Solar radiation as a catalyst, you decide ?

What is it with you and these completely ******ed oversimplifications of powers? SUPERMAN IS A SOLAR PANEL! GREEN LANTERNS ARE PREGNANT WOMEN! OH NOES! It's like your brain just comes up with the most ludicrous comparisons that make the least sense in any sort of context whatsoever.

"Lulz Captain Marvel's powers work like a lightbulb switch so it's like all these people are being beaten by a lightbulb LULZLULZLULZLULZLULZ"


They're called exaggerations , they emphasise the absurdity of the explanations.

P.S. if you read the post before carefully you'll see that Superman is BASICALLY a solar panel. You can't get around it. Superman absorbs solar energy, and then stores it to be used in a diffrent form. What else does this ?...... OH yeah a solar panel. The analogy stands. your lack of insight doesn't make it otherwise
 
Byrne's not the one who came up with the idea of Superman being fueled by the sun. :huh:
If you're going to whine, at least get the facts straight.


I think you'll find he did. Pre Crisis Superman wsn't feuled by sunlight, he used the rays as a catalyst for some internal power source. Bryne came up with the idea of a 'Living Solar battery'.
 
Yeah good one, via your 'logic' i suppose that humans are burgers, or pies or maybe ice cream.

you're one of the people who thinks Superman has the power of an enitre Star. Your basically saying that If i put a solar panel on top of my roof ( 25 % efficient) it would absorb a quarter of the suns entire power. One quarter of the suns power ? Thats a **** load of power for one house ! I suppose when 8 houses have the same solar panels, the amount of energy given out by the sun, doubles ? That is what you are saying by comparing Superman's power to an entire Sun. If this is the case how the **** did he get all the energy ? Or have you forgotten that light travel in straight lines ? he can only absorb the light that travels directly onto him. When you consider that the entire earth gets about one billionth of the Sun's solar energy , and humans are more than trillion times smaller than the earth, you start to get an idea off how little energy Superman is getting.

This amount of Solar energy would barelypower a tank, let a lone move planet. For some reason, people think that because Superman is a 'Living Solar battery' he's inexplicably able to absorb a good percentage of the Suns radiation. This is crap ! In other words Superman is a highly effective solar panel. He absorbs sunlight at rate of about 100 %. Yet this is still a tiny amount of energy.

The other explanation that people preach is that Superman is able to absorb the energy and then 'MAGICALLY' make it do more than it possibly can. In other words people are saying that if Superman ate a burger, he have enough power to blow up a mountain range. This just doesn't make sense. If he can magically duplicate energy, why does he bother absorbing Sunlight in the first place ? If there is some magical process going on in his cells, why don't the writers make reference to it ? Oh yeah they're generally as ignorant as too this aswell.
 
Yeah good one, via your 'logic' i suppose that humans are burgers, or pies or maybe ice cream.

you're one of the MORONS who thinks Superman has the power of an enitre Star. Your basically saying that If i put a solar panel on top of my roof ( 25 % efficient) it would absorb a quarter of the suns entire power. One quarter of the suns power ? Thats a **** load of power for one house ! I suppose when 8 houses have the same solar panels, the amount of energy given out by the sun, doubles ? That is what you are saying by comparing Superman's power to an entire Sun. If this is the case how the **** did he get all the energy ? Or have you forgotten that light travel in straight lines ? he can only absorb the light that travels directly onto him. When you consider that the entire earth gets about one billionth of the Sun's solar energy , and humans are more than trillion times smaller than the earth, you start to get an idea off how little energy Superman is getting.

This amount of Solar energy would barelypower a tank, let a lone move planet. For some ******ed reason people think that because Superman is a 'Living Solar battery' he's inexplicably able to absorb a good percentage of the Suns radiation. This is crap ! In other words Superman is a highly effective solar panel. He absorbs sunlight at rate of about 100 %. Yet this is still a tiny amount of energy.

The other crap that people preach is that Superman is able to absorb the energy and then 'MAGICALLY' make it do more than it possibly can. In other words people are saying that if Superman ate a burger, he have enough power to blow up a mountain range. This just doesn't make sense. If he can magically duplicate energy, why does he bother absorbing Sunlight in the first place ? If there is some magical process going on in his cells, why don't the writers make reference to it ? Oh yeah they're generally as ignorant as this cretin I'm replying too.

Hey, you know something, I was having some fun with this little debate. I used analogies like you did, and even used some of that math stuff I learned in high school to try and prove my point. Then you start insulting me.

Lighten up. We're talking about Superman.
 
Hey, you know something, I was having some fun with this little debate. I used analogies like you did, and even used some of that math stuff I learned in high school to try and prove my point. Then you start insulting me.

Lighten up. We're talking about Superman.


Sorry, I was a littel angry. Bad day. I'll edit out the insults.

I've love it how there is no time limit on the edit function, on this site.

Sorry about earlier, my time of the month ....
 
I think you'll find he did. Pre Crisis Superman wsn't feuled by sunlight, he used the rays as a catalyst for some internal power source. Bryne came up with the idea of a 'Living Solar battery'.
"As a catalyst for an internal power source?" Do you have any proof of this concept anywhere, stating the differences in it, between pre and post Byrne? :huh:

You really shouldn't be overthinking this that much. Fact: Even with the DCU Earth's technology and scientific knowledge being hundreds of years beyond the real world's, Superman's biology still defies their understanding of science (which is why cloning him will always result in an imperfect duplicate), so how could some 'Science of Superheroes' book or movie ever hope to explain it? If there were an explanation of his powers in the real world, it will make Lex Luthor and some of the world's greatest scientific minds look like morons for not figuring it out in a comic world that has all of the real world's scientific knowledge and much more.
 
"As a catalyst for an internal power source?" Do you have any proof of this concept anywhere, stating the differences in it, between pre and post Byrne? :huh:

You really shouldn't be overthinking this that much. Fact: Even with the DCU Earth's technology and scientific knowledge being hundreds of years beyond the real world's, Superman's biology still defies their understanding of science (which is why cloning him will always result in an imperfect duplicate), so how could some 'Science of Superheroes' book or movie ever hope to explain it? If there were an explanation of his powers in the real world, it will make Lex Luthor and some of the world's greatest scientific minds look like morons for not figuring it out in a comic world that has all of the real world's scientific knowledge and much more.

Yeah, but there is theoretical science created for a lot things that haven't be constructed yet. For example there is a frame work for a time machine, and a device that allows for FTL travel. Theoretical science is sometimes centuries more advanced than technology science. The fact is theoretical science, can provide a decent explanation for superman's powers without the need of him violating the rules of Thermodynamics (which he currently is). Most agree that thermodynamics is the most profound rule in science, as its the basis of cause and effect. As life is basically all about cause and effect, thermodynamics applies to everything. In other words by saying Superman can violate the rules of thermodynamics you are saying he can violate cause and effect. This just isn't rational.

For example, I let the respectable Flashes get away with violating the laws of Thermodynamics because they have a hyper Dimensional device allowing them to violate it. As we cant say for certain that Thermodynamics applies to higher Dimensions, and higher dimensions are predicted by string theory, it provides a semi decent explanation. The current living solar battery idea, is impossible not just physically but rationally as well. And I just hate the fact that most comic book fans are willing to accept this.

Back to your original point, I don't think anyone will ever have the science to back up a violation of thermodynamics, because it would cause consequential collapse of cause and effect. If cause and effect isn't true, then we are seriously ****ed, in all departments ! Infact the sentence i just used, would no longer make any sense:
“I don't think anyone will ever have the science to back up a violation of thermodynamics, because it would cause consequential collapse of cause and effect”
Notice the use of the word cause. Without cause and effect this sentence becomes meaningless. In other words Luthor and co will never be able to show that Superman can violate the laws of thermodynamics because all language, thought, actions, events etc will be made meaningless in the process. This isn't real world logic, this is just logic. If youre saying that logic shouldn't be applied to comics, then youre in for some ****ty stories !

I can guarantee you won't agree with this, but its just how I see things. I think Superman is the most iconic Super hero out there, and I think its a shame that theoretical science could be used to explain his powers, but no one can be bothered to incorporate it.
 
I liked this thread better when we were all quoting Jurassic Park.


...they should all be destroyed.
 
I liked this thread better when we were all quoting Jurassic Park.


...they should all be destroyed.
I could go for some of those quotes right now. At the moment, it's like talking to a brick wall in here.

...That is one big pile of ****.
 
How do you know they're all female? Does someone go into the park and lift up their skirts?
 
But all they really emphasize is the absurdity of your exaggerations.

Translation; 'Nah .... your gay !'

Please state where my examples are exaggerations ?
Don't move! It can't see you if you don't move!

No one is making you post on here, and so far your input has amounted to;

But I don't understand ?...But I don't understand ?....But I don't understand ? I don't understand ?...But I don't understand ? I don't understand ? I don't understand ? I don't understand ? I don't understand ? I don't understand ? I don't understand ?

there's only so many ways you can type the same thing. if this thread is really bothering, it would be appreciated if you went away and had some 'you' time.
 
I liked this thread better when we were all quoting Jurassic Park.


...they should all be destroyed.

I love how everyone here thinks their a comedian.

The only slightly funny person to have ever read a comic, is Simon Peg.
Yet everyone on comic book forums think they're hilarious. I wonder why that is ?
 
Because your sense of humor is as bad as your opinions?
 
Because your sense of humor is as bad as your opinions?

So you actually think you're funny ?

Your so funny that you spend mots of your life on a COMICBOOK forum instead of using your humour to get laid. If you don't think you can get laid with a good sense of humour, then your not funny enough.

Also whose to say what is a bad opinion or a good opinion? IMO there is no meta physical truths as to good or bad opinions. If there was it wouldn't be decided by someone who has made over 25, 000 posts on a comic book forum. Hows it been living your life out on the internet btw ?

~waits for remarks about bad spelling, because Anubis is desperate~
 
This is hilarious, probably unintentionally so.
 
Probably.

...or is it???

Yeah, it is.
 
So you actually think you're funny ?

Your so funny that you spend mots of your life on a COMICBOOK forum instead of using your humour to get laid. If you don't think you can get laid with a good sense of humour, then your not funny enough.

Also whose to say what is a bad opinion or a good opinion? IMO there is no meta physical truths as to good or bad opinions. If there was it wouldn't be decided by someone who has made over 25, 000 posts on a comic book forum. Hows it been living your life out on the Internet btw ?

~waits for remarks about bad spelling, because Anubis is desperate~


Actually, I spend lots of time here talking about comics because at work, I have a computer with Internet access, and not a lot to do. So for the seven hours I'm sitting in front of my computer, I can sit around making dick jokes and making fun of losers who think they're oh so clever pulling the "No Life" card while they ignore the fact that, hey, they're here too....talking about fictional characters that run around with their underwear on the outside of their pants....but you know, whatever. :o
 
You think they'll have that on the tour?
 
Actually, I spend lots of time here talking about comics because at work, I have a computer with Internet access, and not a lot to do. So for the seven hours I'm sitting in front of my computer, I can sit around making dick jokes and making fun of losers who think they're oh so clever pulling the "No Life" card while they ignore the fact that, hey, they're here too....talking about fictional characters that run around with their underwear on the outside of their pants....but you know, whatever. :o
You ever tried wearing your undies on the outside? It's comfy, man.
 

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