Solar radiation as a catalyst, you decide ?

[storyteller]

its a comic book. We can accept new gods, clones, magic boys turning into magic men, pokemon. I think we can accept yellow sunlight. Also did blue sunlight grant superman the ability to bestow upon humans superman powers on that bizzarro planet.

 

[The Leaguer]

I don't accept Pokemon.

 

[Comrade]

Not even in Smash Bros.?

 

[The Leaguer]

Especially Smash.

 

[Comrade]

Sir, you are a filthy liar. Twice no less in the same thread. I challenge you to a gentleman's duel.

 

[The Leaguer]

What's the matter, scared?

 

[Comrade]

It's show time!

 

[The Leaguer]

I'm the one who's gonna take you down.

 

[WompuM]

****s going down!

 

[SouLeSS]

Wow.

 

[yahman]

Is that what I said? No, it's not. Pseudoscientific explanations are fine, but don't go all Warren Ellis on me. You'll end up missing the forest for the trees.
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What do you mean ?

 

[Anubis]

Stop over thinking s**t.

 

[fifthfiend]

Either some form of mass to energy transfer, making his cells 'LIVING SUNS' or your standard link to vacuum/zero point/dark energy. Or maybe some sort of Unified theory link, i.e. his cells release the energy from curled up higher dimensions, which also contain Gravitons.

And then they can give him ELECTRIC POWERS!!!!!!!!

 

[Aristotle]

So yahman, what's your new-and-better-brave-new-world idea for making Captain Marvel more scientific? Or Green Lantern? Or Dr. ****ity Fate?

 

[yahman]

So yahman, what's your new-and-better-brave-new-world idea for making Captain Marvel more scientific? Or Green Lantern? Or Dr. ****ity Fate?

Green Lantern = Guardians a have figured out way of manipulating the realm of the meta physics. And as described by George Berkley, energy is nothing more than ideas. The ring allows the Lanterns to transform ideas into a plasma, which is then controlled by magnetic field. [See George Berkleys Idealism, Michu Kacku's science of the Impossible]

Magic = Energy/Ideas that originate from the Plato's land of the forms. They are the Forms version of chaos/or irrationality. The intrinsic properties of this energy allow it seep from the confinements of the Forms realm, into our own (like Gravity does, form higher dimensions). As the Cognito/Mind is aware of this realm, the human mind/soul (sort of Proven by Descartes Distinction argument) is aware of this chaotic energy/ideas and therefore (in some cases) able to manipulate it. 'Irrational energy', can manipulate what we consider the predictable rational world. As pointed out by Hume, the idea of cause and effect is only a human interpretation. There is no logical means of proving that an effect will follow a cause. 'Irrational energy' can prevent this course of action from occuring. Only minds, and artificially created artefacts can manipulate the irrational, because of our connection to the land of the forms (predicted by Plato), and are observation of the irrational in dreams. Although this 'irrational energy' has never been empirically observed (again, due to it intrinsic chaotic nature) its affects upon our universe have been sited. For example key D.C. scientist believe it is responsible for the observation problem experienced in quantum mechanics. (See Plato's land of the forms, Peter Susskind, string theory scientist, In search of Schroedinger's cat)

Captain Marvels Body is made up of the Dna of Gods (who originate from Plato's idealistic land of the forms), and is able to metabolise this 'irrational energy'.

Doctor Fate; Not only is master of 'irrational energy' AKA magic, he has a pocket 2D universe, (made completely out of words) contained within his amulet. He uses this universes huge energies in accordance with his 'irrational energy' skills. (Michu Kacku's hypers space ....)

Fair enough you have avery good point, but I think my explanations sound a LOT cooler than 'yellow sun radiation'.

 

[fifthfiend]

Are you sure you aren't secretly Warren Ellis?

 

[yahman]

Stop over thinking s**t.

I do philosophy at Uni, its what i do. Hence being the most annoying person on the planet, when drunk, sobber etc.

Until they bann me from the internet, you'll have to deal with my paradoxical crap.

 

[yahman]

Are you sure you aren't secretly Warren Ellis?

Thats the greatest compliment i have ever received ever !

Here's cyber space blow job

 

[fifthfiend]

Thats the greatest compliment i have ever received ever !

Then you didn't read Gah Lak Tus.

Either that or you did read it and liked it?

****, that's kind of terrifying.

Also - **** Plato's Land of Forms. **** it right in its intrinsically perfect ear.

 

[WompuM]

wow. offended.

 

[yahman]

Also - **** Plato's Land of Forms. **** it right in its intrinsically perfect ear.

I agree its crap, but I think it sound quite cool.

I think magic is basically the opposite of inductional logic. There is no real reason for the Inductive world to be the way it is. In other words what if there is a possible realm where things don't make rational sense. If energy (movement) existed in this realm, then surely its cahotic nature would allow it to crossover to our rational reality. Whose to say what irrational energy would do in a rational reality.

 

[yahman]

Then you didn't read Gah Lak Tus.

Either that or you did read it and liked it?

****, that's kind of terrifying.

Also - **** Plato's Land of Forms. **** it right in its intrinsically perfect ear.

Read it and LOVED it. The idea any way. I though the execution was quite poor, but the idea of Galactus as a Hive mind borg esq creature was 'orgasmic' IMO.

Hive mind robots >>>>>>>>> Giant wearing Purple Helmet. IMO

 

[Aristotle]

Green Lantern = Guardians a have figured out way of manipulating the realm of the meta physics. And as described by George Berkley, energy is nothing more than ideas. The ring allows the Lanterns to transform ideas into a plasma, which is then controlled by magnetic field. [See George Berkleys Idealism, Michu Kacku's science of the Impossible]

Why do you hate the emotional spectrum again? I mean, that's basically just a hoity-toity way of describing what the GL mythos already is.

Magic = Energy/Ideas that originate from the Plato's land of the forms. They are the Forms version of chaos/or irrationality. The intrinsic properties of this energy allow it seep from the confinements of the Forms realm, into our own (like Gravity does, form higher dimensions). As the Cognito/Mind is aware of this realm, the human mind/soul (sort of Proven by Descartes Distinction argument) is aware of this chaotic energy/ideas and therefore (in some cases) able to manipulate it. 'Irrational energy', can manipulate what we consider the predictable rational world. As pointed out by Hume, the idea of cause and effect is only a human interpretation. There is no logical means of proving that an effect will follow a cause. 'Irrational energy' can prevent this course of action from occuring. Only minds, and artificially created artefacts can manipulate the irrational, because of our connection to the land of the forms (predicted by Plato), and are observation of the irrational in dreams. Although this 'irrational energy' has never been empirically observed (again, due to it intrinsic chaotic nature) its affects upon our universe have been sited. For example key D.C. scientist believe it is responsible for the observation problem experienced in quantum mechanics. (See Plato's land of the forms, Peter Susskind, string theory scientist, In search of Schroedinger's cat)

Why is any of that necessary when, again, all it does is put more sharply defined words on existing concepts?

Fair enough you have avery good point, but I think my explanations sound a LOT cooler than 'yellow sun radiation'.

They sound like nothing anyone would ever want to read in a comic book, frankly.

 

[Aristotle]

I agree its crap, but I think it sound quite cool.

I think magic is basically the opposite of inductional logic. There is no real reason for the Inductive world to be the way it is. In other words what if there is a possible realm where things don't make rational sense. If energy (movement) existed in this realm, then surely its cahotic nature would allow it to crossover to our rational reality. Whose to say what irrational energy would do in a rational reality.

Yes, that's a very intriguing concept, and one I enjoy kicking around in my head every once in awhile over a splif, or perhaps just over a bag of chips. But why should that have anything to do with Captain Marvel? What does that add to Captain Marvel?

The problem is that you don't actually provide "real-world" solutions to these questions. You provide solutions that are, in your view, "realer." But, not to oversimplify, false is false. Your solutions are no more likely to happen in real life than the existing DCU is, because they are both basically impossible. So when the current form of Superman is just as unreal as your idea of Superman, why is your form better? The current form has decades of tradition and fun to back it up; your form has nothing, because it has not truly made the story realistic, it has only shifted the falsehood.

 

[fifthfiend]

Hive mind robots >>>>>>>>> Giant wearing Purple Helmet. IMO

You should put that in your sig, so that next time I'm tempted to argue with you I'll remember that there is simply no way either of us will ever agree about anything.

I'll probably still argue with you but at least I'll know from the get-go how utterly futile an endeavor it will be.