Sequels Singer Directing The Sequel, Yes Or No?

[J.Howlett]

Sandman,

Let's see if it turns out to be bad. The addition hasn't hurt it. He's essentially the same at the end of this film...His loneliness, which has always been apart of his character, is essentially gone.

Now, he's in new territory. Let's see what happens.

 

[Lex Luthor]

Mr. Howlett,

Honestly, I am not saying that the child is a completey horrid idea. I am open to change just like you are, but what I am concerned with are the fans who are alienated by the liberties that Singer took. Yes, bringing in a child into the story does move it forward, and is some ways admirable to a certain degree, but if the idea ultimately recieves a very mixed reaction like the one it's been recieving so far, I would really have to question if it was an idea that was really worth taking up. Thats all.

 

[Frodo]

Remake...
Restart...

Bottom line, is that Singer and his piece of trash tools (Harris/Daughtery) made a film that didn't connect with audiences. They tried to connect to another generation, and this current generation has basically told them that they are out of touch.

Throwing Superson into the picture was horrible, and Singer telling everyone that this was a "Chick Flick", and the "funniest movie he's ever done" probably didn't help things either. Neither did adding Kitty Kowalski that served no other purpose other than to add comedy.

I think that may be part of it but I also have a feeling that this may not be Superman's time in general. The Hero that has dominated the cinema and the culture for the past few years has been Spiderman . In most of the reviews the critics say something like," SR is this ,while Spiderman is.....". In the 90's Batman was the dominant hero with 4 films in 8 years plus an Animated series.

 

[J.Howlett]

Sandman,

Thanks for the replay but don't call me Mr. again. You're trying to age me too fast. I still have some years.

I'll a throw another curve for you. Ten bucks says Singer kills Superman off at the end of the third film and then Jason becomes the protector of Earth and the new Superman...with a new franchise later on down the line...

 

[Spider-Fan]

Sandman,

Thanks for the replay but don't call me Mr. again. You're trying to age me too fast. I still have some years.

I'll a throw another curve for you. Ten bucks says Singer kills Superman off at the end of the third film and then Jason becomes the protector of Earth and the new Superman...with a new franchise later on down the line...

I'll take it, since singer will never do 3 movies.

 

[ervann]

Sandman,
I'll a throw another curve for you. Ten bucks says Singer kills Superman off at the end of the third film and then Jason becomes the protector of Earth and the new Superman...with a new franchise later on down the line...

That would be such a lame, lazy and uninspired ending. And totally uneccessary.

 

[J.Howlett]

Why is it lame? Superman has already died once in his mythology.

Again, Singer might not take it that far but I wouldn't put it past him...

 

[The Batman]

question....

can you really respect a fanboys opinion when he/she says that singer was wrong for only using donners superman, but when asked how he/she would do superman, they'd basically only use post crisis?

 

[ervann]

Why is it lame? Superman has already died once in his mythology.

Again, Singer might not take it that far but I wouldn't put it past him...

I guess for me the new Superman movies shouldn't be a saga, like Star Wars is. Superman represent different values and traits. He's a timeless symbol, a personification of all things good, hopeful and inspiring. His stories should work whether it's a 10 minute short, a half hour animation or a 2 hour film.

To turn Superman movies into a family saga at the core doesn't work for me. It seems that Singer created a superman in his own vision which has clear parallels with his own life - an immigrant, an orphan..and along the way it became a father & son thing. While I respect that, I much rather see a Superman story of hope and inspiration.

 

[dpm07]

question....

can you really respect a fanboys opinion when he/she says that singer was wrong for only using donners superman, but when asked how he/she would do superman, they'd basically only use post crisis?

Definitely.

I can definitely respect someone's opinion that Singer was wrong for using Donner's Superman, and that he should have used a more Post-Crisis version.

 

["_____"]

i guess he would direct it if they WERE going to make a sequel...but they are not going to....why throw their money away

 

[Octoberist]

The funny thing is that Singer pulled a weird move: He was playing it safe by basically remaking the original movie. At the sametime, he tried these new things (Supes having a son) and while new, might tainted the further sequels. It wasn't exactly the direction I was looking foward to, but Singer pulled it off enough that it was enjoyable.

But everything ended in a somber note. I felt that Spider-Man 1 was more Superman than Superman Returns...in tone: Very bright and somewhat innocent. Here, it was depressing. If I want dark, there's Batman.

I want Singer to come back. I don't want a 'remake' because that would create a bigger mess in my opinion. If a remake is a go, wait 1- years and then do it. Don't do what the Hulk 2 is doing: It's tacky as hell.

 

[blind_fury]

Singer already ruined the sequels by miscasting Lois Lane and introducing Superman's kid.

 

[Lobster Charlie]

We should start taking bets. I never thought Marvel would restart the Hulk so soon, but WOW...talk about a slap in the face, just a few years after it came out.

So...will Superman have a restart announced in 3 years? Will the sequel most likely have to rewrite some stuff?

 

[Octoberist]

I agree that Lois was miscast.

Rachel McAdams....yum.

Zooey DeChannel...yum.

Jennifer Conerlly...yummers!

Kate didn't look right. I've always imagined Lois as being exotic looking with her dark hair. Kate looked bland.

 

["_____"]

Singer already ruined the sequels by miscasting Lois Lane and introducing Superman's kid.

true

 

["_____"]

they could just kill the kid off in the second one (thats if they make one, imo they wont) and have superman go f__king crazy

 

[Manhunter]

Definitely.

I can definitely respect someone's opinion that Singer was wrong for using Donner's Superman, and that he should have used a more Post-Crisis version.

Didn't you notice the transition? The average movie goer has no idea what post-crisis means, I think that's why WB and co. were so hard on for a requel, with Superman throwing all things Donner into space, what part of Donner's Superman is left at the end? Costume? Nope. All ties to kryptron's past severed. Donner's family dynamic? Heh, not even close.

I didn't mind the requel because I saw it as a transition, catching up the laymen in the audience to modern times without a COIE.

I won't know until the sequel if I was right, which does kind of suck.

 

[retconned]

dpm07,

I don't mind different points of view. But, no one has yet to come up with a great reason why a child can't be introduced into the Superman lore....

Have you ever seen the Legend of Zorro? If you have, nuff said!

 

[Uncanny]

Singer already ruined the sequels by miscasting Lois Lane and introducing Superman's kid.

And not having a supervillain to fight!

Superman in the hospital? WTF!!!! The only person that should have been in the hospital is Lex.

 

[Superman-Prime]

YES! YES! Superman Returns was absolutely fantastic. I'd LOVE to see the sequel. Dammit!

 

[Superman-Prime]

Singer already ruined the sequels by miscasting Lois Lane and introducing Superman's kid.

How could you say like that?!

Kate Bosworth is so far PERFECT as Lois Lane. A TRUE LOIS LANE! I don't give a crap if they miscasting Lois Lane. I hope she'll be in a sequel. She's friggin' hot.

I actually liked the idea to introducing Superman's kid.

 

[Fan of Tomorrow]

My option isn't up there. No sequel period, and a relaunch as soon as possible. Singer already muddied the waters far too much for anyone to salvage what's there.

 

[Desk]

My option isn't up there. No sequel period, and a relaunch as soon as possible. Singer already muddied the waters far too much for anyone to salvage what's there.

Absolutely!

 

[skruloos]

question....

can you really respect a fanboys opinion when he/she says that singer was wrong for only using donners superman, but when asked how he/she would do superman, they'd basically only use post crisis?

No. Because that would make them hypocrites. But such is the case. I'm guilty of it myself. I'm a fan of Superman but I'd have been extremely disappointed if Superman Returns was based on STAS or Post-Crisis. Mainly because both of those interpretations are lame.

But who knows? Singer might have been the 2nd storyteller to get me to like a Post-Crisis story with the first being Superman For All Seasons.

I also think that it's fairly telling that the Luthor in this film is much closer to the Madman Luthor on the Run in the current comics. And Superman is definitely not as powerful as he was in StM so he's much closer to Post-Crisis in that way. The main difference I see in this interpretation is that Pa Kent is dead and Clark Kent at the Planet is still a disguise.