The Amazing Spider-Man "SPIDER-MAN 4 Production on Indefinite Hold "....NOT!...or Maybe?

[spider-neil]

There are plenty of talented directors who would happily take a fat pay check to do a Lizard/Kraven movie. Let them do it and give Raimi the boot.

I hate myself for saying this but I'd rather see a lizard movie directed by someone else than a vulture movie directed by raimi.

 

[MadVillainy]

Me (as Sony exec): Alright Sam, we screwed the pooch with Spiderman 3 but we're gonna bounce back with four
Raimi: Yep.
Me: What ideas do you have
Raimi: I'm thinking of having Vulture-
Me: Get out

I hate myself for saying this but I'd rather see a lizard movie directed by someone else than a vulture movie directed by raimi.

I agree too. Its not that I dont like Raimi at all or that I though SM3 was so bad that there needs to be a reboot. But Vulture just seems really lame to me.

 

[spider-neil]

Me (as Sony exec): Alright Sam, we screwed the pooch with Spiderman 3 but we're gonna bounce back with four
Raimi: Yep.
Me: What ideas do you have
Raimi: I'm thinking of having Vulture-
Me: Get out

t:

I agree too. Its not that I dont like Raimi at all or that I though SM3 was so bad that there needs to be a reboot. But Vulture just seems really lame to me.

totally lame, especially when the seeds of a great movie have already been sown with dylan as conners.
it's not fair that as a spidey fan I have to gaze enviously at TDK, the thor cast and the iron man trailer especially when the same director delivered the excellent SM2.

 

[MadVillainy]

Man, I was looking at the IM2 trailer and was thinking why cant this happen to a Wally West Flash, Wonder Woman, Black Panther, or even Superman movie

 

[zeptron]

Me (as Sony exec): Alright Sam, we screwed the pooch with Spiderman 3 but we're gonna bounce back with four
Raimi: Yep.
Me: What ideas do you have
Raimi: I'm thinking of having Vulture-
Me: Get out

Even though I don't mind Vulture I did find this funny.t:


The worst case scenario would be this.

Raimi: "This what I want to do for SM4. I want to.."

Sony exec: "Screw that! Put in Lizard, Carnage, and Black Cat or else!"

 

[MadVillainy]

I mean it would be bad if they forced any of them. But at least with Lizard the ground work has been laid down for him to appear

Also even though I dont like vampire Moribus wouldnt be bad either to pair with Lizard. 2 monster villains would be cool. But they need to make one of them straight evil (preferably Moribus). I dont want another sympathetic villain

 

[TheFuture]

I don't buy the story, for Raimi to sign up for another film knowing that the studio could dictate to him again, sorry I don't buy it.

 

[Reikowolf]

really sony?

You're paying Sam Raimi to direct a movie, why would you not trust in his decisions? Even if you got your way, he will be less than enthusiastic to bring it to life during principle. Look at what happened in SM3. Take your hands out of the pot and let the Director direct the movie!

If you're not happy with his decision making, then hire someone else.

Raimi had full control over SM1-SM2, and they were good movies.

It looks like the reigns of the franchise are being pulled away from Raimi; if I were him, I would put it on the table that he either gets his way, or walks.

Either he gets to do his SM4, or they reboot/retool the franchise.

 

[zeptron]

I mean it would be bad if they forced any of them. But at least with Lizard the ground work has been laid down for him to appear

Also even though I dont like vampire Moribus wouldnt be bad either to pair with Lizard. 2 monster villains would be cool. But they need to make one of them straight evil (preferably Moribus). I dont want another sympathetic villain

Ehh..I prefer they don't use two monster type villains. It would be like "Oh no Lizard is on the run! And oh no Morbius is on the run too!" I want a more complex story than that.

Besides how many vampire movies and tv shows are floating around these days anyway? Morbius should be one of the last villains used. Especially when more unique villains can be done.

One of the reasons why I want Lizard and Electro is because the blackout idea someone came up with. It can make Lizard more scary and because of the blackout Peter could have a hard time finding a cure for Connors.

 

[Reikowolf]

Hmm, that being said, it would be interesting to see Raimi's Spider-Man take on a villain he can't reason with. See the extent he'd go to in order to stop him.

Might have made a great arc with Norman Osborn.

 

[Nathan]

really sony?

You're paying Sam Raimi to direct a movie, why would you not trust in his decisions? Even if you got your way, he will be less than enthusiastic to bring it to life during principle. Look at what happened in SM3. Take your hands out of the pot and let the Director direct the movie!

You know, this is pretty sad, either he gets what he wants, or he'll do an half assed job. If that's his attitude, they should get a new director. We might even get a Spider-Man that's actually fun.

Raimi had full control over SM1-SM2, and they were good movies.

They also didn't have lame villains. So far we had Green Goblin 1 & 2, Doc Ock, Sandman, Venom. Now with the 4th franchise in the Movie, he wants to introduce the Vulture as the main villain? Secondary, ok. But main? A old fragile man that flies?

It looks like the reigns of the franchise are being pulled away from Raimi; if I were him, I would put it on the table that he either gets his way, or walks.

Either he gets to do his SM4, or they reboot/retool the franchise.

Then I hope he walks. I never liked his Peter Parker or Mary Jane anyway.

 

[Reikowolf]

Hmm, that being said, it would be interesting to see Raimi's Spider-Man take on a villain he can't reason with. See the extent he'd go to in order to stop him.

Might have made a great arc with Norman Osborn.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The movie is going to flop. Any time you have directors and studios butting heads that is pretty much the end result. If they don't think Vulture will carry the film... why not just add Electro or someone else? I say kill the project entirely, ditch Raimi and start a new trilogy.

 

[I_am_iron_man]

I think that they will put Black Cat/Vulturess and Raimi doesn't want.

 

[TheFuture]

I'd say they want Morbius for obvious (and misguided) reasons.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think that they will put Black Cat/Vulturess and Raimi doesn't want.

This is all Sony's fault from SM3 on... I don't hold any grudges on Raimi other than his shortcomings in SM3, which was due to studio/fan pressure. The rogue gallery is so deep yet they outdo themselves in SM3 and have nothing to follow that up. It's sad it had to come to this. Hopefully for the better. Obviously the cast will probably walk along with Raimi unless Sony just opens up the pay check, but I can't imagine they won't get something worked out here. Lizard, Kraven and be done with it.

 

[zeptron]

I'd say they want Morbius for obvious (and misguided) reasons.

It wouldn't surprise of they wanted to use him just to hop on the vampire bandwagon. The vampire thing has been done to death recently. You don't jump on something at the end of a fad. You start a new fad.

 

[Symbiotic]

This REALLY pisses me off. They wouldn't let Raimi do 3 the way he wanted, then they agree to free reign for 4, and go back on it. Why do they have to be the new 20th Century Fox? All about the money, never about the movie. If I was Raimi, I would seriously try to find a way out of whatever contract I've signed.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Sony needs to get this movie out though, since they may be forced to renegotiate with Disney if they don't hit that date. They have to work something out. Raimi needs to be reasonable though. You can't have a movie with just Vulture and Vultress.

 

[bullets]

This could be a tragic day for the people of New York. It could be the end of Spider-Man.

 

[Eggyman]

This REALLY pisses me off. They wouldn't let Raimi do 3 the way he wanted, then they agree to free reign for 4, and go back on it. Why do they have to be the new 20th Century Fox? All about the money, never about the movie. If I was Raimi, I would seriously try to find a way out of whatever contract I've signed.

But what if the movie Raimi is planning to make is just really bad - sure, you could put that down to loss of money... but with it you get a sh** film. Either way I see this, it's bad.

 

[SpideyZERO]

Is it possible that this is because of Sony trying to stop Raimi from using the Vulture AND the Vulturess?

 

[Chewy]

Sony needs to get this movie out though, since they may be forced to renegotiate with Disney if they don't hit that date. They have to work something out. Raimi needs to be reasonable though. You can't have a movie with just Vulture and Vultress.

I think Sony's deal is different than Fox's; I recall that Sony had to pay Marvel some sum of cash a a year or two ago to keep the rights.

 

[LEGO Spidey]

Vulture isn't "a fragile old man with wings", his strength is nearly on par with Spidey's, he flies faster than Spidey can swing and easily outmaneuvers him in the air, and has razor-sharp wings that have been shown to cut through Spidey's webbing in nearly every incarnation I can remember. The first Spidey comic I ever read was the Clifton Shallot Vulture issue(s), and so the character has a special spot in my heart. Raimi can make a great movie out of him. Just step back and let the man work his mojo.

 

[david icke]

I think this is good news, better they get it right, this Vulture/Vulturess thing did not sound like a good idea. I always wanted Lizard, with Vulture as back up/not much backstory villan.
Hopefully it will not be held up for long and a decision can be made, but something tells me we will no longer be getting this Vulturess idea anyway, which is very good news.