So How would you change the Star wars Prequel Trilogy?

[Fanticon]

I would have had a Han cameo...I would have liked that they explained what happened to the clones, and I would have had Qui Gon show up the way Obi Wan did in Episode 5 for Luke. Qui Gon could have had maybe one line and interacted with either Anakin or Obi Wan.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

I would have had a Han cameo...

No, no, no. Cameos like that make the Star Wars universe seem soooo much smaller. I didn't mind Chewie's role, but it was still a glorified cameo. I would have preferred just a random wookiee honestly. Maybe Chewie could have been one of the thousands unknown wookiee soldiers with a pause-the-dvd-player appearance.

 

[Agentsands77]

Oh, I hated how everybody from the original trilogy was connected together in the prequel trilogy. So unbelievable. R2D2 and C3PO had no business being in the prequel trilogy.

 

[Jochimus]

Oh, I hated how everybody from the original trilogy was connected together in the prequel trilogy. So unbelievable. R2D2 and C3PO had no business being in the prequel trilogy.

I didn't mind it, since it was always Lucas' plan for the droids to appear throughout - I just think Threepio's origin is a little bit too much (cue wisecracks about Threepio being Luke and Leia's older brother ).

 

[Dope Nose]

no midichlorians.

 

[3dman27]

Oh, I hated how everybody from the original trilogy was connected together in the prequel trilogy. So unbelievable. R2D2 and C3PO had no business being in the prequel trilogy.

i don't see how han was connected?

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I hate to say this, because the small storyline and character changes you guys are suggesting are largely good and favourable ideas - but the fundemental problems are the acting (for whatever reason) and the direction.

 

[Tojo]

I hate to say this, because the small storyline and character changes you guys are suggesting are largely good and favourable ideas - but the fundemental problems are the acting (for whatever reason) and the direction.

I'd say the writing was definatley one of the fundamental problems and that it contributed to the terrible acting. Both of these lacked the charm and sharpness of the OT. I thought, among the prequels many, many problems, was that it also lacked any character whom i cared about. None of them had charisma or any likeability factor whatsoever.

One thing i would do was to cut way back on the CGI and use real sets/vehicles etc....

 

[Art_of_Crime]

no cameos from the other trilogy. we don't need c3p0 or r2d2, we don't need boba fett. I wish they had tried to let these movies stand on their own.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

I'd say the writing was definatley one of the fundamental problems and that it contributed to the terrible acting. Both of these lacked the charm and sharpness of the OT. I thought, among the prequels many, many problems, was that it also lacked any character whom i cared about. None of them had charisma or any likeability factor whatsoever.

One thing i would do was to cut way back on the CGI and use real sets/vehicles etc....

Apart from the dialogue, I don't think the writing is significantly worse than that of A New Hope or Return of the Jedi.

 

[Dr. Fate]

My laundry list of complaints/things to fix in particular order -

1) Episode 1 needed to be more focused on Obi-Wan Kenobi, the guy who's supposed to train Anakin and supposed to be a great hero throughout Episodes 2 and 3. I like Liam Neeson well enough and thought he did an admirable job with Qui-Gon Jinn, but Jinn's actions in Episode 1 contradict Obi-Wan's speech in Return of the Jedi about how *he*, Obi-Wan himself, was amazed at how strongly the Force was with Anakin when he met him, and how he felt he had to train him, show that he really was arrogant and thought he could do it just as well as Yoda. Also, Anakin should be older, at least the same age Luke was supposed to be in "New Hope".

2) The Prequel Trilogy as a whole should have done more to expand the personal history between Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi, show how their friendship came about and how it came to ruin.

3) None of that "Chosen One" prophecy crap. You don't need prophecies if you can at least sense the future.

4) None of that "midichlorian" crap either.

5) No planets called "Naboo" (sounds like the name of a candy no one would eat).

6) No Jar Jar Binks.

7) If you want killer robots, make sure they don't look like a cross between an anorexic dog and Daffy Duck.

8) Give Count Dooku/Darth Tyrannus a better name.

9) Give the various Jedi Knights/Masters more extroverted and different personalities so that they don't all come across as trying to impersonate Alec Guinness.

10) Delve more deeply into the history of the Jedi Order, how it came to be, how they struggle to understand the Force, etc.

11) None of that slave on Tatioone crap.

12) Show a genuine friendship between Anakin, Obi-Wan, Owen Lars and [Aunt Beru].

13) Less stilted dialogue.

14) Expand the role of Mace Windu, show more of his personal history and friendships.

15) Don't kill Darth Maul in Episode 1, keep him around, use his race to represent the "Sith".

16) Make the mother of Luke Skywalker & Princess Leia a more real and interesting woman. For that matter, make her an actual woman as opposed to just a flat, monotone girl with the voice of a 7 year old girl.

17) None of that elected 14 year old girl as a queen crap.

18) More story, less special effects.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The plot was perfect... it was the acting and the execution that killed it...

 

[Art_of_Crime]

I'm all for the "more story" angle. I think the first movies found a great ballance between effects and writing. These movies just seemed to focus on the "oooh thats pretty". Its to bad, they had a lot of potential, but what can you do?

 

[Agentsands77]

i don't see how han was connected?

He wasn't (thank god - I worried they'd bring him in). But everybody else was. Even Boba Fett, for crying out loud.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

How can any actor believably act this dialogue

your so beautiful.
Its only because Im so in love
No..ha.ha..no its because Im so in love with you.
*Suprised face*So Love has blinded you?

George Lucas needs a writing class. His stories are good but he cannot write romance.

Natalie Portman is a great actor yet in Star Wars some highlights of her character are "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!!!"

The actors act there dialogue about the best they can...it's just the writing itself that makes it come off so poor.

 

[Art_of_Crime]

there is only so much an actor can do with the script that is handed to them. I think Portman has proven her acting chops elswhere, these movies would make anyone look flat and tallentless. Look what happened to Liam Neeson.

 

[Batman Beyond]

I like the films the way they are. I love II, III, IV and V equally (well V a little more, OK) and I accept I and VI, but both are inferior and we know why. But as a whole it holds up nicely. Nevertheless.... I wish Lucas made FOUR prequels instead of three. Bare with me.

The OT was one story broke in three parts. The PT isn't like that. TPM served as a prologue to the main story, and II and III were one story broken in two parts. Plus, much of the main Clone Wars events weren't shown - surely a lot of crucial action must've happened. So here's what I suggest:

TPM - The same movie, BUT... The movie's title is now STAR WARS PROLOGUE: THE PHANTOM MENACE. The story's the same too, only C3P0 is the android in the beggining of the film, and the Jedi use it to fled away from the Nemodians. From that moment on, C3PO is a companion to Qui Gon and Obi Wan. On Tatooine, C3P0 is broken down, and young Anakin fixes him up with mechanical parts that he intended on using on an android he wanted to make on his own. Aside from that story change (which I think would've been awesomely cool, as I hate the current origin of C3PO), I'd make Anakin just a wee bit older, and the rest is as is.

AOTC. The same film, BUT... Now named EPISODE I, with Lucas properly re-editing the movie this time, giving it a better pace and the love story finally develops properly, too.

A new Episode II: The Clone Wars Animated micro series' storyline is used to construct this episode, with obviously a linear story that fits the rest of the saga nicely. Also, Palpatine's kidnaped, like in the end of CW, but the Jedi begin on searching for him, instead of immediately rescuing him. Would make a good parallel to V's cliffhanger.

ROTS: The exact same movie, only its been a year since Palpatine's been kidnapped. Ah, and the ending.... Aside from Qui Gon's dialogue obviously inserted, the ending would be quite different. As Obi Wan appears to that hideout planet (no "lost her will to live" crap), Obi Wan tells Bail Organa that Anakin's dead. Bail responds as to saying that reports have told him that he survived their fight. Obi Wan insists on Bail by saying that Anakin IS dead. He insists on seperating Anakin from Vader, because he doesn't the past of his good friend be spoiled. In other words, he wants to preserve his friend's past when he was Anakin, and not Vader. Afterwards, Bail Organa wouldn't blatantly say that he'd adapt one of the twins, because we don't know they're twins. The montage of Vader and the kids is different - by the moment Vader mechanically breaths, the hearing of a child crying is heard. Thats enough implication for the childs' having been born. Then, we see Yoda telling Obi Wan to hide in Tattooine and train young baby Skywalker. As Obi-Wan is escaping, two pre-Imperial fighters spot him, and with the order of killing Obi Wan, they blast the ship. Obi Want survives the crash, and seeks residence... to the Lars homestead. He tells them the kid is late Anakin's son, and Owen Lars takes the kid and forces Obi Wan out. He doesn't like Jedi and the fact that Anakin walked out on them after Schmi's death dissapointed him. Obi Wan walks out, understanding the kid needs to be with his family. He walks away like he did in the movie, initially. I would've liked the ending better this way, because there's at least the elements of surprise kept with Leia and all. Also, the identity of Anakin and his being dead by Vader is given a seed this way, as no one recalls Vader actually being Skywalker before. Only Yoda and Obi Wan know who Vader was before.

And thats about it with the prequels. Oh, and one other thing.

Since there's PROLOGUE, I, II, III, IV, V, and VI, there could've been an EPILOGUE afterwards, set 30-40 years after ROTJ, with Luke and Leia battling a Force-user who, much like Anakin, was conceived by the Midichlorians. Also, Anakin's ghost would seek to make ammends with Leia and Luke, seperately, before going away forever. I could expand the story if you want...

Anyway, thats how my plan for SW prequels AND an epilogue for OT would've been like. I respect Lucas' vision, but I think he could've used more ideas like, well, mine (said he, expecting the cry out "you're crap, Batman Beyond!" ). Anyway, wouldn't everyone like the above. Just tell me your opinion.

Well? What do you think?

 

[Kritish]

I wouldn't make those god awful films.

 

[Batman Beyond]

Gee, great respond!

 

[November Rain]

change anakin's decay to the dark side.

and also have his 'NOOOOO' as vader truelly destroying that entire complex he was standing in...

 

[Katsuro]

Make Anakin a likeable hero, as opposed to a whiny chump. Seriously, watch the OT and listen to the way Anakin is described. Then watch the PT, and watch Hayden Christensen whine about how nobody gets him and rush into battles unprepared.

They should've condensed the first movie into the first act of the second movie, and made that Episode I. In other words, Episode I starts with them finding Anakin on Tattoine, then flashes forward 10 years to the basic plot of Episode II. Then have Episode II develop Anakin as a heroic Jedi, and the third movie tell of his fall. He should've been a few years older when he fell to the darkside, or at least played by a less baby-faced actor.

Anakin should be someone you watch and hate knowing what'll become of him. He should be a guy you root for completely for the first 2 movies. It shouldn't be until the last film that he shows a darkside. And his motivation for turning shouldn't be to save Padme, since he obviously wasn't important enough to be brought up once during the entire OT. It should've been a general desire for power and control.

And he shouldn't have been so easily manipulated by Palpatine, or at least Palpatine should've been a better manipulator so as to make Anakin look less stupid. Anakin whines about how the Jedi are trying to destroy the Republic, when you know for damn sure that Palpatine was leading the Seperatists against the Republic!!! He was leading two armies against eachother so that he could gain more power to overtake it. He was flat out the cause of the war, and Anakin knew it. He was a tool.

So basically, the entire prequel trilogy should've been done differently. The changes I believe should've been made are so fundemental and basic, that the whole storyline would need to be rewritten. There'd be no Naboo or Trade Federation, and most characters would be entirely rewritten. They'd be very different movies entirely.

 

[Kurosawa]

First change? Ban all emo crying fanboys from watching any of the movies.

Next change? Require anyone who does watch the movies to read Othello first so they understand how a tragedy is written and what one is.

 

[Dr. Fate]

Make Anakin a likeable hero, as opposed to a whiny chump. Seriously, watch the OT and listen to the way Anakin is described. Then watch the PT, and watch Hayden Christensen whine about how nobody gets him and rush into battles unprepared.

They should've condensed the first movie into the first act of the second movie, and made that Episode I. In other words, Episode I starts with them finding Anakin on Tattoine, then flashes forward 10 years to the basic plot of Episode II. Then have Episode II develop Anakin as a heroic Jedi, and the third movie tell of his fall. He should've been a few years older when he fell to the darkside, or at least played by a less baby-faced actor.

Anakin should be someone you watch and hate knowing what'll become of him. He should be a guy you root for completely for the first 2 movies. It shouldn't be until the last film that he shows a darkside. And his motivation for turning shouldn't be to save Padme, since he obviously wasn't important enough to be brought up once during the entire OT. It should've been a general desire for power and control.

And he shouldn't have been so easily manipulated by Palpatine, or at least Palpatine should've been a better manipulator so as to make Anakin look less stupid. Anakin whines about how the Jedi are trying to destroy the Republic, when you know for damn sure that Palpatine was leading the Seperatists against the Republic!!! He was leading two armies against eachother so that he could gain more power to overtake it. He was flat out the cause of the war, and Anakin knew it. He was a tool.

So basically, the entire prequel trilogy should've been done differently. The changes I believe should've been made are so fundemental and basic, that the whole storyline would need to be rewritten. There'd be no Naboo or Trade Federation, and most characters would be entirely rewritten. They'd be very different movies entirely.

Agreed.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

First change? Ban all emo crying fanboys from watching any of the movies.

Next change? Require anyone who does watch the movies to read Othello first so they understand how a tragedy is written and what one is.

I've seen this a lot from people who liked the prequels. So defensive.

If someone likes them, I'll say, "No WAY, dude!" and list the factors, not the matters of opinion, but the elements that were just empirically traits of "bad movies". That's about it.

But prequel-lovers have this extra need to "ban" people who didn't like them, and to equate them with "whiners" or use all manner of insults, for people who're just Star Wars fans who enjoy analyzing and talking about the films, for good or for bad.
For instance, if all these decades later, you go on and on, still, about all of the things that make the movies so much more than movies, and your affection for the movies?....that's great.

But, if you also go on and on about ANYthing derogatory, the things that weren't great....then it's always, "This has been covered a million times. Stop your whining. You're a broken record.", etc.

I can't imagine in a hundred years ever even thinking along the lines of "BANNING" "Emo-Lucas-Zombies" from watching certain films or from saying, "Hey, I liked the prequels."

Pretty telling.

A person who preferred the good trilogy, that started in the 70's, often has a boatload of hate for Lucas, for JarJar, for Anakin, for Midichlorians, for scenes, situations, dialogue, effects, etc.

But pro-prequel people often have a seething hatred for anyone who threatens their world view by daring to have a strongly-held, but contrary opinion.

 

[Kent]

Require anyone who does watch the movies to read Othello first so they understand how a tragedy is written and what one is.

Yeah, that's amazing, the prequels follow the structure of a tragedy. Any movie that follows the structure of a tragedy must always be hailed as perfection. Movies that follow tragedy structure can have no flaws! No dissenters! Kill the non-believers!