Should Wonder Woman be the lead character of the DCEU?

[frostanon]

No.

 

[The_Manhunter]

In the comics maybe. In this universe so far, he's more like the remote alien figure and muscle. Unless they seriously change his characterisation, he doesn't seem like the one to lead the team. It should be someone with more humanity and heart and whom the general public relate to rather than fear.

But they don't fear him anymore - look at the ending of BvS.

Batman doesn't seem fit to lead if he's going round branding people and even trying to kill Superman. He can just be a tactician and resourcer.

He used to, but he doesn't anymore.

 

[metaphysician]

I would not support any iteration of JL where Superman isn't front and center.

He is the natural leader and foundation of the team.

So, you don't support the DCEU?

 

[Richard Grayson]

Yes.

 

[The Guard]

This argument has gotten so old.

There's no reason any of them needs to be the "lead" or "leader". They're all capable of a leadership role in different capacities. Wonder Woman could be a good audience identification character, to be sure, but she doesn't need to be THE lead/er.

It's fairly obvious WB intended for her to be one of the major players from the beginning. She got the first solo film other than Superman, she was the leaguer they chose to introduce in BVS, and she will be the one who helps Batman put together the league.

 

[Strong Browman]

There's no need for a single lead character. The trio of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman have always been the centerpiece of DC adaptations. That won't change.

This.

I don't see why there needs to be a leader or one character who's positioned above the others tbh. If anything the Trinity should be the defacto leaders of the team and collective faces of the DCEU. I also think it's a little too early to be crowning WW the top hero of the franchise. After all her and Superman are the only characters to get their own solo movies so far, let's wait and see after Aquaman, Batman and Flash's movies are out so we can see those guys carry a movie on their own. Who knows after JL people might be calling for Flash and Aquaman to be the leaders.

And finally, controversial opinion time, I think the only reason people are calling for WW to be the leader is because the Batman and Superman we've seen so far have been very divisive. It's almost like she's looked at as "the best of a bad lot" in a way. Cav-El gets hate for being too dark and dour and for killing Zod. Batfleck gets hate for killing and being more brutal than people are used to Batman being. I'm not saying Wonder Gal isn't loved by people, she definitely is, I just think she stands out more than those 2 because so far she has been handled better and hasn't done anything to divide fans.

If Cav-El and Batfleck from the start were written the way Superman and Batman traditionally act WW being leader wouldn't be such a clear cut choice for people.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

But really every team needs a leader. The Three Stooges had Moe. The Marx Brothers had Groucho. But seriously someone needs to be the one to tell the other ones "You go here, you go there." And only Bruce Wayne has been shown to have leadership skills. He is the head of Wayne Industries, a multi-billion dollar corporation, and thus in charge of thousands of employees. People like Lucius Fox report to Bruce. While Clark Kent is just a reporter that reports to Perry White. And Diana was never in charge of anything either, Queen Hippolyta ran things. Apparently Diana now has some sort of office job but was it even stated that she is in charge of anybody? At most a personal assistant? So it has to be the one that is already a proven leader, Batman.

 

[The Endless]

Yes. She is the only character thus far to actually display an incorruptible morality and true leadership qualities.

 

[Superchan]

If it's a choice between woderwoan or the emo/mute/mopey superman and the psychotic Batman the yeah I'd say Diana is the best choice by far.

 

[Dark Raven]

If it's a choice between woderwoan or the emo/mute/mopey superman and the psychotic Batman the yeah I'd say Diana is the best choice by far.

Who is Woderwoan?

 

[Xrated48]

I would say yes she should be for right now but I doubt Warner Brothers would make her the lead.

 

[writer0327]

I would say yes she should be for right now but I doubt Warner Brothers would make her the lead.

Why not? From a storytelling standpoint, I don't see a problem with it. The film is on fire right now, they'd be crazy not to at least consider it.

 

[metaphysician]

Who is Woderwoan?

Gal Gadot naked and painted blue?

*ducks*

 

[Dark Raven]

Gal Gadot naked and painted blue?

*ducks*

What kind of quack physician are you?

 

[Superchan]

Who is Woderwoan?

Diana's non union Mexican equivalent! I swear it was all Mr Burns's idea

 

[The Whizzer]

no.

in fact I am wondering if Wonder Woman even has any potential in the DCEU outside of Justice League or her own solo films.

Where else would she show up? She's not Batman: Agent of SHIELD who's tasked with gathering people to form his super group.

I sincerely hope they wouldn't do the same crap they seem to have planned for Batman, where they force him into EVERY movie in some way just because he's their most popular character. It's such a cowardly move, like the way Fox forced a Logan cameo in all of their mutant films except Deadpool.

 

[Skrilla31]

There's a reason they were called the SUPER friends, not WONDER friends.

Superman is the foundation for the DC universe as well as the Justice League. This has never been up for debate. You can remove Batman and Wonder Woman from the equation and the concept would still work. It wouldn't be as good but it would still work.

Without Superman though the whole thing would feel incomplete.

 

[Dark Raven]

Superman isn't in half of JL though. They seem to be doing fine without him.

 

[Skrilla31]

Superman isn't in half of JL though. They seem to be doing fine without him.

This is based off what?

 

[Wildcard]

Baseless assumptions, per the norm.

 

[writer0327]

I think folks aren't seeing what I'm saying. It's not about who should lead the JL.

What I'm saying, and what Collider also alluded to, is this: For the purposes of the DCEU film universe, Wonder Woman being the lead character makes a whole lot of sense because she isn't polarizing. Audiences love this version of WW and they love Gal. She was lauded as the best thing in BvS and her film is currently sitting at 92% on RT. WW being the lead character, and by that I mean "the character that moves the story forward", in this overall DCEU universal arc seems to be the way to go.

Like with the Avengers, we could argue back and forth about who's the leader of the Avengers, Cap or Stark or maybe even Nick Fury. But the MCU's central character is Iron Man, at least to me anyway. That's what I'm talking about here.

So it's not if Wonder Woman should lead the JL, but should her character be the core, the center point of the DCEU?

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

She's obviously going to be a major part of the marketing of anything she's in but I have no doubt Batman will be the public face of the DCEU brand (no pun intended).

MCU -- Iron Man
XCU -- Wolverine
DCEU -- Batman

Superman will be the in-universe leader of the JL - and I believe the rumoured argument between Batman and Superman over who should lead the JL will be that they each think the other should lead.

 

[nyyarod]

Nope. That belongs to Batman.

WW has done wonders for the DCEU as far as critical and public perception, but Batman will always be the core character, as he should be.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think folks aren't seeing what I'm saying. It's not about who should lead the JL.

What I'm saying, and what Collider also alluded to, is this: For the purposes of the DCEU film universe, Wonder Woman being the lead character makes a whole lot of sense because she isn't polarizing. Audiences love this version of WW and they love Gal. She was lauded as the best thing in BvS and her film is currently sitting at 92% on RT. WW being the lead character, and by that I mean "the character that moves the story forward", in this overall DCEU universal arc seems to be the way to go.

Like with the Avengers, we could argue back and forth about who's the leader of the Avengers, Cap or Stark or maybe even Nick Cage. But the MCU's central character is Iron Man, at least to me anyway. That's what I'm talking about here.

So it's not if Wonder Woman should lead the JL, but should her character be the core, the center point of the DCEU?

*Evil laugh* I don't even have to be in the MCU and I get to lead!! Bwahahahaha!

 

[Batmannerism]

There's a reason they were called the SUPER friends, not WONDER friends.

Superman is the foundation for the DC universe as well as the Justice League. This has never been up for debate. You can remove Batman and Wonder Woman from the equation and the concept would still work. It wouldn't be as good but it would still work.

Without Superman though the whole thing would feel incomplete.

I agree that the JL would feel incomplete without Superman and Batman.

Having said that every character goes through highs and lows in popularity - and at the moment WW is the best received DCEU character by a looooonnnngg way. In the 70's and 80's Superman was the only real superhero in town in terms of movies - no one else came close (and some of Supes movies were terrible).

Why not build a JL around her ? If she's the character who has the strongest appeal to audiences, then what's wrong with that ?

Maybe in the comics Batman and Superman have been DC's core characters - like Spider Man for Marvel - but right now WW has absolutely captivated audiences and critics alike.

Seize the moment and the opportunity, it's her time to shine, so why not run with it ?