the money for a Terminator film to Arnold, you can't do that for Predator.

Does it make that much more money? I never really looked into it.
But look at how many Predator movies we got by now, someone seems to think there is money to be made.

I would definitly pay money to see Arnie as Dutch again, going into the jungle or so and fight a predator again.
Give me the simplest premise, i would be happy with it.
Im that easy by now when it comes to predator.

Some simple "Send a group of mercenaries in this place and fight a predator" story...nostalgia would work for me on this easily.

 

[elgaz]

Hmm. I think this could *just about* work, since "Massively delayed nostalgia sequels" are actually a significant chunk of modern genre movies. It would be a tricky needle to thread, though. On one hand, to be faithful to the original spirit the revisit to Dutch should *not* be entirely positive; as you suggest, he really ought to bear the psychological scars from the encounter, which should be matched thematically to "Should you, the audience, really treat a *terrible event* as some unmitigated happy nostalgia high?" On the other hand, a pure "there is only suffering and loss/stop looking at the past you nerd losers" storyline would be really ****ty. The original movie may have had Dutch go through hell to get to the end, but he *did* win, and not just by chance but through courage, skill, and an ability to learn and understand the situation. The thematic through-line of this hypothetical sequel might be grim, but it similarly should have positive as well as negative messages.

The Dutch we saw at the end of Predator was traumatised, sitting in a helicopter staring into nothingness after losing his entire team - who were obviously all very close to one another - to an alien hunter. It wouldn't have suprised me if Dutch developed some kind of PTSD and spent the next few decades living in isolation, trying to process what he went through.

I like the idea of a sequel where the government or some other group seek him out because he's one of very few humans in history to survive a Predator encounter. They need his insight but he's reluctant to help or to get involved again.

 

[Mani-Man]

I like the idea of a sequel where the government or some other group seek him out because he's one of very few humans in history to survive a Predator encounter. They need his insight but he's reluctant to help or to get involved again.

That would be neat.
Seems to me, a Predator sequel with Dutch is one of the easiest things you could do on paper.

 

[TheVileOne]

If they were going to do a film like that, the time to do it would've been in the 1990s, not the 2020s.

 

[elgaz]

If they were going to do a film like that, the time to do it would've been in the 1990s, not the 2020s.

I wouldn't envisage Arnold as the main star in it though. More of an advisor role. Let's say the Predator wipes out a team of highly trained men equipped with the most sophisticated Earth weapons there are - the military seeks out Dutch and asks him, "how did you kill it, alone in a jungle using only whatever materials you could find?"

 

[TheVileOne]

It's kind of too little too late for that. Now the franchise is going straight to Hulu. It's no longer theatrically viable. I think the window to do something cool with Arnold in the franchise is closed.

 

[Drizzle]

If they were going to do a film like that, the time to do it would've been in the 1990s, not the 2020s.

They could have had Arnold and Danny Glover. Putting together two survivors of Predator attacks could have made for an interesting concept.

 

[elgaz]

They could have had Arnold and Danny Glover. Putting together two survivors of Predator attacks could have made for an interesting concept.

I like that idea. Thrown in a military room together with no explanation, whilst they await briefing. And as they talk warily they realise they both share an extremely unique bond in that they're members of a very small group of people to have killed a Predator.