The Dark Knight Rises Should the Nolanverse Continue After Batman III?

[IBRAH08]

While I believe that the case for that is slim, there could still be a good movie
without the realism.

I don't mean to call you out but you seem to praise NOlan for his accuracy to the comics (I would say he is as close as any of the other directors as they are all emulating different time periods) and yet you say you can only see realistic Batman working.There are WAY more interpretations to be had ESPECIALLY in the comics (and even more so right now) that are not street level or "realistic" like you seem to want. One such book, Batman and Robin is by far the most popular book right now and it has resurrections and cults and gods and time travel. DOn't limit yourself to the cool movie you saw recently. There is much much much more to be had. NOlan is only accurate to one of many comic renderings of Batman. And you say you want Nolan to be even MORE realism based? What would that mean? no more cape or bat ears? I feel like that becomes a slippery slope very quickly.

 

[aty990]

I don't mean to call you out but you seem to praise NOlan for his accuracy to the comics (I would say he is as close as any of the other directors as they are all emulating different time periods) and yet you say you can only see realistic Batman working.There are WAY more interpretations to be had ESPECIALLY in the comics (and even more so right now) that are not street level or "realistic" like you seem to want. One such book, Batman and Robin is by far the most popular book right now and it has resurrections and cults and gods and time travel. DOn't limit yourself to the cool movie you saw recently. There is much much much more to be had. And you say you want Nolan to be even MORE realism based? What would that mean? no more cape or bat ears? I feel like that becomes a slippery slope very quickly.

Actually, I have yet to read comic books and graphic novels. A lot of material I find goofy, needing a better writer, mostly spin-offs. Infinite Crisis? What is that? I will look up comic book information from time to time because I enjoy literature and semantic studies. Batman, from what I can tell, has a story rich in semantics. I read of great reviews of The Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns, though, I would wish to reserve judgment until I've reviewed. I want Nolan to be more realistically based because I see room for very very minor improvements.

 

[IBRAH08]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Crisis
I detect that English ma not be your first language, but I think that page should be available in several languages.

I think you would be surprised how well Batman functions out side of gritty reality once you do start reading comics.

 

[aty990]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Crisis
I detect that English may not be your first language,

No, it is. My attempts at proper Advanced English have proved foolhardy, I suppose.

 

[IBRAH08]

No, it is. My attempts at proper Advanced English have proved foolhardy, I suppose.

IT's alright man you're doing pretty well (I didn't mean any offense)

 

[Doc Ock]

I find it ridiculous to reboot Batman after Nolan's third film, just continue the story...and not have another incident similar to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

 

[aty990]

This is what's hoped for. I've always acknowledged room for improvement. With that being said, I hope and expect the next director's movies to be on par with Nolan. I expect this because of the simple reason that Nolan's movies would have improved with a few minor touches. I will give an example. The party scene in TDK when Harvey pulls Rachel aside to talk about how he's worried about the trust fund brigade, etc. This took about three quickly flickered shots merely to pull her aside. Now, this is something a lot of people probably hadn't noticed and I'm no so called professional at film studies, but I think that there's reasonable evidence to suggest that Nolan could have completed this scene with two shots.

 

[spidermanJLA!~]

Yes, but with the Batman Beyond story. That would be EPIC!

 

[aty990]

Yes, but with the Batman Beyond story. That would be EPIC!

That may work as a trilogy some long while in the future. I just thought an idea of including Ace the Bat-Hound in Batman 3.

 

[Rodrigo90]

That's definitely the most popular take on Batman, and I enjoy it greatly, but it doesn't make any sense.
Is it "Wrong, plain and simple" for police officers in an armed standoff to kill? For soldiers in a war? For a regular citizen to shoot a mugger? Of course not.

Batman goes above the law for the greater good. But the 'no killing in cold blood rule' is his own personal limit. Bruce detests murder, as that is what caused him to become Batman in the first place.

It doesnt make a cop or a soldier a criminal when they kill,but it brands them a killer forever. Batman doesnt want to commit an act he hates the most.

 

[Brother Jack]

One explanation for why BM wouldn't kill,that I think could work better, ( for me anyway) is to make him have some kind of psychological/emotional hangup over it.

But he does. This is a guy who saw his parents being murdered: Batman's very existence was born out of an act of murder. To him that is the one line he simply can't cross, he can't become an executioner because to him he would no longer be following a specific code and would be the same as the evil he fights. It actually matters more that Bruce thinks this way than any practical applications, even though they certainly support it.

 

[ico]

I just thought an idea of including Ace the Bat-Hound in Batman 3.

Oh, Satan, no!

 

[mcallima]

^Hey, don't hate on Ace. If he was just a guard dog for the Batcave, he'd be awesome.

 

[aty990]

^Hey, don't hate on Ace. If he was just a guard dog for the Batcave, he'd be awesome.

Agreed. Bruce orders Ace to guard the Bat-Cave. Sick em! to any intruders. Dick Grayson stumbles upon the Bat-Cave and he's Ace's first victim. This would be a most prosperous proposition!

 

[Bim]

I think they should continue the story, with or without Nolan. If they go for another reboot, i hope they at least wait a while.

 

[aty990]

I'm liking the Jack Bauer sig but surely he is no match for Chuck Norris, because...

• Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
• Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer.
• Chuck Norris can believe it's not butter.
• Chuck Norris ordered a big mac at Burger King and got one.
• And it's all because of you Chuck Norris!

 

[HARDAC]

the batman franchise needs be approached like story arcs in the comics. after nolan's story arc the next one begins with a new creative team of artists and writers. it continues the characters and story with respect to the continuity set before them.

+1 agreed

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I think they should continue the story, with or without Nolan. If they go for another reboot, i hope they at least wait a while.

Yeah I really don't want a reboot. Continue it, and hopefully they slowly open up the fantastical elements and a DC film Universe. I'm not talking about guest appearances at all. I'm thinking small references like someone mentioning about "that guy in metropolis" and its not going to distract anyone.

I'm liking the Jack Bauer sig but surely he is no match for Chuck Norris, because...

• Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
• Chuck Norris can touch MC Hammer.
• Chuck Norris can believe it's not butter.
• Chuck Norris ordered a big mac at Burger King and got one.
• And it's all because of you Chuck Norris!

Bruce Lee can still destroy Chuck Norris.

 

[aty990]

Bruce Lee can still destroy Chuck Norris.

Guess I can't argue with that considering that he was like a 11th or 12th dan ranking.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Id rather see it go the way of James Bond than Spiderman. No reason to start over (or necessarily recast). Lets just move forward if Nolan truly doesnt want to return.

That is unless Nolan comes up with a story with closure or finality. Than just walk away from the property.

 

[aty990]

Id rather see it go the way of James Bond

As much as I'd like to see this happen, the amount of movies to be made would set the story-line into chaos. This is what the animated series-es are for. I've always been fond of the idea of having 6 batman movies. In another 10 years after Batman 3 they could decide on one last trilogy.

 

[LightningFlash]

If Nolan isn't involved for a fourth, and he won't be, don't bother to further the "Nolanverse", unless the "Nolanverse" continues, in a way, with the new Superman movie(which will be all Nolan: produced by Christopher, and directed by his brother, Jonathan).

I would love though, for maybe in ten or so years, to start a Batman Beyond trilogy. Maybe get in Kevin Conroy as an old Bruce Wayne.

But...speaking of "Nolanverse" to be continued into the new Superman movie...the Superman film could start much later, in the distant future, where Batman was the first superhero, that Nolan tried to accomplish in his Batman trilogy, and it could still keep a Superman/Batman meeting open. Just a thought. The Man of Steel starts off with Superman already as Superman, so it could definitely make sense that there are all these superheroes out there now, and a possibility of a Superman/Batman movie.

 

[Ring Deacon]

I think the WB will continue with the universe Nolan has set up for us after Batman 3. They have said in the past they want to set up a DC universe with Batman being the hero that started the whole thing. I see them doing this with out with out Nolan's input since they own the characters and have final say in how they are used. Yes Nolan made them a ton of money, but at the end of the day the characters still belong to WB/DC. Nolan created a universe rich with story telling and realism. It is a great start for a DC movie universe. Batman can so for DC what Iron Man has done for Marvel.

If anything it will be interesting to see what happens after Batman 3. Time will only tell.

 

[ghostrider92]

alfonso cuaron would make a terrific batman film .

 

[Rodrigo90]

Yes. It should continue. Keep it serious,but tone down its realism to allow the likes of Clayface and Mr. Freeze to appear.