Should Wonder Woman be the lead character of the DCEU?

[Milk Tray Guy]

What was the line?

Spoiler

Robin: My name's Richard Grayson, but all the kids at the orphanage call me Dick.

Batman: Well, children can be cruel.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

And that's not even getting into the part in DC history where when Jesus Christ resurrected and said to his followers "I shall become a bat!"

I think Superman is the DCEU Jesus metaphor. Considering the outstretched arms up in the sky. Heck he is even dead and most certainly will arise again in the third DCEU movie after BvS. (Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League)

I would totally watch a Berlanti Superman showt with Tyler H as Superman.....provided it didn't follow the Flash pattern and have Superman need pep talks all the time or have his friends constantly turning out to be his enemies in disguise.

You know that is exactly what they will do. Which is why I think having a Superman series would just be redundant to Supergirl. You know everything that happens in Supergirl will happen in Superman. He'll have a team and everybody will know
Clark is Superman. And there will be all these will they or won't they romance plots with Lois. They fall in love, the break up, they get back together again. The only reason a lot of guys want a Superman series is they prefer watching a dude instead of a chick as a superhero for some reason. So that's the only reason they want a Superman series. Not because it will be any better.

For the love of God...NO to Superman or WonderWoman live action shows. No need to over saturate the characters. Let people anticipate them on the big screen.

The Wonder Woman NBC pilot failing is one of the best things to happen to the Wonder Woman film.

Yeah, what was Kelly smoking when he came up with that? The only thing at all interesting in the WW pilot was the fight scene that happened at the last 10 minutes. What is this obsession some producers have of completely
tossing out everything that made the characters popular in the first place? It was basically a TV version of the Catwoman movie.

 

[Rorschach2012]

If they did a Hoechlin Superman series, it should just have ten one hour episodes. The CW seasons are CLEARLY way too long.

 

[BH/HHH]

If they did a Hoechlin Superman series, it should just have ten one hour episodes. The CW seasons are CLEARLY way too long.

I'd be cool with that, given they're doing Legends until Dec and then in Jan Black Lightning takes the Legends slot I'd like to see them do that with more of there shows.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think it would be great if not only WW is the lead character of the DCEU, but also a woman is too rather than a man. Why does it have to be a man who is leading the whole franchise?

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I think it would be great if not only WW is the lead character of the DCEU, but also a woman is too rather than a man. Why does it have to be a man who is leading the whole franchise?

Wonder Woman is the only true warrior of the bunch. The rest are just doing it as a hobby when the aren't doing their days jobs as a reporter and the head of Wayne Enterprises.

 

[Dark Raven]

Well in light of today's news, at this point I think Wonder Woman should be the lead character in the DCEU now that there are rumours of Ben Affleck leaving the role of Batman. Not only is Gal's the most successful and critically praised movie, but she is also the most enthusiastic performer and the one who seems to do the best publicity for the whole franchise.

I don't know if they'll be replacing Affleck soon, but I think they should certainly bump up WW's role for the future so that she is the one anchoring everything rather than Batman.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Honestly, if they only made Wonder Woman sequels I would be fine

But yeah. Wonder Woman should be the Iron Man of the DC universe (Batman can be the Hawkeye :P)

 

[dax]

Honestly, if they only made Wonder Woman sequels I would be fine

But yeah. Wonder Woman should be the Iron Man of the DC universe (Batman can be the Hawkeye :P)

Wonder Woman is more like Thor, only trapped inside Black Widow's body.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I meant in the sense that he's in everything :P

But anyway, I wouldn't mind if JL was-"Wonder Woman and her buddies."

 

[vantheman77]

Maybe but it's likely going to be her and Batman as leading characters for the DCEU.

 

[Dark Raven]

Possible evidence that WW is being positioned more as the lead of the DCEU, certainly in terms of the JL movie:

Mattel Reveals a Wonder Woman-Centric Justice League Synopsis

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/08/09/mattel-wonder-woman-justice-league-synopsis/

When photos emerged of Mattel's Barbie line of Justice League toys, the packaging revealed a synopsis for the film that centered on Wonder Woman rather than Batman -- a change from the way the movie has been marketed up to this point.

It is not clear whether the Wonder Woman-heavy description is one tailored to the needs of a product line aimed at girls, or whether the success of Wonder Woman will increase her viability as a way to sell Justice League to casual moviegoers, but either way, it's interesting to look at a familiar text turned in a new way.

Here is a look at the original synopsis, which has appeared on Warner Bros. promotional material for months:

In Justice League, fueled by his restored faith in humanity and inspired by Superman’s selfless act, Bruce Wayne enlists the help of his newfound ally, Diana Prince, to face an even greater enemy. Together, Batman and Wonder Woman work quickly to find and recruit a team of metahumans to stand against this newly awakened threat. But despite the formation of this unprecedented league of heroes—Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash—it may already be too late to save the planet from an assault of catastrophic proportions.​

...and here is the "Wonder Woman version," seen on the back of one of the Mera Barbie dolls:

Once again, Wonder Woman must demonstrate her ability as a fierce warrior. Facing a great enemy, she and Batman join forces to recruit a group of metahumans to stand against this newly awakened threat. Having formed an unprecedented League of heroes, they set out to save the planet from an assault of catastrophic proportions.​

Before Wonder Woman became a massive success, one of the big criticisms of Warner Bros.' strategy as it pertained to DC was that they couldn't seem to "crack" any characters who weren't Batman or Superman. Since the movie has become the top earner of the summer and earned ecstatic reviews, some fans are now wondering if Gal Gadot's Diana will become like Robert Downey, Jr.'s Iron Man: a character so beloved that all the other movies start wanting a cameo.

Justice League hits theaters on November 17, 2017.

What do people think?

Since it's on a Mera doll, that could lend some credibility to the theory that WW is the lead. If it had just been on a WW doll I might've thought that it was merely focusing attention on WW for the sake of the packaging. But if it's on Mera then there's no reason to concentrate on Diana if everyone else is considered more equal.

 

[Frodo]

I think WW is the future of the DCEU as opposed to Batman and Superman who've had more than enough different iterations films, tv, and cartoons since the 1940s.

I don't want WB to run her character dry and into the ground like they've done with the Batman franchise , which is what i'm afriad they'll do with a proven money maker.

That said, I think Gadot's WW, Gustin's Flash, and Benoist's Supergirl is more of a bell weather of what direction the DCEU should go as opposed to going the dower ,sotto- Nolan style universe of MOS,BVS, and SS.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well let's face it, DCEU Superman is dead and no one cares and DCEU Batman may or may not get a recast soon. WW is the only strong pillar at the moment.

 

[LaughterLives]

I think so, at least for the first 2 JL flix. She maybe the eldest of them and also the wisest and most experienced. Batman is a cunning, clever genius but he's just human. Plus Affleck is a terrible Batman and he just doesn't sell the character at all for me. The idea of him leading this team is just jarring to me.

I'd kinda like to see her mentor Superman in how to lead. Maybe it becomes the thing that sparks their romance, who knows? But I'd like to see something that goes in this direction. Forget Lois. Kill her off, Buh Bye! MAybe They end up leading together and they just keep Batman on at a consulting capacity.
I'd much prefer this.

 

[tek]

it would seem desperate for WW to be the lead for the DCEU, but they are desperate. Personally it has to be the Flash as he seems the most masculine of the bunch

 

[Dark Raven]

Why would it seem desperate? She's the most popular and successful character. It would make good business sense. It can't really be Superman, as he's missed his chance. He's not suddenly going to leap in popularity after two movies where the response has been more on the lukewarm side.

And we don't know how Flash will be received. Why does the leader of the team or the lead character have to be masculine?

 

[Boy Scout]

He doesn't.

EDIT: Er, they don't.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I say sure. It's boring having Bats or Supes as the constant leads. Though I'd worry they would ruin her rep.

 

[Frodo]

To be the lead character of the DCEU Flash three challenges.

One, he has to get out of the shadow of Grant Gustin's universally praised and beloved version of Flash. Yes, its a tv show with less viewers, but you'd be kidding yourself to think Gustin hasn't set a bar for the portrayal of the character.

Two, this version has to be interesting and compelling enough to emerge from the shadow of the new champ WW, and two veteran box office champs , Batman and Superman.

Third, he has to have a strong enough script for a solo film which can justifiably stand with Jenkins WW film as opposed to just being mediocre to okay.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Personally it has to be the Flash as he seems the most masculine of the bunch

 

[LaughterLives]

To be the lead character of the DCEU Flash three challenges.

One, he has to get out of the shadow of Grant Gustin's universally praised and beloved version of Flash. Yes, its a tv show with less viewers, but you'd be kidding yourself to think Gustin hasn't set a bar for the portrayal of the character.

He hasn't. He works for the tone of the show but he plays the part more like Peter Parker than Barry Allen. People love his Flash cuz they love the show and like i said, his portrayal just works for the show.

 

[The Guard]

I can't think of a compelling reason for their to be a single focal character. Rather, each character needs to serve a compelling function for the audience as the films progress.

The strength of the Justice League is that any character can take focus, take on a leadership role, or have an interesting story revolve around them. Perhaps Superman is considered the focus of the DCEU for the first "phase" in terms of introducing the concept and conflicts surrounding metahumans, Batman is the focal point of the second phase, acting as an audience identification character and human interacting with a world of metahumans, Wonder Women, The Flash or Aquaman the 3rd, etc. That seems to be the way they're trending, trying to balance out the screentime/focus a bit.

 

[Frodo]

He hasn't. He works for the tone of the show but he plays the part more like Peter Parker than Barry Allen. People love his Flash cuz they love the show and like i said, his portrayal just works for the show.

Regardless of how he plays the part and in what context, the reality is he has set a bar for a portrayal of the character. There are gonna be comparisons, like it or not. Same thing happened with Routh being compared to Welling when Smallville was still on the air.

I'm not saying Miller can't shine with his own version of the character, but that the inevitable challenge of comparison is something he'll face. Its not unique to Miller since it happens whenever any new actor takes on a legacy role. Still, its a challenge.

 

[LaughterLives]

Regardless of how he plays the part and in what context, the reality is he has set a bar for a portrayal of the character. There are gonna be comparisons, like it or not. Same thing happened with Routh being compared to Welling when Smallville was still on the air.

I'm not saying Miller can't shine with his own version of the character, but that the inevitable challenge of comparison is something he'll face. Its not unique to Miller since it happens whenever any new actor takes on a legacy role. Still, its a challenge.

Must be a bar only short people can see then. hahahaha! Jus Playin. I get what you mean but I don't think anyone really thinks Grant set any kind of solid standard for the character.

I remember people comparing Routh to Reeves, Not Welling.
Since Ezra has been announced playing the character, I've seen more acceptance and support for him than bashing. It seems like most trust in Ezra's acting ability and he also had a pretty solid fan base before being cast.
Fans know they're not playing the same Flash so I just think the only people who are gonna compare the 2, Are Only the ones who see Grant as competition.