Brad Bird Directing Tomorrowland - Part 1

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[Project862006]

EXCLUSIVE: Brad Bird has been set to direct 1952, a script that Disney paid former Lost producer Damon Lindelof(Prometheus,LOST)last year to write. The film, which Lindelof is writing with Jeff Jensen, is a closely guarded secret at Disney, but it’s a big scale tent pole film. I’m not sure if it’s a reference to the year, or a Lost reference. But it has multi-platform aspirations, and the studio hopes it will be the next film directed by Bird, who made the leap from animation to live action feature directing with the blockbuster Mission: Impossible–Ghost Protocol. The intention is to get the film into production next year, after a long prep, with Lindelof producing. Bird has been developing his own projects, including 1906. The Lindelof deal was made last June and came out of a series of meetings that Lindelof had with Disney’s production president Sean Bailey and senior exec Brigham Taylor, and it’s the first film that Lindelof is producing from the ground up. He has had an enviable run as a screenwriter since Lost wrapped. Hired to rewrite Jon Spaihts’ Alien prequel, Lindelof came up with an idea that Ridley Scott embraced and it turned the film into Prometheus, a free-standing film. He also co-wrote the Star Trek sequel for JJ Abrams. Bird is repped by UTA, Lindelof by CAA.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/bra...elofs-secret-shrouded-script-1952-for-disney/

 

[Anita18]

She specified former boss for a reason.

It's not that, he was a really awesome boss. I wasn't helping people fast enough with cancer research.

 

[dark_b]

 

[Octoberist]

It should be the other way around if we're going into noogie territory.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Bird looks like Mr. Incredible.

 

[terry78]

The man voiced Edna Mode. That negates any poor choices he's made.

 

[BeserkerHilf]

So we saw it last night and we thoroughly enjoyed it. I think its message needed to be said, but as usual with Lindeloff, it just falls flat in the end. Bird makes a hell of an interesting movie to watch, I just hate that they couldn't come to some kind of interesting conclusion.

Spoiler

Hugh Laurie absolutely did not need to die. They do a good job justifying his Ozymandias-plan to the point that I kind of understand that there's only so much that you can do. And then the very people you try to save turn a blind eye, so yea, Tomorrowland's existence wouldn't benefit from letting people from our dimension in. But they go through the whole taking out the Monitor, killing Nix in the process, and then tell us how they avoided the Apocalypse instead of showing us. Nix was the one person who was owed seeing things turn around.

 

[Anita18]

Apparently Brad Bird is begging people to see Tomorrowland on his Twitter. It's kind of sad.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Apparently Brad Bird is begging people to see Tomorrowland on his Twitter. It's kind of sad.

I guess that's what twitter is for...yeah, it is kinda sad though.

 

[green]

He's right about Slow West though.

 

[NoLaNitE007]

So is this officially a Disney and Brad Bird, Clooney BOMB yet?

 

[BeserkerHilf]

It's just a shame though. I really, truly enjoyed it and I'll own it on Blu-Ray. Bird has crafted a visual feast around the script. It just falls flat in the end because they want to change the world, but [blackout]they just tell you they did instead of showing you how they erased the effects of fifty years of nuclear imagery in two months. I find it ironic, as Nix explains that we remain apathetic because the solution doesn't require anything of us now.[/blackout] It feels like Lindeloff's approach to completing the script. I will put more of this on DL given his track record and this was his idea that Disney bought.

 

[Anita18]

It's just a shame though. I really, truly enjoyed it and I'll own it on Blu-Ray. Bird has crafted a visual feast around the script. It just falls flat in the end because they want to change the world, but [blackout]they just tell you they did instead of showing you how they erased the effects of fifty years of nuclear imagery in two months. I find it ironic, as Nix explains that we remain apathetic because the solution doesn't require anything of us now.[/blackout] It feels like Lindeloff's approach to completing the script. I will put more of this on DL given his track record and this was his idea that Disney bought.

It's mostly a shame to me because Bird/Lindelof seemed to have missed the boat entirely with the concept of storytelling and characterization for this one. Bird in particular, we all know he's WAY better than this! And it's sad that at least through his Twitter, it doesn't seem like he's realized this?

They spend the majority of the movie GETTING to Tomorrowland, but that's not even really the point. Then they have to pack the entirety of the actual story into one bad-guy monologue.

Not to mention, for all of the research the Pixar filmmakers put into Ratatouille, even learning how to cook French cuisine, they didn't seem to have talked to ANYBODY who was an inventor or engineer or scientist, or even a gifted high school student who won some kind of science Olympiad, or SOMETHING. Casey, Casey's dad, Frank, and Nix should have been "my people" through and through (my parents were engineers at Bell Labs, I was in a gifted program in HS, went to a top 5 liberal arts college, did cancer research, and I'm even the "failure" of my family considering the academic pedigree of my relatives!), but I didn't find anything familiar in them AT ALL. Nothing. Nada. Nothing they said or did rang true to me. Yeah I know it's "just a kid's movie," but come on, we all know Bird is better than a typical "just a kid's movie." I may not have superpowers, but the family dynamics of The Incredibles felt so real.

The extent of research they did into the characters seemed like it amounted to visiting Tomorrowland in a Disney park and saw what the Disney Co THOUGHT such people were like. That's what it felt like when I was watching it. All the characters were caricatures. They didn't feel real.

This stuff matters. My husband started yawning in the first 20 minutes, because the characters completely lost him. He hated everybody and thought they were all idiots, despite the movie desperately trying to tell us otherwise.

We all know Bird is better than this. That is what's sad about it.

 

[:eek:]

Disney To Lose $140M On "Tomorrowland"?

By Garth Franklin Wednesday June 10th 2015 11:39AM
Brad Bird's fantasy adventure "Tomorrowland" sadly looks like it could be a major dud for Disney Studios, though not quite as large a one as their other big-budget write-offs in recent years like "John Carter" and "The Lone Ranger".
THR reports that the project, which cost $180 million to produce and a further $150 million to market, currently sits at $169.9 million at the worldwide box-office and isn't expected to gross much more than $200 million by the time it finishes its global rollout (China in particular has seemingly ignored the movie).
That means it could be a $120-140 million loss for the company, their first financial misfire in two years and the third major one of 2015 so far in the wake of both "Jupiter Ascending" and "Seventh Son". Of course, with Disney's track record and other films this year, the loss is not expected to have much impact at all.

 

[Voltron]

Just saw this. The message they're telling is absolutely important. Unfortunately this movie is so bland. A visual feast, but the story is so lacklustre. It would've been great if the robots in the shop survived and were the ones that continued to chase them. The pacing is so slow and off at some parts. The Athena/Frank storyline was a bit disturbing, not sure why adult Frank is still hang up about it.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

One of the problems was that the movie takes it sweet ol' time trying to get anywhere. Visually its designs are pretty nifty. I found the opening to be kind of annoying with the narration and interruptions. It fell a bit flat with me by the end and so I have mixed feelings. The Athena character was pretty fun and probably the most consistent. Casey was good at first but felt progressively lost in the shuffle by the end. Frank's (Clooney) introduction goes on too long in the prologue and then he was mostly ok in the rest of the movie. I don't necessarily mind the preachy-ness of the message* because I think too many movies are made that don't really have any sort of message about its characters or the world we live in, but something felt missing.

* EDIT: Like Interstellar and the message about love, I didn't have an issue with that either.

 

[Flint Marko]

I have yet to see this movie, and I doubt I ever will. The trailers never interested me to begin with, and neither did the sneak peek scene I saw in theaters two or three times. I really like Brad Bird as a film maker so it's tough that this was such a disappointment.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Clooney really isn't a box office draw...especially for young people. Gravity made a lot of money. I didn't really care for that flimsy tech demo of a movie and its irritating character lead (played by Bullock).

I enjoyed the trailers and tv spots for Tomorrowland but I can see how they didn't present the concept or characters as very relateable to people, instead trying to keep it pretty secretive.

 

[CGHulk]

The only problem with this movie was the ending. The world was coming to an end which took decades in the making, due to a machine that was creating apathy and negativity in the minds of the people of Earth. The countdown to the end of the Earth was in six days, and somehow turning off the machine magically ended decades in the making catastrophic effects to the to the Earth. It was never explained that turning off the machine ended that from happening and how was it possible. We just got our happy ending. This was just lazy writing. It looks like the writer didn't know how to end the movie.

 

[chamber-music]

I liked the message of the movie and the visuals were nice but the first two acts could of easily been condensed without losing too much.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

I got bored out of my mind in the first half of the movie but the middle act was very good. The final act was alright though they threw too much science at me for me to catch all of it!

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

USA Today - Brad Bird weathers 'Tomorrowland' turmoil

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/10/02/brad-bird-tomorrowland-exclusive-clip/73242758/ (video)

 

[-JKR-]

I think this will be one of those underappreciated movies, which will be revisited down the line, and reevaluated. Like James Cameron's The Abyss.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think this will be one of those underappreciated movies, which will be revisited down the line, and reevaluated. Like James Cameron's The Abyss.

The Abyss had a director's cut that's actually a fantastic movie. The original theatrical cut is still not a great movie.

That USA Today article was really odd. I don't think it was necessary for the writer to blame the audience for not getting the movie, or not liking an original film. First of all, it's not a wholly original film. The title itself comes from the Disneyland theme park and Walt Disney's ideas about creating like an actual futuristic town.

What about Inside Out? That's a completely original film. Not a sequel or adaptation. It was very successful this summer.