Spider-man has saved the world? I thought he's saved New York. What stories has he saved the world, as in the Earth?
I like Spider-man but I have never thought or considered him to be a world saving hero. He's a street level character and street level heros aren't world saving heros.
Now Captain America and Iron Man as past and founding members of the Avengers are and would be world saving heros. Wolverine would be a world saving hero due to being apart of the X-men. Luke Cage and Spider-woman aren't world saving heros. Sentry can and should be one though.
I agree, Spidey is apart of a team and as such he isn't going to always be in the spotlight. Also he isn't going to be the only one supplying ideas. He isn't going to be the only smart person there. He most certainly isn't going to be the most experience or knowledgeable. Especailly around people like Iron Man and Captain America. Lets not forget that he has three solo titles already. He's a member yes, which is a great thing I feel but he doesn't have to be the center of attention.
I think he's out of his league at times during Avenger arcs and honestly I think he should be since I don't think he's used to doing things like this. Tony was right at the Senate. It wasn't that Peter's opinion wasn't valuable just that Tony understand that it wouldn't have matter due to the nature of things and how they are done. That's what it comes down to and that's how that situation played out. Anyone reading that scene can tell what Peter said was good and write but government doesn't always care what is right. They care about following the proper steps and Spidey clearly didn't in that situation and Tony knew it which is why he didn't want Peter going off and doing something like he did. That's why he shook his head cause he knew it wasn't going to do anything to the peopel they were talking to cause Tony most likely deals with people like that all the time in business and politics.
I don't see Peter as a yesman at all. He knows this is Tony's area and he lets Tony do his thing and respects his opinion. As smart as Peter is, he isn't a political person and isn't in politics. Just because he's an extremely smart guy doesn't mean he's going to pick up things right away or even fully understand an area unknown to him. Which is why people listen and learn in order to understand things. Which is what Peter needs to do if he's going to be employee by Tony and be his second. The whole situation seemed out of Peter's area, not to mention TOny has decent number of years on Peter in terms of experience, why shouldn't Tony have a better understand of the entire situation and bigger picture?
I like Spider-man but I have never thought or considered him to be a world saving hero. He's a street level character and street level heros aren't world saving heros.
Now Captain America and Iron Man as past and founding members of the Avengers are and would be world saving heros. Wolverine would be a world saving hero due to being apart of the X-men. Luke Cage and Spider-woman aren't world saving heros. Sentry can and should be one though.
I agree, Spidey is apart of a team and as such he isn't going to always be in the spotlight. Also he isn't going to be the only one supplying ideas. He isn't going to be the only smart person there. He most certainly isn't going to be the most experience or knowledgeable. Especailly around people like Iron Man and Captain America. Lets not forget that he has three solo titles already. He's a member yes, which is a great thing I feel but he doesn't have to be the center of attention.
I think he's out of his league at times during Avenger arcs and honestly I think he should be since I don't think he's used to doing things like this. Tony was right at the Senate. It wasn't that Peter's opinion wasn't valuable just that Tony understand that it wouldn't have matter due to the nature of things and how they are done. That's what it comes down to and that's how that situation played out. Anyone reading that scene can tell what Peter said was good and write but government doesn't always care what is right. They care about following the proper steps and Spidey clearly didn't in that situation and Tony knew it which is why he didn't want Peter going off and doing something like he did. That's why he shook his head cause he knew it wasn't going to do anything to the peopel they were talking to cause Tony most likely deals with people like that all the time in business and politics.
I don't see Peter as a yesman at all. He knows this is Tony's area and he lets Tony do his thing and respects his opinion. As smart as Peter is, he isn't a political person and isn't in politics. Just because he's an extremely smart guy doesn't mean he's going to pick up things right away or even fully understand an area unknown to him. Which is why people listen and learn in order to understand things. Which is what Peter needs to do if he's going to be employee by Tony and be his second. The whole situation seemed out of Peter's area, not to mention TOny has decent number of years on Peter in terms of experience, why shouldn't Tony have a better understand of the entire situation and bigger picture?