The Dark Knight Rises Should the Nolanverse Continue After Batman III?

[Spider-Kurt!]

I'd love to see another director's take on Batman after Nolan for a few movies. If not,then a live action series instead.

 

[Boom]

After Batman 3, I'd rather see DC/WB quit ****ing around and get going on a live-action Batman TV series - preferably on Showtime or HBO.

 

[Robin91939]

I wouldn't say continue it.

Just, treat Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Batman 3 as the beginning of Batman's career in the minds of the general audience. Now that we've seen and understand how Batman became, we don't need another origin film in the reboot. So we can have a new set of films with a different tone, set in, say, the middle of Bruce's career and not need to waste time retelling the past.

It does get interesting if you take this route.

- Do we still count Two-face as dead?
- Did Ra's Al Ghul train Bruce?
- Did the Joker already terrorize Gotham?

Things like Crane being reintroduced as a full blown Scarecrow could still happen in this context, but we'd never see Two-Face again....

So it'll be interesting to see how they do it.


-R

 

[ALittlePush]

I wouldn't say continue it.

Just, treat Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Batman 3 as the beginning of Batman's career in the minds of the general audience. Now that we've seen and understand how Batman became, we don't need another origin film in the reboot. So we can have a new set of films with a different tone, set in, say, the middle of Bruce's career and not need to waste time retelling the past.

It does get interesting if you take this route.

- Do we still count Two-face as dead?
- Did Ra's Al Ghul train Bruce?
- Did the Joker already terrorize Gotham?

Things like Crane being reintroduced as a full blown Scarecrow could still happen in this context, but we'd never see Two-Face again....

So it'll be interesting to see how they do it.


-R

I agree. No reboot is needed. Although, I do think that, if there is a fourth film and beyond, it should be kept within Nolan's realm of realism.

 

[BigCityBoy]

I agree. No reboot is needed. Although, I do think that, if there is a fourth film and beyond, it should be kept within Nolan's realm of realism.

I agree but highly unlikely if the new director starts including villians such as Mr.Freeze, Clayface, Man-Bat,etc.

 

[General Vulcun]

I wouldn't say continue it.

Just, treat Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Batman 3 as the beginning of Batman's career in the minds of the general audience. Now that we've seen and understand how Batman became, we don't need another origin film in the reboot. So we can have a new set of films with a different tone, set in, say, the middle of Bruce's career and not need to waste time retelling the past.

It does get interesting if you take this route.

- Do we still count Two-face as dead?
- Did Ra's Al Ghul train Bruce?
- Did the Joker already terrorize Gotham?

Things like Crane being reintroduced as a full blown Scarecrow could still happen in this context, but we'd never see Two-Face again....

So it'll be interesting to see how they do it.


-R

Pretty much agree.

 

[MadVillainy]

I guess what I would have would be a reboot. Have a director/screeenwriter set up his own continuity and not worry about being tied down by the previous director's.

PS: People do know that reboot doesnt mean you have to show the origin right?

 

[Bruce Malone]

Reboots are for franchises that have failed or have laid dormant for many years. Neither which will apply to the next batman when nolan decides to leave.

 

[Two-Face]

After Batman 3, I'd rather see DC/WB quit ****ing around and get going on a live-action Batman TV series - preferably on Showtime or HBO.

Hell Yeah! this is what I want.

 

[Judge Holden]

I don't want a reboot after Nolan is done. Keep the same continuity story wise... but go in a different direction stlistically. Make the movies more noirish and stylistic.

Because at the end of the day Batman is a hard boiled detective... but he knows martial arts and has high tech gadgets and suit. I want to see that. Nolan's films don't feel noir or hard boiled at all.

 

[Mandalore464]

Like many others here, I think the Nolanverse should end with the departure of its creator.

Yet I don't want to see another origin story of Batman either. Let's just have a film set a few years after Batman came to be, and see him faced with villains that have never appeared in the films so far (ManBat, Clayface, Croc, Ventriloquist, Hush, etc etc)

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'd be interested in a David Fincher or Alfonso Cauron reboot with more fantasy elements.

 

[MadVillainy]

Reboots are for franchises that have failed or have laid dormant for many years. Neither which will apply to the next batman when nolan decides to leave.

James Bond franchise was still successful and the rebooted, Spiderman franchise still successful but now they're rebooting

I dont see wh people wont want a new director to have his own continuity. ANd also some people basically want a director to have his own continuity different from the Nolan one, but then say they dont want a reboot

I dont want the next director be so iin love with the Nolanverse that they can't leave it alone

 

[Judge Holden]

You can carry on the continuity of Nolans movies but still have a different style to the movies.

Like when creative teams change in the comic books. Still the same canon, just different writers and artists.

 

[Doctor Who]

After Batman 3, I'd rather see DC/WB quit ****ing around and get going on a live-action Batman TV series - preferably on Showtime or HBO.

Still hoping for Gotham Central to become one, but that's a fan-gasm dream though.

I concur though; either that or adapt it to where it all began: the comic books. Sorry, but if you get decent writers and don't have anyone like Grant Morrison screwing it up, it could be a hit. t:

 

[TheFuture]

For those who want the Nolanverse to continue after Nolan leaves, ask yourself this: do you want to run the risk of Nolan's vision being diminished or sullied due to its connection to a poor film, but a film that is technically within the continuity of Nolan's films? It would be Burton and Schumacher all over again.

Let Nolan complete his trilogy, pray that it is a trilogy that we can hold up as one of the best trilogies ever, and then put the universe to bed. Reboot please.

 

[MadVillainy]

For those who want the Nolanverse to continue after Nolan leaves, ask yourself this: do you want to run the risk of Nolan's vision being diminished or sullied due to its connection to a poor film, but a film that is technically within the continuity of Nolan's films? It would be Burton and Schumacher all over again.

Let Nolan complete his trilogy, pray that it is a trilogy that we can hold up as one of the best trilogies ever, and then put the universe to bed. Reboot please.

Exactly

You can carry on the continuity of Nolans movies but still have a different style to the movies.

Like when creative teams change in the comic books. Still the same canon, just different writers and artists.

These arent comics. They're movies
What's the point of continuing the Nolan continuity if your not even going to keep it the same style? Thats just stupid

 

[Judge Holden]

Why is it?

So Batman should be rebooted AGAIN? We get a origin story AGAIN?

The mythos has been established... just carry it on. But in a different style. More stylized and noirish. What's the problem with that? No one apart from OCD sufferers will give a **** as long as the movies are good.

 

[Gianakin_]

Yeah, I kinda agree with the Burton/Schumacher route aka same (vague) continuity, different style. Keeps the Bat movieverse going without tiring with another origin, plus a new director could have the liberty to add elements of Bruce's origin/training as well, since Nolan left a big part of Bruce's journey vague (we can assume that he had more mentros that Ducard/Ra's).

 

[MadVillainy]

Why is it?

So Batman should be rebooted AGAIN? We get a origin story AGAIN?

The mythos has been established... just carry it on. But in a different style. More stylized and noirish. What's the problem with that? No one apart from OCD sufferers will give a **** as long as the movies are good.

What dont people understand that with a reboot you dont have to make it an origin story or even show the origin

 

[General Vulcun]

What about in the case we get a director who has a great story to tell, whether it be one film or a trilogy, but the best way to present the story would be in a more realistic fashion. How would this director be able to tell his story in a more realistic fashion without coming across like A) a rehash of what Nolan did, and B) part of the continuity of Nolan's films?

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't think we should follow continuity of Nolan's after Batman 3. I'd rather see a director with their vision and not be bogged down by another's vision.

Nolan's Batman was successful because it stuck to what was so eappealing to the character. Do the same with the next films but that doeasn't mean we need to follow Nolan's Batman's story.

 

[Judge Holden]

What dont people understand that with a reboot you dont have to make it an origin story or even show the origin

I understand you don't HAVE to do another origin.

But i just think with the movie mythos already established, i don't see the harm in carrying on that established mythos... but just in a different style.

The director coming in can still bring his own ideas and style to the movies. Like i said with different writing/art teams on the comics coming in. Still the same canon, just a different direction/style. And i don't see how that can't be done with movies. Like i said, the only people who would care are OCD level obsessives.

But saying all that, i'm not really bothered either way. Whether they come in and carry the continuity on or come in a reboot the whole thing doesn't matter... as long as the films are good.

What i do want in Batman movies after Nolan is gone is a more stylized, neo noir feel to the movies. Like The Animated Series, in film form. I've never really viewed Batman as a superhero. He's a hard boiled detective... except he knows martial arts and has high tech gadgets. Nolans films are great, but i've never got that sense from them.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

What dont people understand that with a reboot you dont have to make it an origin story or even show the origin

Yep. We've gotten the short version and the long version, so the next series should just skip it altogether and give us an established Batman. That way, we don't have people complain about how the Batman in the movies isn't the "real" Batman just yet. If there were to be any origin in the reboot, I'd rather see it be Robin's.

 

[Bruce Malone]

James Bond franchise was still successful and the rebooted, Spiderman franchise still successful but now they're rebooting

I dont see wh people wont want a new director to have his own continuity. ANd also some people basically want a director to have his own continuity different from the Nolan one, but then say they dont want a reboot

I dont want the next director be so iin love with the Nolanverse that they can't leave it alone

Both Die Another day and spider-man 3 while being financial successes were critical failures that left a tarnish on their respective franchises. There wouldn't have been a casino royale or the new spider-man if the last two movies were well received. My points stand.