Civil War She'll put a hex on you! The official Scarlet Witch thread

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This is getting tiresome so I'm just gonna respond to you one last time, then you can find someone else to play with.



I've ALWAYS been on merchandising rights in this discussion. The rev-share agreement I was referencing was for film MERCHANDISE. I didn't realize I had to spell out everything for you. You accuse me of changing the subject and then you started referencing X-Men film and TV rights in your previous post :loco: And yeah, those 2 topics are not mutually exclusive - we more or less can tell that lack of merchandising support for the X-films is tied to the Fox-Marvel beef.



I'm clearly referencing TalismanRing's post here. And I never said Fox has a financial claim on MCU product, all I said was the shared rights makes it complicated and not unilateral for Disney/Marvel :wall:



Because SW and QS are not only mutants with X-Men ties, but also key members of the Avengers? Also SW was never meant to be a titular character within the MCU (and probably never will be), so clearly merchandising complications was the least of their concerns when they put her in AoU.

K, I'm done with :bdh:
Wow, where to begin? Your so unfocused with your thoughts I'll try to be thorough though.
Yes you did say it was a part of the contract to which I quickly proved wrong. That was your first response. You clearly don't know about the deal as it is very cut and dry as far as the rights go. Ive stated the way it works several times so I won't do it again.

Btw SW and QS are no longer even mutants in a retcon they are now human mutates like Spider-Man, Captain America and The Hulk. They currently have no ties to the X-Men.

And how the hell was SW not "supposed to be a titular character within the MCU films"? Nothing would suggest that and you seemed to have pulled that out of your ass. They clearly were setting up her and Vision and Falcon as the new Avengers (perhaps West Coast).
 
Good catch, I didn't realize she was on some of the group art. I stand corrected sir. However it's unclear what those promo art are going to be used for - merchandising or theatrical? That makes a difference.

I'm inclined to believe that the replacement of SW in promo art with Sharon was because that art was very preliminary before SW was added to the films. It's why we keep seeing promo art pieces with Cap in scale mail though he's not like that from any of the movie stills. Just because promo art gets leaked later doesn't mean it's recent or up to date.
Thank you for the answers, but I'm still confused. Because IIRC that art was at Toy Fair and it's all over the merch in stores.It's not just "leaked", it's official too. It seems like their merch partners still don't have any art with SW, so they use the ones with Carter. Back then I thought that it's because they simply don't have rights to use Wanda. But now it seems like they have begun to replace Carter with SW on old promo art. So, why did it take so long? I'm really curious. I doubt that these promo are going to be used as theatrical posters.
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It's not that they can't produce any SW merch, just that it's limited though the restriction guidelines aren't clear to the public. The shirt you posted has the same artwork with the PZ shirts from Disney, but all the group shots offered by Disney for PZ products still have Agent 13 instead of SW. Highly doubt that's a coincidence as I'm sure Disney would rather sell SW over Agent 13 given her more prominent role and power level.

From what you saw at Toy Fair, I imagine there will be some group art that features SW but perhaps these are limited only to licensed, while any vertical product (such as Disney Store) won't feature SW prominently. Could be that most licensees don't care if it's Agent 13 over SW so they went with the earlier artwork. Least Disney Store is offering plenty of solo art for the female characters in CW through their PZ line.
 
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Marvel had this to say.

For newer characters such as Vision and Scarlet Witch, we are rolling out select merchandise programs initially with plans to expand them as they gain in popularity.
 
It's not that they can't produce any SW merch, just that it's limited though the restriction guidelines aren't clear to the public. The shirt you posted has the same artwork with the PZ shirts from Disney, but all the group shots offered by Disney for PZ products still have Agent 13 instead of SW. Highly doubt that's a coincidence as I'm sure Disney would rather sell SW over Agent 13 given her more prominent role and power level.

From what you saw at Toy Fair, I imagine there will be some group art that features SW but perhaps these are limited only to licensed, while any vertical product (such as Disney Store) won't feature SW prominently. Could be that most licensees don't care if it's Agent 13 over SW so they went with the earlier artwork. Least Disney Store is offering plenty of solo art for the female characters in CW through their PZ line.

Okay, but it's still interesting, why they are redoing all group artwork now, if it's not gonna feature in merch. This guy posted much of the art, that we see now on these shirts + TeamCap promo, which repeats almost all of the previous group promo with Carter, but now with Wanda instead.
And on this Disney Store page they are offering actually more shirts, mugs, etc. with solo Wanda than with solo Agent 13.
Also, there is no Spider-Man merch, no pictures of him, but they still don't use a stand in for him with other character.

Marvel had this to say.

I think it's quite irrelevant to our discussion, because Wanda is still far more popular after AoU, than Carter after TWS.
 
New article:
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/One-Big-Challenge-Scarlet-Witch-Facing-Civil-War-116437.html

In a previous interview, Elizabeth Olsen described Scarlet Witch as the "wildcard" of Captain America: Civil War, but the character is facing much larger issues. After introducing the character in Avengers: Age of Ultron, the film finished with Wanda Maximoff without home and country — her brother Pietro was a casualty of war and Sokovia was demolished. Audiences saw her in the aftermath joining up with Vision, War Machine, and Falcon as a member of the new Avengers. As Olsen put it, she’s developed a "surrogate family" with Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.

While on the set of the upcoming Captain America: Civil War, strapped in a corset (which she said is there to only give her a waist), Olsen explained the transition further.
I think a lot of that has to do with what Jeremy’s character – like his attitude towards her, and the speech he gives her at the end of Age of Ultron. So we pick up with her having started a new life, but still trying to figure out what her abilities are and if using them causes greater good or greater damage.​
That last bit is key, with Scarlet Witch still trying to decide how to best use her powers. She referred to the brief reality check she got from Hawkeye during the final battle against Ultron. "If you walk out that door, you’re an Avenger," he said, after explaining how this seemingly ridiculous moment is his job, nonetheless. If anything, the actors confirm the relationship between Clint Barton and Wanda has strengthened after Pietro sacrificed himself to save Hawkeye and a Sokovian child.

"I do think in this film we try to tie together that their relationship has gotten stronger," Olsen said, "that their friendship has gotten stronger from the last film, sure." As a member of the new Avengers, she continued, the character shares a lot of scenes, both in conversation and action, with her teammates. "I think her relationships with people become really clear, and I think they all make tons of sense in line with Ultron as well."

While the film may begin with Hawkeye at home with his family and Scarlet Witch out in the field as an Avenger, the two will be forced to choose sides as Captain America and Iron Man face off against each other.

After another international incident involving the superheroes, the Sokovia Accords are passed to enforce harsher restrictions on superhuman activity. Steve Rogers, increasingly wary of government control, is against the action, while Tony Stark is all for it. As the two face off, Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch join Falcon (Anthony Mackie), Ant-Man (Paul Rudd), and The Winter Soldier (Sebastian Stan) on Team Cap.
 
Fandango article excerpt:
http://www.fandango.com/movie-news/...s-is-the-godfather-of-superhero-movies-750571

Where we’ve seen her: Avengers: Age of Ultron
What she’s up to now: Scarlet Witch is adjusting to life without her brother, Pietro (aka Quicksilver), who died at the end of Age of Ultron. Now she’s an Avenger, forging bonds with a whole new family. “We pick up with her having started a new life, but still trying to figure out what her abilities are and if using them causes greater good or greater damage,” Olsen tells us.
How she’s evolved: Other than her costume, which now includes heels, a onesie and corset (Olsen jokes that it takes her 30 minutes to go to the bathroom), Scarlet Witch is still trying to harness her powers. “You’ll see her do some things that she didn’t get to do in the first one,” Olsen teases. “It’s not like we do a montage of her discovering her powers like in every X-Men film [Laughs]… yeah, there’s no montage. But she does have these new abilities that we pick her up with.”
Why Team Cap: She’s loyal to this group that Cap leads and that she’s been training with for about a year now, especially Hawkeye. Civil War will extend the bond that began to form between those two in Age of Ultron. “I do think in this film we try to tie together that their relationship has gotten stronger – that their friendship has gotten stronger from the last film,” Olsen says.
 
Superherohype article:
http://www.superherohype.com/featur...the-set-of-captain-america-civil-war#/slide/1

Mackie goes on to say that he’s the secret weapon of Civil War, not because of some new technology or super power, but because he’s the stand-in for the audience.
“I’m being used strategically to ask the audience’s questions… So when Scarlet Witch is all (moves his hands around), I’m like, ‘You saw that? Right. Just making sure you f***in’ saw that.’ Scarlet Witch and her crazy rave baby technique and Ant-Man and him riding an ant. Alright, cool.”
Speaking of Scarlet Witch, the one true super-powered member of Team Cap, Elizabeth Olsen says that the rousing speech Hawkeye gave her in “Age of Ultron” has had a profound impact on her as she’s grown into the team.
“We find Scarlet Witch without a home, without a family, and she ends up creating a surrogate family within the Avengers and making a decision to be a part of the team. I think a lot of that has to do with Jeremy’s character – like his attitude towards her and the speech he gives her at the end of the film. So we pick up with her having started a new life, but still trying to figure out what her abilities are and if using them causes greater good or greater damage.”
Many will assume that given her near-limitless powers in the source material, Scarlet Witch is a key factor in this fight that she could probably end in minutes. You wouldn’t be wrong in that assumption, but the character is not only still learning her powers, she has some restrictions on them.
“We like characters that have limitations to their powers, so there’s a cost for everything that they do,” Joe Russo says. “Wanda can’t fly, she can use her power to push herself off, launch and then bring herself back down. But she has to stop herself and it’s not the most graceful version of flying. It’s just using her power to create energy to push herself up and bring herself down, but she’s still subject to gravity.”
Fans will also be curious about her relationship with Vision, as the pair have long been a romantic duo in the comics, but who find themselves on opposite sides of the Civil War.
“I think there’s something unique in the fact that her powers come from the same thing that powers him,” Olsen says. “And that is how we’ve made them have that specifically in common, as opposed to it being something else that the comics kind of created, which has been pure romance. But they do have something uniquely special because of that.”
 
From the Collider article:
http://collider.com/captain-america...ce=twitter&utm_medium=social#closing-thoughts

- Scarlet Witch has created a surrogate family with the Avengers, but she’s still wrestling with whether or not her powers do more harm than good.
– Barton is still wrestling with his home life and a his desire to be in the fight.
– The friendship between Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch has grown stonger.
– Renner says it’s not hard for Hawkeye to choose a side because he’s a “brass tacks kind of guy.”
– Scarlet Witch and Vision have a unique relationship because both their powers come from an Infinity Stone.
– She’s going to get to do some things with her powers we didn’t see in Age of Ultron.
– Scarlet Witch no longer feels bitter towards Stark over her family’s death.
– Neither actor has pushed for a spinoff film.
– Barton is now a master with a bow as well as a staff. There will also be different tips and arrow tricks because he’s not trying to kill anyone.
– They see adding Ant-Man and Black Panther as a way of expanding the world of the MCU.
– Olsen jokes that because her character has superpowers, her training is nil. She does work with a choreographer so that her moves look better than the pre-viz, but ultimately she acknowledges that if Scarlet Witch wanted it would be “a, b and c and you’d all be dead.”
– There won’t be any mind control in this movie.
 
IGN interviews Elizabeth Olsen and Jeremy Renner:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03...let-witch-play-into-captain-america-civil-war

Question: At the end of Age of Ultron, Hawkeye is with his family, hanging at the farmhouse, and Scarlet Witch is kind of reeling from the death of your brother. So where do we pick up with guys in Civil War?
Elizabeth Olsen: We leave Scarlett Witch without a home, without a family, and she ends up creating a surrogate family within the Avengers and making a decision to be a part of the team. I think a lot of that has to do with Jeremy’s character – like his attitude towards her and the speech he gives her at the end of the film. So we pick up with her having started a new life, but still trying to figure out what her abilities are and if using them causes greater good or greater damage.
Jeremy Renner: Marvel’s really smart about continuing the storylines of all the different movies from Ultron into this one and blah blah blah blah – it’s pretty seamless. So where we left off in Ultron is definitely picked up in Cap 3 here, pretty smoothly I think.
Question: So are you still wrestling with the fact of “Do I stay with my family? or do I help with the situation?” – is that still kind of your motivation?
Renner: I think that’ll always be there for Barton. You have real life and then you have fight life. And that’s the character that I love now – discovering that in him makes him a very sort of accessible Avenger. That’ll always be there, I’m sure. And it certainly plays in this one.
Question: What is the bond like between you two?
Renner: I think there’s a great connection between these two characters for sure. I mean, I don’t know if she’s coming over for dinner on the Barton ranch… [laughter]
Olsen: Yeah, I don’t know... I could be!
Renner: She may or may not, I dunno. Maybe with Vision…
Olsen: Yeah, totally. I do think in this film we try to tie together that their relationship has gotten stronger, that their friendship has gotten stronger from the last film.
Question: How hard is it, with the existing conflict between Tony Stark and Steve Rogers, for you guys to choose sides?
Renner: I can’t totally talk about why we divide, but it’s interesting, because we’re doing this scene today that’s sort of the pinnacle of that. Two gangs fighting against each other, ultimately knowing that, ya know, it’s like friends fighting friends. To me it’s fun, personally [Laughs], but no one wants to kill each other…
Olsen: Just try to get from point A to point B without getting in someone’s way.
Renner: Yeah, yeah, it’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye type of thing. There’s that kind of irreverence to it; the humor and in the reality of what’s really going on that plays into this movie.
Question: We’ve been told that for Natasha, it’s hard to pick a side because she’s used to never putting her ideological foot down. For Barton, is it easier for him to make a decision or is he also torn?
Renner: Nah, he’s not a spy like Natasha. She’s a little more slippery in her decision-making, maybe. But Barton is a pretty brass tacks kind of guy. Kinda get the job done so I can go home. So I don’t think it’s very difficult for him to decide.
Question: Scarlet Witch is part of the new Avengers now. Do we get to see how that dynamic interacts in this film?
Olsen: Yeah. I mean, we’re all on one compound together, so we are a team at this point. So there’s a lot of group scenes of us, just like conversationally and in action. I think her relationships with people become really clear, and I think they all make tons of sense in line with Age of Ultron as well.
Question: Can you talk about your costumes in this film and any new changes?
Renner: There’s always something different. He’s still limited to what he can do – ya know, no super powers, just a high skill set. But they have a cool thing... This time I learn very quickly with the bow. Beause in the first Avengers, he had that short bow that cracks open, and then I can crack and close with a staff. So now I’m a master with a staff apparently. I have to learn that today. [Laughs] So there’s that, and then there’s always things you can do with the [arrow] tips. Except for this, what they call the arrow tips, they’ll all be non-lethal, because again, we’re not trying kill anybody - just sort of take control of the situation. They’ll probably throw in a lot of gimmicks with the tips and trick arrows, and things like that. I love this costume the most of them all so far, the one I’ve got. It’s got a cool vibe to it. Very, very cool. It’s very comfortable. I’m still hot, but it’s fantastic, I love it. And it’s got cooler colors. I like it!
Olsen: We look unified in our costumes…
Renner: Yeah yeah, that’s correct.
Question: With Hawkeye’s personality, will it line up more with what we see in the comic? Will we see more of his humor?
Renner: Yeah that self-deprecating, irreverence – all that sort of Han Solo-ish, old school Indiana Jones kind of thing. That’s fun to play. I’m only here for a short amount of time, but getting a lot done. We’re having a lot of fun. That’s also what’s so great about the Russo brothers. Literally they’ll have a line that’s pretty good and have a couple of alts that waere good, and then we can just throw in whatever the heck we want. Joss was good with that with me too in the last one; just kind of throwing in some funny lines. I think we’re gonna have a few zingers in this one too, I hope.
Question: What do you think characters like Black Panther and Ant-Man add to the dynamic of an ensemble movie like this?
Olsen: It broadens the globe of Marvel. I mean they’re doing an Ant-Man film, so getting him for part of this makes sense.
Renner: It’s like a video game, really. Everyone’s got different attributes. You look at Ant-Man and you learn more about him. And you look at Black Panether, who’s sort of like a Hawkeye or others in that he doesn’t have super powers, just a really great skillset. It’s just a great balance and mixed bag to add to the Marvel universe.
Olsen: He has the worst costume, Black Panther.
Renner: I know, that poor guy. It’s the worst of any Marvel character.
Olsen: Yeah, I thought Ant-Man was bad, and then I saw him.
Renner: Yeah, Cap would complain about his cowl and it’s like dude, he’s got three on! Terrible, sweating – if it takes you 30 minutes to go to the bathroom, that’s a problem.
 
You missed the best part of that interview!

Renner: Cap would complain about his cowl and it’s like dude, Panther’s got three on! Terrible, sweating – if it takes you thirty minutes to go to the bathroom, that’s a problem.

Olsen: It takes me thirty minutes…

Renner: Thirty minutes! You got a mini-skirt on!

Olsen: Nah, I got pants on.

Renner: Oh, maybe that’s just a dream I had…

Faraci
 
IGN interviews Elizabeth Olsen and Jeremy Renner:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/03...let-witch-play-into-captain-america-civil-war


Renner: I think there’s a great connection between these two characters for sure. I mean, I don’t know if she’s coming over for dinner on the Barton ranch… [laughter]
Olsen: Yeah, I don’t know... I could be!
Renner: She may or may not, I dunno. Maybe with Vision…

Really hoping this scarlet witch vision romance happens or at least blossoms in this film
 
Renner: Yeah, Cap would complain about his cowl and it’s like dude, he’s got three on! Terrible, sweating – if it takes you 30 minutes to go to the bathroom, that’s a problem.

I love that Renner and presumably others now refer to Evans as 'Cap' in passing
 
Wtf is a "baby rave?" lol

Interesting that Wanda doesn't use any mind control in this movie.
 
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I don't wanna be that guy, but gosh she is so pretty.







Even though I'm not a guy. :hehe:
 
^Aw. I love seeing those two ladies together. I hope they at least interact.
 
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