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[Eros]

I don't think so. I still think he had the best run on Spider-Man since it sucked after Mackie got ahold of it.

I mean, he was great until Sins Past... but that story would have been great if it had gone how he wanted, with them being Peter's and Gwen's kids. That would have removed the ****ty Gwen/Norman story that killed it. The rest could have been really good.

Then there was The Other... which was nowhere near as bad as people play it out to be. In fact, I liked it very much. Yes, it gave him some extra powers, but they were all good and made sense with his character. The reborn thing was a one time deal, so it was gone after that. The stingers were a little odd but I could have gotten used to them. Plus, I'm pretty sure they only worked against other animal-like entities. Those were really the only iffy things to come out of it and that wasn't at all enough to make the whole thing a bad story.

I personally liked the Civil War stuff, which was obviously dripping with editorial interferance from the Iron Spidey forward. Back In Black was a really good reactionary story to May's getting shot. Heck, even the first issue of OMD was good. It was after that when it went downhill, and again, entirely editorially destroied.

So as far as I'm concerned, Straczynski's run was great until OMD concluded. So, in my opinion, if Straczynski's run failed only on his last issue, which according to JMS was barely his, then he did pretty good.

I now can't even take you serously as a spider-man fan.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

To each his own. I hadn't really been enjoying JMS' run since the short Loki arc. The ending of the whole totem/Ezekiel arc felt fairly unsatisfying to me, and then we got "Sins Past" and that was pretty much it. The only arc I genuinely enjoyed without noticing huge problems after that was the one with the New Avengers as guest stars fighting the HYDRA clones of the classic Avengers. And that was mostly because of the contrast with Bendis' New Avengers, which was handling all the same characters considerably worse at the time.

 

[kguillou]

What I liked about JMS' run though was how you could tell JMS was telling an overarching story that was eventually going somewhere. He was building up all of his stories to some sort of conclusion. Nowadays the Spiderman books, although fun sometimes, feel like they're aimless and there's no direction.

 

[Eros]

What I liked about JMS' run though was how you could tell JMS was telling an overarching story that was eventually going somewhere. He was building up all of his stories to some sort of conclusion. Nowadays the Spiderman books, although fun sometimes, feel like they're aimless and there's no direction.

which pretty much describes Peter Parkers current personality/situation.

 

[kguillou]

No argument there man, its kind of pathetic.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Take it to the ASM thread or the Spider-Man boards. I don't want this thread to become another battlefield for pro- and anti-OMD'ers.

 

[Texas]

Take it to the ASM thread or the Spider-Man boards. I don't want this thread to become another battlefield for pro- and anti-OMD'ers.

I second that emotion

 

[Keyser Soze]

There are pro-OMD'ers!?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, pro-BND'ers, at least. I'm sure there must be someone out there who loved OMD and isn't named Joe Quesada, though.

 

[Spider-Vader]

...& he's currently residing in an insane asylum.

 

[daderade]

..what is omd

 

[Colossal Spoons]

One More Day, google it and cry

 

[daderade]

lol ok hold on...

 

[daderade]

(just read premise)wow....i mean.....he did such a great job on Thor..i.....i cant.....Mephisto? really?......

 

[Anubis]

Well, technically Joey Q gets the credit for that story. JMS asked to have his name removed, but what he came up with wasn't any better. Much like Sins Past.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

(just read premise)wow....i mean.....he did such a great job on Thor..i.....i cant.....Mephisto? really?......

Hah, yeah. I mean, JMS isn't really that great a writer, as far as Im concerned. He's only kind of good, sometimes.

 

[Vartha]

JMS knows his stuff tho when it comes to Thor and Norse mythology....he's just slower than SNOT when it comes to multitasking.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I know we're supposed to be moving away from OMD discussion, but I couldn't resist, since it was brought up. Here is J. Michael Straczynski's account of his discussion with Joe Quesada over the ending of One More Day:


So what does Mephisto do?" I ask.

"He makes everybody forget Peter's Spider-Man."

"Uh, huh. So Aunt May's still in the hospital --"

"No, he saves Aunt May."

"But if all he does is save her life and make everybody forget he's Spidey, she still has a scar on her midsection."

"No, he makes that go away too."

"Okay...:

"Then he wakes up in her house."

"The house that was burned down?"

"Right."

"But how --"

"Mephisto undoes that as well."

"Okay. And the guys who shot at Peter and May and were killed, they're alive too? Mephisto can bring guys back from the dead?"

"It's all part of the spell."

"And Doc Strange can't tell?"

"No,"

"And the newspaper articles? News footage?"

"Joe, it's been forgotten."

"I'm just asking is that stuff there or not there?"

"Not there. And Peter's web shooters are back."

"Is this the same spell or a different spell?"

"Same spell."

"How does making people forget he's Spidey bring back his web shooters?"

"It's magic, okay?"

"I see. And Harry's back."

"Right."

"And Mephisto does this too."

"Yep."

"So is Harry back from the dead, or has he been alive? If they ask him, hey Harry, what did you do last summer, will he remember? And the year before? And the year before? If he says they all went on a picnic two years ago, will they remember it?"

"It's --"

"Because if he now has a life he remembers, if he's not back from the dead, then you've changed the continuity you said you didn't want to change. Those are your only options: he was brought back from the dead, and there's a grave, and people remember him dying --"

"Mephisto changes THEIR memories too."

"-- or he's effectively been alive as far as our characters know, so he's been alive all along, so either way as far as our characters are concerned, continuity's been violated going back to 1971.

How do you explain that?"

"It's magic, we don't have to explain it."

 

[runawayboulder]

I think the ASM thread is feeling cheated on and neglected.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm sure it is. So to guide your short attention spans back over to Siege, here's a video interview with Bendis:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.10039.Marvel_One_on_One~colon~_Bendis_Talks_Siege

 

[SouLeSS]

Whoops howd this get here

 

[Vartha]

same way the other ones did

 

[Docker2.0]

Can't believe all the JMS hate. Dude is a great writer. If you read some of his post, he was made to do a lot of things with Spiderman that he didn't want to do. He's great with Thor, Supreme Power, and most of his on Spidey was ok. Now Loeb on the other hand...........

 

[Colossal Spoons]

He's great w/ Supreme Power? That franchise got ruined so badly, it hurts.

 

[RockSP]

He wasn't the ruiner, though. He was the un-finisher that lead to the hiring of the ruiner(s).