Smallville writers discussion thread

[Kane]

I hate the writers. They are the worst aspect of the show.


I like some of the cast and sometimes I even feel that certain cast members are screwed over by some of the really bad dialogue they get. They do the best they can with it, but it shouldnt have to come to that.

I'd say if it was earlier in the show's life, they should have cleaned the house and maybe hire more writers who write for the comics. Geoff Johns would have written an amazing episode.

Now I think its too late for that anyways, the show has defined itself. Im just hoping Mercy Reef doesnt follow the exact same trends as SV.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Well with something like Mercey Reef where just hoping it's not Brids of Prey

 

[The Sage]

Dude's 18, he aint gonna accept still, teenagers arent gonna accept responsiblity for something like that and at 18 your the most confused anyways.

If he's confused, wouldn't he try to find the answers? Exploring would answer questions. Again, I'm not saying he should accept out of the blue but learning about it to gain better understanding.

...Because its a teen show and there mind they feel they are balancing it but not shifting the spotlight as much on the destiny part but the young Clark Kent part. Again this is a show about Clark Kent.

I thought the show was about Clark Kent's journey into Superman? Dealing with his destiny should be just as prevalent as dealing with the teenage stuff, or else the show is just Dawson's Creek with an \S/.

 

[Kane]

Well with something like Mercey Reef where just hoping it's not Brids of Prey

Ya but BoP was by other people also... but the premise of BoP itself was pretty weak. The majority couldnt care less about the 3 main characters and female comic superhero shows and movies dont seem to sell and generate interest at all.

The show just operated off a ridiculous concept.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

If he's confused, wouldn't he try to find the answers? Exploring would answer questions. Again, I'm not saying he should accept out of the blue but learning about it to gain better understanding.
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He does, but he's still 18. He's still trying to fit in and worry about things like School, helping a single mother and his girl. The fact he's more use to this life is prevelent to him.

I thought the show was about Clark Kent's journey into Superman? Dealing with his destiny should be just as prevalent as dealing with the teenage stuff, or else the show is just Dawson's Creek with an \S/.

It's always been that........and it's still good. You just started watching in Season 4 or something ?*laughs like an evil giant*

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Ya but BoP was by other people also... but the premise of BoP itself was pretty weak. The majority couldnt care less about the 3 main characters and female comic superhero shows and movies dont seem to sell and generate interest at all.

The show just operated off a ridiculous concept.

Had the show taken itself a little seriously it could have worked but man did it mess up. I'm still not sure if in the last episode they purposely made it bad because it was going to be canned and they knew in advance (lol@ Helena and Harley fighting in slow motion to TATU's "All the things she said". I was waiting for them to make out )

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Well I pay little attention to who writes the scripts but I do know that probably the best episodes (with rare exceptions) were the ones written by Gough and Millar and I really do miss them on the season premieres and finales.

 

[Kane]

Had the show taken itself a little seriously it could have worked but man did it mess up. I'm still not sure if in the last episode they purposely made it bad because it was going to be canned and they knew in advance (lol@ Helena and Harley fighting in slow motion to TATU's "All the things she said". I was waiting for them to make out )

Yes. When I heard that it was a major WTF moment.

I dont think it would have sold. It just wasnt very interesting. They took way too many liberties too (alienating the actual BoP fans...the very few).

If they wanted to do a Batman-esque darker series, they should have just done The Question. He has the most potential. His 'Dr House'-like edge and personality would have made him funny and interesting to the younger crowd (as proved on JLU) and he lends himself to darker and more deeper stories for an older audience. They could play off a GTA/Soprano's esque vibe too with the crime syndicates, mafias, murders, corrupt cops etc....that stuff seems to be popular with the male audience especially nowadays

 

[LarryLegend]

I'm not a huge Steve Deknight fan as he wrote imho the two worst episodes this year (Thirt and Tomb) and last season's worst (Spell).

 

[triplet]

I'm not a huge Steve Deknight fan as he wrote imho the two worst episodes this year (Thirt and Tomb) and last season's worst (Spell).

He runs hot and cold....

He wrote and directed Ageless (almost poor drek) as well as writing Onyx and Mortal, both of which were totally stellar eps (aside from the awful twin stereotypes he perpetuated in Mortal, that is).

 

[The Sage]

He does, but he's still 18. He's still trying to fit in and worry about things like School, helping a single mother and his girl. The fact he's more use to this life is prevelent to him.

He quit school. You haven't been watching since Reckoning or something?

And right now he's at least 19 or approaching it soon.

It's always been that........and it's still good. You just started watching in Season 4 or something ?*laughs like an evil giant*

Still good? You better hope the rest of this season is at a Nas God's Son level.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

He quit school. You haven't been watching since Reckoning or something?

And right now he's at least 19 or approaching it soon..

I'm talking about generally, even if he quit school he's got all these others things to worry about and on top of that whatever issue is thrown at him every episode

Still good? You better hope the rest of this season is at a Nas God's Son level.

It is at a Nas God son level. so-so and I'm the biggest Nas fan on these boards.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

I'd say if it was earlier in the show's life, they should have cleaned the house and maybe hire more writers who write for the comics. Geoff Johns would have written an amazing episode.

God how I would have loved to see that. I mean look at what he has done for TT, IC, AC (OYL) and Superman (OYL) that would be great if they had people like that on the show.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

How do you think he would have written the show keeping in my mind he had to please network execs?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

A hell of alot better. I mean you dont have to have him write all the shows but have him Rucka and Kelly on some the shows I bet you anything it would be much better. As I said before I have no problem with the cast I think it is a great cast. I just have a problem with the writing and if you had those 3 on at least 10 of the shows it would have been alot better then what we have now.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

That's why I'm asking, I'm curious to know how he would have mapped things out. No hate, I'm genuinely curious

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Well for that you got to ask him I didn't even know how his crisis would map out I thought he was going to let Superboy live

 

[Super_Ludacris]

People need to get over Conner's death for real.

Proof>>> Conner

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Pac>>>Proof

 

[Super_Ludacris]

BIG>>> Pac

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

look here BIG was never better then Pac. Big only wishes he could be half the person Pac was. But anyways back on topic.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Lyrically BIG was better than Pac, I hope your not one of those little teenage white dudes dudes who's mistified by Pac's legacy cause the dude was real but he wasnt a great lyricist.

Oh and to keep topic just like BIG and Pac with enough preptime Batman could beat Superman and a great writer like Johns on Smallville could show that

Perfectly seamless link to return to topic

 

[Brainiac 8]

He runs hot and cold....

He wrote and directed Ageless (almost poor drek) as well as writing Onyx and Mortal, both of which were totally stellar eps (aside from the awful twin stereotypes he perpetuated in Mortal, that is).

You are correct, he has had some stellar episodes (Onyx and Mortal), but when he is bad, he is really bad.

I wish his writing was just more consistent.

 

[blksuperman2]

Lyrically BIG was better than Pac, I hope your not one of those little teenage white dudes dudes who's mistified by Pac's legacy cause the dude was real but he wasnt a great lyricist.

Oh and to keep topic just like BIG and Pac with enough preptime Batman could beat Superman and a great writer like Johns on Smallville could show that

Perfectly seamless link to return to topic

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"They say ***** and paper is poetry power and pistols
Plottin on murderin mother****ers 'fore they get you
Picturin pitiful punk ni**az coppin pleas
Puffin weed as I position myself to clock G's"

You can't get no better than that

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I can't believe I'm hearing this.

"They say ***** and paper is poetry power and pistols
Plottin on murderin mother****ers 'fore they get you
Picturin pitiful punk ni**az coppin pleas
Puffin weed as I position myself to clock G's"

You can't get no better than that

Biggie:
Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns
As I crush so-called willies, thugs, and rapper-dons
Get in that ass, quick fast, like ramadan
It's that rap phenomenon Don-Dadda, **** Poppa
You got ta, call me, Francis M.H. White
in tank-light totes, tote iron
Was told in shootouts, stay low, and keep firin
Keep extra clips for extra ****
Who's next to flip, on that cat with that grip on rap
The most shady ("Tell 'em!") Frankie baby
Ain't no tellin where I may be
May see me in D.C. at Howard homecomin
with my man Capone, dumbin, ****in somethin
You should know my steelo
Went from ten G's for blow to thirty G's a show
to orgies with hoes I never seen befo'
So, Jesus, get off the Notorious
penis, before I squeeze and bust
If the beef between us, we can settle it
With the chrome and metal ****
I make it hot, like a kettle get
You're delicate, you better get - who sent ya?
You still pedal ****, I got more rhymes than "Great Adventure"
Biggie ("How are you gonna do it?")



End of discussion, now lets back to Smallville