Should Rogue be sent packing?

[ico]

So you don't buy Supes flying? Or the the ability to fly of any other superhero out there?

I don't actually, not unless there is some sort of attempt at an explanation. Like I said, Storm can manipulate the winds and lift herself, Angel has the wings, Canonball powers himself along, but how the hell does Rogue fly?

And as for Superman, I've never liked, so I've never taken it seriously anyway. He could shoot feces from his eyes and I couldn't care how.

 

[spinny0617]

From Zak Penn's Q&A on xverse I think that when Rogue's powers come back they will be similar to her comic book powers. Not the flight and the superstrength and all that, but whenever she touches someone she retains their powers for a while. the 1:60 ratio, so far she's always lost the borrowed powers whenever she stopped touching other mutants.

This would finally make Rogue useful in a battle situation as she can just touch a couple of her teammates before a fight and use their powers. And just touch random mutants she'd be fighting along the way to keep her powered up.

If we get an X4 then somebody has to fill the Jean sized role that has just become available. That has to be Rogue, she is one of the most popular characters in the comics... and what with all the debate about her choice in X3 her movie version is becoming quite the hot topic so to speak.

And yes, the kids at the school probably will give her a hard time. And Storm won't be all that happy with her either. But she has two reasons to stay there. Bobby and Logan.

 

[Radagast_Prime]

I would kick Rogue out. TRaitor

Seems harsh, but with the jerk they made Xaiver out to be I wouldn't be surprised if he said something along those lines or B**** gotta go!

 

[Nathan]

From Zak Penn's Q&A on xverse I think that when Rogue's powers come back they will be similar to her comic book powers. Not the flight and the superstrength and all that, but whenever she touches someone she retains their powers for a while. the 1:60 ratio, so far she's always lost the borrowed powers whenever she stopped touching other mutants.

This would finally make Rogue useful in a battle situation as she can just touch a couple of her teammates before a fight and use their powers. And just touch random mutants she'd be fighting along the way to keep her powered up.

Has that guy even watched X1? Magneto was transfering his powers to Rogue and she was keeping them for a damn while after he let go of her.

She doesn't need any made up power-up.

 

[StormCrazy]

She would probably think she doesn't belong to the mansion anymore and eventually leave. She maybe welcome to live there, but some (students) would reject her for taking the cure and would not understand her situation, since her power is more of a curse than a gift, and that may force her to leave. For me they should not let have her take the cure because that would mean she is out of the picture. But on the positive side, she just might meet Mystique since she had nowhere else to go to. Assuming that the cure is only temporary, both of them will get their powers back and Mystique would probably form her own group (Freedom Force?). Rogue will be part of her group with other new faces. Enter Ms. Marvel...newly found powers...Then a new conflict between Freedom Force/ Brotherhood/ X-Men...and so on...blah blah blah Rogue gets more screentime and she'll be more useful if that would be the case...

 

[ico]

Maybe Rogue will leave, and will be approached by the Government for something or other and Raven will be with the Government. I dunno. That came right off the top of head and makes no sense. Bye

 

[Matthias]

If we get an X4 then somebody has to fill the Jean sized role that has just become available.

Enter Emma Frost.

 

[MaleRogue]

I'm sorry but that is bull**** that Rogue should leave...she chose a better life for herself and Bobby.....and btw her powers will come back later on if there will be an X4

 

[invincible mann]

if rogue is expelled from the school because she has no powers
then the X- men are no different from magneto

 

[TrailerMusic]

Enter Emma Frost.

Nope

Enter Moria. She should come back with Charles

 

[cardslinger]

if rogue is expelled from the school because she has no powers
then the X- men are no different from magneto

Exactly!

 

[Nathan]

I don't think she'll get expelled, but if I would be at Rogue's place, I'd wonder if I still belong there.

It's a school for Mutants that teaches them how to deal with their powers and some lucky ones even get to be X-Man. Now that she doesn't have any powers to worry about and the fact that she can't be on the team, why should she still be there? What's her purpose? Teaching other Mutants? After getting rid of her mutation I don't think she'd be a good rolemodel for those students who are still struggling with their problems.

Also, wouldn't the first thing you'd do to go back to your parents and tell them that your finally fine and can touch people again without putting them into comas?

 

[X-Gal123]

No I don't think Rogue would get kicked out. Xavier wanted to help everybody. He strived for peace and let's face it he and Magneto were friends while they were enemies, if Storm kicked Rogue out that would be like Storm turning her back on Xaviers message. Even, in the novel, Mystique was thinking about how if she got cured and was on the X-men side they wouldn't have left her. They won't kick Rogue out. Plus Logan wouldn't let them and he is like vice principal of the school. However if Rogue feels like she doesn't belong she might leave of her own accord and maybe come back when her powers return.

 

[micky-fox]

No I don't think Rogue would get kicked out. Xavier wanted to help everybody. He strived for peace and let's face it he and Magneto were friends while they were enemies, if Storm kicked Rogue out that would be like Storm turning her back on Xaviers message. Even, in the novel, Mystique was thinking about how if she got cured and was on the X-men side they wouldn't have left her. They won't kick Rogue out. Plus Logan wouldn't let them and he is like vice principal of the school. However if Rogue feels like she doesn't belong she might leave of her own accord and maybe come back when her powers return.

Okay, I agree with you on some points, but also have to disagree with you on one major point that made me cringe...

What I agree with you entirely on is that Rogue should definitely be welcome at the school, and there is not a single chance that Storm will ever kick her out...

What made me cringe was that you said Logan is like vice principal. Like hell he is...

 

[neemer5]

She's not a traitor, but she's there because everyone there can relate to her. Now no one can. She's better off going home.

 

[spinny0617]

Has that guy even watched X1? Magneto was transfering his powers to Rogue and she was keeping them for a damn while after he let go of her.

She doesn't need any made up power-up.

I know that, but that was the only time it ever happened. And you could say that it was because of the machine. But have you ever seen Rogue display someone else's powers when she wasn't touching someone since then?

Enter Emma Frost.

I'm sorry, who? Rogue is 10 times more popular then Emma ever was or ever will be.

 

[GoldGoblin]

No

 

[Baredevil]

Hmmm...

With Storm's vehement reaction and revulsion to the very idea of a cure, it would be interesting to see how she would react to Rogue's decision to take it. In the movie, Storm felt very passionately AGAINST the cure - and I suppose it was no accident that it was Rogue who was by her side at the doorway as she was ranting about "There's nothing to cure. You know why? Because there's nothing wrong with you!"

Technically - and I know this may sound heartless - as someone else pointed out, the Xavier Academy IS a School for MUTANTS. Having taken the cure - and assuming the cure is permanent (ok, lots of debate over this point, which I won't go into here) - then Rogue technically no longer belongs to the school, and yes, has to go, sorry, shugah.

Interesting plot twist, though, would be to have a de-mutanized Mystique in the human form of Raven Darkholme somehow crossing paths with the now-newly-homeless Rogue (oh, sorry, MARIE!). In the comics (yes, we always have to refer back to the source material, don't we) Raven worked as a government operative for years, and it was interesting how, in the movie, she was the one who provided the government with the location of Magneto's new camp. Mystique's talents aren't limited to shape-shifting; she's a cunning intelligence agent and a formidable fighter, and working as a Special Ops agent for the government - pro-mutant or con - doesn't seem like a stretch. She's also spoiling for payback against Magneto for his brusque rejection of her, so it wold be interesting to see her working alongside Trask in the creation of the Sentinels.

Anyway, Rogue (oops, sorry. MARIE!) wouldn't know the human form of Mystique from a baked potato, and could easily be taken under Raven's wing and ever-so-subtly brainwashed to turn against her former colleagues in the Xavier Academy. Raven could use soooooo many motivations in this, i.e. "They kicked you out because you wanted to be normal", "Bobby just wanted you for sex.", "That nasty nasty Kitty girl stole your boyfriend, AND she still has powers. What have YOU got?"

Hmmmmm...

 

[Nathan]

I know that, but that was the only time it ever happened. And you could say that it was because of the machine. But have you ever seen Rogue display someone else's powers when she wasn't touching someone since then?

No, was there a situation where she had to?

 

[Casius--J]

Nah they shouldnt shun her for taking the cure, yes she betrayed them somewhat but noone there knows what she was goin through, not even being able to shake someones hand without a glove.

But it looks as though the cure isnt permanent so time will tell.

 

[ico]

No, was there a situation where she had to?

I can remember Rogue having the ability to "call up" the powers of anybody she had previously touched, for a short period. I think it was shortly before she lost all of them altogether except her draining power.


As for Rogue leaving the School, I don't think Rogue should leave, and I don't think she should have to. But really, I think she would leave of her own accord. Afterall, she pretty much hated being a mutant by the looks of things, and now she's normal she would probably love to just go home back to her old life and be how she has wanted to be ever since her powers kicked in.

 

[spinny0617]

No, was there a situation where she had to?

No that's my point, they've been changing her powers in each movie. In the first one she almost killed Logan but in the second one she hung on to Pyro a lot longer and he was barely hurt. Just a bit tired.

They've been very vague about her powers and now they have an opportunity to get them right.

 

[ico]

No that's my point, they've been changing her powers in each movie. In the first one she almost killed Logan but in the second one she hung on to Pyro a lot longer and he was barely hurt. Just a bit tired.

They've been very vague about her powers and now they have an opportunity to get them right.

Maybe she was learning to control them slightly. ie: instead of draining everything including their life, she was just focusing on taking Pyro's power, therefore not weakening him too much.

But thats probably just me trying to smooth over some plot holes

 

[Nathan]

I don't know about the comics, but I've seen such inconsistency with Rogue's powers a lot during the Evolution cartoon. She touched Mystique for several seconds and a minute later she's back on her feet. While she kissed Gambit for a second and he was out cold for a while.

 

[Baredevil]

Agree with Mothling's observation.