So...Is brosnan's Bond dead?

[Agentsands77]

Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, none of them aged. The time of their actions is here and now. Ed McBain did the same for his 87th Precinth series, and if I am not mistaken so did Fleming in the novels.

Fleming did not do the same in the novels, for what its worth.

 

[Everyman]

Fleming did not do the same in the novels, for what its worth.

In the early novel, didn't he mentionned James Bond have his first car in the 1930s, which would have made him something like 10 years old? But maybe it was just an inconsistency.

 

[Blayton]

Judy Dinch should have been left out of this restart. Thats whats causing all this nonsense

 

[Manny Calavera]

I doubt most people would really care one way or the other. At the end of the day, he's still going to be called James Bond and will behave exactly like James Bond always has, even if you say "oh well he's actually a different guy", so why bother?

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I doubt most people would really care one way or the other. At the end of the day, he's still going to be called James Bond and will behave exactly like James Bond always has, even if you say "oh well he's actually a different guy", so why bother?

He will not be the same..according to the director himself.. Craigs bond is a little darker that the Book Bond..

can't wait to see what craig delivers..i'm starting to think hes going to be fantastic,

 

[SpyderDan]

Judy Dinch should have been left out of this restart. Thats whats causing all this nonsense

Exactly. They really screwed up.

 

[Darth_Shaggy22]

i always have thought of bond as the best agent that you can be so once once retires or dies, the next best agent gets the name of bond.


sean connerys bond retired so here comes the next 00 agent roger moore then so on and so on...hey it works in my mind

 

[The Batman]

ok...so in your mind....explain how all these different bonds have the exact same relationships with M, moneypenny, Felix lighter, and Q, how all of them have the same personality, and how all of them have a dead wife named tracy, how all of them have a preference for vodka martini shakin not stirred, how all of them were royal commanders before becoming agents

 

[SpyderDan]

i always have thought of bond as the best agent that you can be so once once retires or dies, the next best agent gets the name of bond.


sean connerys bond retired so here comes the next 00 agent roger moore then so on and so on...hey it works in my mind

So how do you explain how a different actor played Felix Leiter every movie?

 

[Manny Calavera]

He will not be the same..according to the director himself.. Craigs bond is a little darker that the Book Bond..

can't wait to see what craig delivers..i'm starting to think hes going to be fantastic,

I'm sure he did say that...and when you go see the movie, he's going to be exactly the same, with maybe one or two differences so subtle they need to be pointed out. Movies almost never take a risk like reinventing a character that was still making money these days.

 

[Agentsands77]

I'm sure he did say that...and when you go see the movie, he's going to be exactly the same, with maybe one or two differences so subtle they need to be pointed out. Movies almost never take a risk like reinventing a character that was still making money these days.

I've read the script.

The character *is* reinvented, at the very least in the sense that its a big disconnect from what we had with Brosnan, but its certainly more than that in that he brings a lot new to the table as well. He's not the winking sort of secret agent - he's very human. I guess it's somewhat similar to Dalton in that respect, but this Bond gets a lot more character development than Dalton's did. He's also more of a mysognist and b*stard than Dalton's Bond was, and he retains a sense of wit. This is definitely a more brutal, vicious 007 on top of that - all you have to do is see the footage of the action scenes to realize that.

 

[Darth_Shaggy22]

hey it sounded good in my head =p

i just dont get why M is in this movie i mean she showed up in goldeneye, and this is suppose to be his first mission..now im confused on that

 

[Agentsands77]

i just dont get why M is in this movie i mean she showed up in goldeneye, and this is suppose to be his first mission..now im confused on that

The best way to reconcile it is just to think of this M as a new character. It wouldn't be the first time an actor played two different roles within the franchise.

 

[BlackKnight1]

Ok, sorry guys but I have not seen a good explination of the M thing, except just ignore it. Yep typical there.

A friend of mine have talked about this, and came up with a good idea in my opinion.
Yes there have been multiple Bonds, but none of the Bonds realize this, they where taken in and brainwashed to believe they are Bond. This explains why M is still the same even though you should have a male M in Casino Royale.
I am sure you will all attack me for this idea, but I challenge you to explain why it is a bad one instead of just saying "it sucks".

 

[Agentsands77]

BlackKnight1, you want me to tell you why your idea sucks? Because it's the biggest piece of nonsensical, unfounded, ridiculous fanwankery ever.

Why do fans feel the need to make sense of things that don't? Why can't fans just embrace continuity errors, or just accept different continuities altogether? I'm amazed at how desperately people need to make sense out of this stuff.

 

[Everyman]

BlackKnight1, your theory sucks. James Bond is genuine, he is not a brainwashed secret agent (this would belong to sci-fi). besides, why would they give to 007 flaws and sometimes potentially dangerous behavior (womanizing, drinking, gambling, reluctance to obey authority) if James Bond was a tailored-made persona?

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

perhaps you could think that dench was the original women in charge..she went to another department..then came back..

Yeah that sucks as well.

 

[Everyman]

As Craig said, you have to use your suspension of disbelief. The codename theory is a ridiculous attempt to justifie all the continuity problems by turning James Bond into a puppet.

 

[SpyderDan]

I always considered each film more or less a standalone anyway.

 

[Agentsands77]

I always considered each film more or less a standalone anyway.

That's how I've always seen it. Or at the very least, each actor's tenure seems to standalone.

I've never bothered trying to fanwank the series into any sort of real continuity. It's like Batman in the comics - you have tons of different continuities running on at once, plenty of one-shot stories that don't fit, etc.

 

[Everyman]

That's how I've always seen it. Or at the very least, each actor's tenure seems to standalone.

I've never bothered trying to fanwank the series into any sort of real continuity. It's like Batman in the comics - you have tons of different continuities running on at once, plenty of one-shot stories that don't fit, etc.

I always took James Bond history like I take a comic book history: everything you see did happen, but maybe not like you saw it. James Bond is (or will be) a widower, whoever plays him, and he did fight Dr No, Goldfinger, etc. Of course, the Cold War element of a lot of Bond movies is a problem if one wants to put them in current continuity, but it is in no way more problematic than in comic books. And while we are comparing the two, I find it funny that the defendors of the condename theory never think that Batman/Bruce Wayne, Spider-Man/Peter Parker, Superman/Clark Kent, were codenames taken by different persons. Of course, that would be absurd, but so is the idea that James Bond is a codename taken by different persons who happen to share the same psychology, tastes and past than the previous owner.

 

[James"007"Bond]

can't wait to see what craig delivers..i'm starting to think hes going to be fantastic,

He will be.

 

[James"007"Bond]

Ok, sorry guys but I have not seen a good explination of the M thing, except just ignore it. Yep typical there.

A friend of mine have talked about this, and came up with a good idea in my opinion.
Yes there have been multiple Bonds, but none of the Bonds realize this, they where taken in and brainwashed to believe they are Bond. This explains why M is still the same even though you should have a male M in Casino Royale.
I am sure you will all attack me for this idea, but I challenge you to explain why it is a bad one instead of just saying "it sucks".

Its a sh1tty explanation because all logic and ounce of sense deems it so.

 

[xii22_loop]

r.i.p. brosnan bond

 

[Clouseau]

So...Is brosnan's Bond dead?

yep... probably killed by some stupid woman!