Civil War She'll put a hex on you! The official Scarlet Witch thread

[AvengerPA]

 

[Loki882]

Unless he's built an armor specifically to counter her abilities (he tends to do that).

 

[ernesth100]

That would make sense considering they are on opposing sides and just incase Stark needs to avoid Scarlet Witch's magic he can build an armor or modify a pre existing one to counter her abilities.

 

[BoredGuy]

yeah that's why I said Ant-Man, cuz Stark knows about SW and would've prepared contingencies for her
but he has no idea who Scott/Ant-Man is

I love MCU Iron Man, but I now really wanna see AM kick his suit's ass... got myself all worked up...

 

[TalismanRing]

yeah that's why I said Ant-Man, cuz Stark knows about SW and would've prepared contingencies for her
but he has no idea who Scott/Ant-Man is

I love MCU Iron Man, but I now really wanna see AM kick his suit's ass... got myself all worked up...

Unless they have Ant-Man taking place the exact same time as Civil War then Tony should know about Scott from his infiltration unless he's completely uninvolved with The Avengers and with Tony providing the facility and footing the bill that would see unlikely.

Besides, AM would have to go Microverse to get in Tony's suit and that's the only way he could harm him. Tony's certainly a more difficult opponent than Yellowjacket or Falcon.

 

[Mike5575]

yeah that's why I said Ant-Man, cuz Stark knows about SW and would've prepared contingencies for her
but he has no idea who Scott/Ant-Man is

I love MCU Iron Man, but I now really wanna see AM kick his suit's ass... got myself all worked up...

Stark's dad worked with Pym for many years. It's safe to say that Tony knew about the original Ant-Man. I'm sure Tony knew about Scott Lang. PymTech imploded, witnesses of what appeared to be "one messed up looking dog" and a giant Thomas The Train Engine crashing on top of a cop car would be enough to clue Tony in that a new Ant-Man has emerged.

Unless Ant-Man goes into the quantum realm, he's not touching Stark.

 

[ernesth100]

Unless Ant-Man finds out how to go giant in Civil War, which would be awesome. But it's unlikely.

 

[BoredGuy]

Avengers base he may have heard about, but Falcon wanted to keep that quiet so as to not be embarassed, plus he doesn't run the team anymore so his knowledge of it may be limited. If Cap doesn't know about him until Falcon taps him for team Cap, then Stark might not either

Pymtech and all that he would've seen, but might not know exactly what happened unless SHIELD told him

but there's no way Stark Sr told Tony about Ant-Man. For one he was basically a myth who not many knew about, and Tony and Sr were not exactly on good terms if you recall, so if it's something he'd hide from confidants, he certainly wouldn't have told Tony. And also, the head of a Spy agency would not go spilling secrets to his civilian family.

You guys are probably right, obv Tony could figure it out, he's a smart guy
But I still think he'd have more familiarity with SW's powers and be able to account for her better (unless she gets a good power boost)


oh, and Tony's suit also has many more gaps that would be vulnerabilities to Ant Man than Yellowjacket did. All his seams are not titanium welded or whatever like YJ, it's advantage of being individual or interchangeable pieces would be an opening for AM

 

[Ninjablade]

oh, and Tony's suit also has many more gaps that would be vulnerabilities to Ant Man than Yellowjacket did. All his seams are not titanium welded or whatever like YJ, it's advantage of being individual or interchangeable pieces would be an opening for AM

This, I mean it's not like the arc reactor is shielded or anything, it's just a giant hole in the chest that leads to the main power source.

 

[TalismanRing]

Falcon may have been embarrassed but I think keeping secret a big (no matter how small) security break would be beyond moronic. He could have reported the breach easily without the more embarrassing details.

Tony's suit has been to the bottom of the ocean and out of the atmosphere into a wormhole. If it had gaps or vulnerabilities of that kind he'd have been dead several times over.

 

[BoredGuy]

well i'm not saying gaps showing bare skin
but there are definitely gaps that show some inner machinery, which is all AM needs

and I'm not really saying Tony would get beat that easy, I think 99 times out of 100 he beats Scott
but I could see a first encounter, where he doesn't know all the ins and outs of the Pym tech (he most likely wouldn't know about the discs, for instance) and gets cocky cuz he's Iron Man, where Ant-Man gets the upper hand

but then I guess that might just come off as repeating the Falcon/Scott beat from Ant-Man, so it's probably just a pipe-dream

 

[Loki882]

Tony might lose if he underestimates Scott as well. Although I kind of hope that that doesn't happen. It'd be similar to Malekith getting his *** handed to him by Frigga halfway through TDW. You kind of undercut his effectiveness as a main threat if he cannot even beat Thor's mommy, and needs Kurse to bail him out.

Likewise IM losing to freaking Scott Lang partway in would really undercut him as a challenge to Cap, which would be a terrible idea given this premise.

 

[BoredGuy]

whatchoo sayin?
sayin Ant-man sucks??

lol

 

[Loki882]

No (although not-Wasp is much better. Not letting that one go Marvel). It has more to do with the nature of the premise than him specifically. I'd say it about pretty much anyone on Cap's team, besides Cap himself of course.

 

[TeeKay]

I think if Scott wants to get inside Starks suits. He needs to go sub atomic again.

 

[ernesth100]

I wonder if Scarlet Witch will still be messing with people heads in this.

What exactly are her powers. I know she can read minds and project energy blast and from House of M alter reality. But can she link minds like Professor Xavier and Jean so they can chat through their minds? It would be cool to see that in the film.

 

[Cassandra Cain]

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[Saitou Hajime]

I think she'll be hesitant to involve herself any further at first because of her screw up with Crossbones, but will later rouse herself to bail out Cap's underpowered team as their trump card.

 

[doink]

Someone who claims to be a merchandise designer commented on Nerdist that the reason SW is not in the leaked art is because it's from the CW merchandising style guide and "Marvel will not issue merchandising rights for characters controlled by Fox":

http://nerdist.com/jeremy-renner-shows-off-captain-america-civil-war-concept-art-on-twitter/ (scroll down)

I'm a bit skeptical though considering Wanda got a Funko Pop figure and an action figure this year, and there was a minifig of her in an AoU Lego set.

Their claims about Spider-Man not being included due to licensing sounds off too, I thought Marvel had gotten full Spidey merch rights even before they made the deal with Sony.

 

[Darkraid]

Someone who claims to be a merchandise designer commented on Nerdist that the reason SW is not in the leaked art is because it's from the CW merchandising style guide and "Marvel will not issue merchandising rights for characters controlled by Fox":

http://nerdist.com/jeremy-renner-shows-off-captain-america-civil-war-concept-art-on-twitter/ (scroll down)

I'm a bit skeptical though considering Wanda got a Funko Pop figure and an action figure this year, and there was a minifig of her in an AoU Lego set.

Their claims about Spider-Man not being included due to licensing sounds off too, I thought Marvel had gotten full Spidey merch rights even before they made the deal with Sony.

That's not true. Quicksilver has figures and legos and other toys. Marvel should have the merch rights for both SW and Spidey. Fox does not have the rights for both twins. Or any X-Men in terms of merch rights.

 

[Mike5575]

t:

Love that photo. It's like she's waving at Team Cap, and is like "Wait, where are you guys going? I'm right here."

Maybe Wanda has trouble controlling her powers and seeks out the all powerful Sorcerer Supreme: Doctor Strange in an end credits scene.

 

[Raiden]

Since it is already confirmed (with set photos) that Wanda will be in CW, I'm not going to freak out over the absence of SW in the concept art, but it is a bit disappointing to see her MIA. At least we know which team she will be siding with.

 

[First Avenger]

That's not true. Quicksilver has figures and legos and other toys. Marvel should have the merch rights for both SW and Spidey. Fox does not have the rights for both twins. Or any X-Men in terms of merch rights.

If I remember correctly the Twins were not on AoU's promo arts either.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I know pretty much nothing about how merchandising and rights work, but it doesn't seem right to me that Marvel couldn't/wouldn't put out promo art/merchandise for SW

Spoiler

 

[CaptainWagner]

Someone who claims to be a merchandise designer commented on Nerdist that the reason SW is not in the leaked art is because it's from the CW merchandising style guide and "Marvel will not issue merchandising rights for characters controlled by Fox":

http://nerdist.com/jeremy-renner-shows-off-captain-america-civil-war-concept-art-on-twitter/ (scroll down)

I'm a bit skeptical though considering Wanda got a Funko Pop figure and an action figure this year, and there was a minifig of her in an AoU Lego set.

Their claims about Spider-Man not being included due to licensing sounds off too, I thought Marvel had gotten full Spidey merch rights even before they made the deal with Sony.

Yeah, that's bollocks. Wanda had multiple merchandise items for AOU and Marvel has always had control of Spider-Man merchandising, even for the Sony movies.