The Amazing Spider-Man "SPIDER-MAN 4 Production on Indefinite Hold "....NOT!...or Maybe?

[Nathan]

Regardless what you think of Vulture (personally, I don't think too much of him), I do think that maybe Sony should lay off the micro-managment. The article is making it as if (key word...if)Sony is pulling a Fox. Besides, it didn't help them with Spidey 3.

But how much is Sony to blame for SM3? Yes, we know they wanted Venom in, but was it their fault that SM3 ended up as cheesy as it did? Or that Sandman just had bad luck, wanted to save his daughter and was the actual murderer of uncle Ben?

 

[Carlo Comicus]

Aint It Cool News said they heard the same thing.

We first heard murmurs about this a few days ago, but didn't have enough specifics to post anything worthwhile.

 

[Jick]

This may or may not be a good thing. What if Sony tries to force Carnage in the movie?

But didn't the source say that they're looking for which ever character is selling the books right now?
Carnage is long gone, unless he returned and I'm unaware, which is unlikely;

 

[Nathan]

After Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom, there are NO spider-man villains POPULAR enough to carry a film alone. None. Many of us here are comic fans. WE like Mysterio, Kraven, Lizard, etc. but regular folks...don't. Heck even those that like them don't think they can carry their own flick. Sandman got in because he was flanked by another Goblin and Venom. If he was alone, the same debate would've erupted about him. Compared to Batman or even the X-men, Spidey has a weak villains gallery.

Yeah, after the first 3 Movies, it's difficult to find some A-material for the 4th one. I actually wouldn't mind if they introduce someone like Tombstone, Kingpin or who else we've got, and have Spider-Man face several superpowered thugs or mercenaries. Similar to Spectacular Spider-Man. I'd actually like to see Shocker in a movie.

 

[spider-neil]

who says lizard can't carry a movie by himself? of course he can.

there is the conflict of spidey and lizard
there is the conflict of curt and his family
there is the conflict of peter and curt
there is the conflict of spidey and the police (as spidey wants to save his friend but the police want to take lizard out)

the thing practically writes itself

 

[Symbiotic]

If Sony really has some rule of "villains with human faces only", they should have no problem with Vulture.

 

[spider-neil]

first act

curt gains his hand in an experiement
family are introduced
peter becomes full time lab assistant

2nd act
lizard is born
attacks people of new york
police called in to stop menace
spidey blamed for attacks

3rd act
lizard has plan to change new yorkers into lizards like himself
3 way battle with the police/spidey and the lizard

that's even without any subplot of peter and mj and jjj and the bugle

 

[SpideyTheBest]

First they wouldn't let him do Vulture in the 3rd one(which would have been great considering what they were planning to do with him but I really need to give it a rest now) and now they wouldn't want him do it for the 4th one? I agree, having the Vulture as the only villain will NOT work, but, if there was another villain with him(NOT THE VULTURESS!!!!) like Lizard or Electro, it will be great! Remember that Raimi said he would like to do Vulture and Electro in SM4?

 

[SuperHeroHype]

Not true;
http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8930

 

[Carlo Comicus]

Yeah!!!!

I was right!!!

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

oh man I KNEW IT!

 

[zeptron]

who says lizard can't carry a movie by himself? of course he can.

there is the conflict of spidey and lizard
there is the conflict of curt and his family
there is the conflict of peter and curt
there is the conflict of spidey and the police (as spidey wants to save his friend but the police want to take lizard out)

the thing practically writes itself

It would probably end up being a bit similar to SM2. Most of Lizard's story was already given to Doc Ock(His family, accident gone bad etc) Octavius was Peter's friend in a way, for a brief moment, he inspired him, he taught Peter a moral lesson in the begging and then an accident turned him a monster. Not carrying for other people's lives, only doing the thing he believes is right. In the end he was 'cured' and he redeemed himself. Lizard's story is quite the same as this one. In short: a good doctor, who is Peter's friend and mentor turns into a monster and Spider-Man must stop him.

That story would not work. Maybe it will in the fan community, but the general public would not accept it. It would feel as the same story told with only different characters.

And plus a lot people are tired of sympathetic villains. It's inevitable with the Lizard. That's why a lot of us prefer another villain who's really evil to go along with him.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Thank god.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

The last bad AICN impression

 

[Oscorp]

Glad to hear these rumours were false. However...I'm still seriously concerned about The Vulturess. I hope those rumours are false too!

 

[Sam Fisher]

And let's hope that little thing about it being called "SPIDER-M4N" is also false.

 

[SpideyTheBest]

Huh, well good thing it was false.

 

[zeptron]

Glad to hear these rumours were false. However...I'm still seriously concerned about The Vulturess. I hope those rumours are false too!

Ditto. One flying bird is enough.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I love SHH.

 

[spider-neil]

It would probably end up being a bit similar to SM2. Most of Lizard's story was already given to Doc Ock(His family, accident gone bad etc) Octavius was Peter's friend in a way, for a brief moment, he inspired him, he taught Peter a moral lesson in the begging and then an accident turned him a monster. Not carrying for other people's lives, only doing the thing he believes is right. In the end he was 'cured' and he redeemed himself. Lizard's story is quite the same as this one. In short: a good doctor, who is Peter's friend and mentor turns into a monster and Spider-Man must stop him.

That story would not work. Maybe it will in the fan community, but the general public would not accept it. It would feel as the same story told with only different characters.

And plus a lot people are tired of sympathetic villains. It's inevitable with the Lizard. That's why a lot of us prefer another villain who's really evil to go along with him.

of course there are similarities but its how the movie is actually played out. for instance doc ock didn't have a duel personality, once the inhibitor chip was destroyed that is pretty much how he remained until the final scene. curt on the other hand would be a good guy whilst human and a total mosnter whilst a lizard.

also the film makers could make lspidey take the blame for all of lizard's crimes, doing away with the city's adulation of spidey which I personally HATE.

then there is the dynamic of conner's family. doc ock's wife was only briefly shown and harry relationship would be completely different to the very young billy and curt's wife. could actually focus on the family and show things from their point of view making a welcome change from peter and mj absolutely HOGGING the spotlight as usual.

there is so much potential with the lizard I have no idea why sam isn't grabbing it with both hands espeically seeing as the storyline lends itself to horror sensibilities.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I know a guy in Italy it's ******** like aicn and iesb together when we have this rumors.

 

[Reikowolf]

haha,

well it's good to know that the hype on SM4 is still very strong. This news was announced this morning and look how many posts this thread has

 

[TheVileOne]

So basically they need Deadpool except Fox has Deadpool.

All the really popular villains Spider-man has already used in the movies.

Who are these villains that sell books?

 

[Sam Fisher]

So basically they need Deadpool except Fox has Deadpool.

All the really popular villains Spider-man has already used in the movies.

Who are these villains that sell books?

Maybe they want to adpat One More Day

 

[DarthDaveBanner]

An internet rumour that turns out to be utter bs.

Why am I not suprised?