The Force Awakens Should the Sequel Trilogy bring back the Old Characters?

[molp]

Luke downing an AT-AT a la Dark Empire. Splooge.

Kerching!!!!

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'd love to see Luke, Han and Leia return for small parts, particularly Luke, acting in a Yoda/ Ben role of the wise old Jedi.

The rest of the film should be a new generation of characters. Preferably the Solo kids and Ben Skywalker. Set about 30 years after Jedi.

 

[Cain]

GL says in his head Luke doesn't marry... which, I agree, is a huge mistake. That's what cracked up Anakin and the whole point of hiding Luke and Leia with actual families until they were teenagers was to give them a firmer touchstone with humanity before throwing them into the battle of Jedi vs Sith.

I think that if Jedi could finally marry or have a partner it's the opposite. It allows for them to have inner peace with the universe and their kind. Warriors should not be lonely. It's what led to Vader having to hide his life and cracking in the end. It also lead to a lot of the council growing cold and disconnected with the universe (hence they couldn't even detect the sith lord under their nose). There should be more clarity and inner focus post ROTJ. They're samurai and samurai had wives.

The Jedi have returned and their philosophy stand but the methods have evolved. Could be interesting. Seems like writers have ran with it in lucas sanctioned media cause I didn't even know Luke had a son (again I avoided EU stuff outside of video games). I think just like many religions or military establishment they should have a right to have a partner in their life.

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I'm just kind of sick of the limited scope of tying everything ever to the same very small group of characters.

But these aren't just some random nobodies. It's only natural that the movies would center around them. Luke is the only living Jedi Knight and it's up to him to train any force sensitives and bring back the Jedi Council. Leia is the leader of the New Republic. Han and Lando are two major players in the war and without them, the rebels probably would have been defeated. They deserve all the importance that's ascribed to them.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I think that if Jedi could finally marry or have a partner it's the opposite. It allows for them to have inner peace with the universe and their kind. Warriors should not be lonely. It's what led to Vader having to hide his life and cracking in the end. It also lead to a lot of the council growing cold and disconnected with the universe (hence they couldn't even detect the sith lord under their nose). There should be more clarity and inner focus post ROTJ. They're samurai and samurai had wives.

The Jedi have returned and their philosophy stand but the methods have evolved. Could be interesting. Seems like writers have ran with it in lucas sanctioned media cause I didn't even know Luke had a son (again I avoided EU stuff outside of video games). I think just like many religions or military establishment they should have a right to have a partner in their life.

Agreed. Sexual repression = murderous aggression. That's a subtle yet vital message that the Jedi would've learned by post-ROTJ.

 

[DaveMoral]

I think that if Jedi could finally marry or have a partner it's the opposite. It allows for them to have inner peace with the universe and their kind. Warriors should not be lonely. It's what led to Vader having to hide his life and cracking in the end. It also lead to a lot of the council growing cold and disconnected with the universe (hence they couldn't even detect the sith lord under their nose). There should be more clarity and inner focus post ROTJ. They're samurai and samurai had wives.

The Jedi have returned and their philosophy stand but the methods have evolved. Could be interesting. Seems like writers have ran with it in lucas sanctioned media cause I didn't even know Luke had a son (again I avoided EU stuff outside of video games). I think just like many religions or military establishment they should have a right to have a partner in their life.

I must not have been clear enough, since I realize now my "I agree" could be taken as me agreeing with GL. What I meant was that I agree with you, I think GL saying that Luke doesn't marry is a huge mistake. It makes perfect sense for the Jedi to marry and raise new generations of Jedi.... that way it's a family legacy and the Jedi aren't, you know, taking kids when they are babies like they do in the PT.

That's yet another problem GL made in the PT that so much of the OT would seem to rectify if followed to the logical conclusion(as the EU has done). Surprise, taking babies away from their parents and raising them to be emotionless warrior monks might be a bad idea. Especially when they all live in an ivory tower and support corruptible structures like a Galactic Senate.

I hope they use the idea of Ossus, a Jedi planet from the EU that served as a stronghold and place of learning in Tales of the Jedi set 4000 years before A New Hope and later re-occupied by Luke's Jedi Order, as a means of getting the Jedi out of the political center of the universe and not so tied up with the operations of the Republic as they are(which was part of their downfall) in the PT.

 

[AnneFan]

If it's set 30 or so years after ROTJ - it provides a happy ending for that generation at least. They fought for freedom and they enjoyed it for a solid length of time. And now the new breed will face challenges.

 

[Brother Jack]

I say no, at least for most of the characters. I'd rather they go with new characters and stories, but that doesn't exclude the possibility for callbacks to the old characters. I kind of want them to distance themselves as much as possible from the other films.

 

[redhawk23]

I'm warming up to the idea of an older Luke but I still have no interest in ever seeing the Solo kids.

 

[DaveMoral]

They aren't going to distance themselves that far from the OT. These aren't Star Wars movies in general, which they could do legitimately. These are sequels, new episodes in the Saga. They will be related to the Skywalkers and Luke will most likely act as mentor. GL met with Hamill and Fisher in August and told them. I think that means he's got a roll for Luke and Leia, just as he'd always intended.

 

[Spider-Vader]

It depends on what the story is & where it takes place. I wonder if they'll retcon any of the EU & how much they'd retcon.

Though, I have a feeling R2-D2 & C-3PO will show up no matter when it takes place...well unless it's a KOTOR movie.

 

[BestGirl]

It depends on what the story is & where it takes place. I wonder if they'll retcon any of the EU & how much they'd retcon.

Though, I have a feeling R2-D2 & C-3PO will show up no matter when it takes place...well unless it's a KOTOR movie.

I would ADORE a KOTOR movie. The coolest thing about that series was that it was so far removed from the original series that it felt fresh and different. I don't see it happening in the near future, though. Maybe when the franchise is on surer footing.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Do people really enjoy seeing their iconic characters as old and out of shape or just to remember them as they were in the original films? I'm referring to mark, carrie and harrison here.

When you think back of indiana jones do you picture him at his prime or how he was in the last movie? Is it possible some of the illusion is lost when you bring back these actors 20-30 years later to play the same character?

 

[DaveMoral]

I think seeing elder statesman Luke Skywalker presiding over a new Jedi Council would be great. But I also want to see Ben Skywalker as the center of the action.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Since George Lucas wrote the treatments for films don't be surprised If Luke Is Obi-wan Kenobi of sequel trilogy.Mentor to new hero.Besides Luke maybe only c-3po and R2-D2.

Inless there Is a new sith unlikely to get any lightsaber duels.

I would feel better on DIsney doing these films If there Is connection to the Lucas Star Wars Films(episodes 1-6)

 

[antonydelfini]

I want to have old Luke, Han, Leia, Chewy, C3PO, R2D2 with a bunch of newcomers. I don't want Lando and the Ewoks.

 

[TheVileOne]

Do people really enjoy seeing their iconic characters as old and out of shape or just to remember them as they were in the original films? I'm referring to mark, carrie and harrison here.

When you think back of indiana jones do you picture him at his prime or how he was in the last movie? Is it possible some of the illusion is lost when you bring back these actors 20-30 years later to play the same character?

It depends how it's done. In Legend of Korra we see a lot of the young heroes a lot older. Katara is like an old sage now. Presentation is key.

I mean look in Star Trek we saw the whole cast get old and out of shape. I think the attitude Nicholas Meyer took is "they're old . . . and that's OK."

Also they got Nimoy in his late 70's to do Star Trek as Spock Prime. It's not so bad. Just make your new heroes cool and the main focus.

 

[Octoberist]

I want to have old Luke, Han, Leia, Chewy, C3PO, R2D2 with a bunch of newcomers. I don't want Lando and the Ewoks.

The hell? Not that i want him back but what's wrong Lando?

 

[antonydelfini]

The hell? Not that i want him back but what's wrong Lando?

I want more focus on the new characters. Leia Luke and Han are enough.

 

[terry78]

Leave out the brother. Of course.

 

[LegendAssemble]

I don't want the movie to be about a bunch of old men and robots. The fact is that Star Wars was a generation ago and it's time to pass it on to a new generation.

I'd like to see a couple of young adults maybe two who aren't particularly good, maybe smugglers or bounty hunters. They live 30 years after the events of Jedi. The Empire is gone but the Republic isn't back, it's a strange dangerous no mans land. The two kids come into conflict with a Galactic threat and they don't know what to do or where to turn.

One of the boys suggests they go to the Jedi academy and plead for help, but the other isn't even sure if Jedi are real anymore. They go to the planet and search the ruins facing off strange space creatures until they a devastated temple. They enter and look throughout the desolate building and find an old Luke Skywalker alone speaking to what appears to be himself but referring the unnamed figures as father and master.

Luke senses the two enter and warns them that if they wish him harm they best leave now. The boys ask what happened what the place is and Luke explains they are within the Jedi academy and complains that the task at hand was too much. Explaining how difficult it was to rebuild the broken Jedi order and how all of his students fell to the darkside, and without the Jedi to guide the Republic it too has been left in shambles.

The boys plea for Skywalker to come out of retirement and help them but Luke is relluctant, stating that at least Empire was stable, he can only make things worse. The Spirit of Obi-Wan reminds him of the reluctancy Yoda once had to teach him and potential of the young men as Jedi. Ultimately he agrees and throughout the movie begins to offer one of the boys training to become a Jedi...

Then trilogy should be about Luke using what he has learned to help this young man rebuild the Jedi order, and save the day.

In sequels while the hero is being trained by Luke and rebuilding the order, the other main characters should meet widowed Princess Leia Solo and Lando, who help them in rebuilding the Republic.

All in all as long as they balance the adventure of the non force related characters with the Jedi stuff I think this could be a pretty cool trilogy.

EDIT: Perhaps bring in the evil child of Han and Leia from the EU and have him be Lukes greatest failure and a reason that Leia no resents him? Could make an interesting enough antagonist for the trilogy.

 

[redhawk23]

Lucas told Hamill and Fischer about this project over a year ago!

http://www.slashfilm.com/george-luc...arrie-fisher-about-the-new-trilogy-last-year/

 

[Octoberist]

Leave out the brother. Of course.

Lando is probably the best and coolest black character in pop culture, me thinks. What Empire Strikes Back did well was that Lando never ever came off as a token character.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Right now, the only characters I'd bet on returning are Artoo, and Threepio.

 

[Baramos]

I have no idea what the point of a sequel trilogy would be if it DIDN'T bring back the old characters.

It's not like it's that hard. Just have Mark Hamill grow a beard and fulfill the Obi-Wan Kenobi role. Sheesh. It's not rocket science!