Spider-Man (PS4) - Part 2

[AndrewGilkison]

MJ:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...now-about-mary-jane-watson-in-spider-man.aspx

“When we started talking about having M.J. in the game, we didn’t want her to be the same character she was in the comics,” Insomniac writer Jon Paquette says.

I am probably going to hate MJ in this game.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You shouldn't hate -or even expect that- the character this far ahead of release.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I love ultimate Spiderman game it is my 2nd favorite Spiderman game just slightly behind Spiderman 2 but i was never able to get all the costumes has some of the races i have still never beaten and i am pretty sure there are no cheat codes to unlock them.

I used Action Replay cheat disc, not a cheat code I punched in.

 

[GamerSlyRatchet]

I am probably going to hate MJ in this game.

Yeah, I kinda made peace with the fact that Spectacular Spider-Man will be the ONLY adaptation that actually understands the character. I won't let that ruin the enjoyment of what looks like an otherwise promising game.

 

[Mister J]

I'm not looking forward to the prospect of MJ stealth levels or whatever. I don't really care if they've altered the character to make the game's scope more expansive, but in terms of gameplay, I'm just looking to get my spider-blood, spider-blood, radioactive spider-blood on.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

MJ:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu...now-about-mary-jane-watson-in-spider-man.aspx

After reading this, I can only assume they have never actually read the comics and are instead using the Raimi films as a barometer for MJ.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm not looking forward to the prospect of MJ stealth levels or whatever. I don't really care if they've altered the character to make the game's scope more expansive, but in terms of gameplay, I'm just looking to get my spider-blood, spider-blood, radioactive spider-blood on.

I suppose it just depends on whether or not you care about MJ. I can totally understand if someone either doesn't like her or just doesn't care, they'd see her involvement as 'taking away' from the Spider-Man parts of the game.

For me, I love her character and I'm looking forward to what they've got in store.

 

[Spider-jedi]

After reading this, I can only assume they have never actually read the comics and are instead using the Raimi films as a barometer for MJ.

I believe you are wrong on this. First the games story is been written by actual comic book writers. Mj in the raimi movies was not that interesting if you really think about it.

For me this sounds better than what rocksteady did by pairing batgirl with tim drake robin instead of dick grayson. it felt wrong even writing that statement.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I believe you are wrong on this. First the games story is been written by actual comic book writers. Mj in the raimi movies was not that interesting if you really think about it.

MJ in the comics was not 'meant to be the girlfriend' nor was she the 'damsel in distress', "waiting around for Peter to put on the suit to come and save her." That is not comic MJ at all, that is more in line with Raimi's MJ, and in fact, the comic MJ broke the mold. She didn't actually fit into one of the predetermined roles that female supporting characters were written. Comic MJ demonstrated her strength over the years taking on villains either by herself or helping Peter/Spider-Man, she was the first 'love interest' that was able to accept the duality and was ever supportive of Peter being Spider-Man. Of course like the girlfriend/wife of any public servant, there's the fear of losing his/her life on the job. But MJ certainly wasn't some notch the on the bedpost of the hero nor just supposed to wait around for him. MJ had her own motives and "agency." A truly wonderful supporting character. I've no issue with her being a journalist and although that is not an occupation she ever had in 616, it is most definitely in line with the strength of her character.

It wasn't until the Slott era that we see MJ become less supportive of Peter/Spider-Man, turn into 'b**ch MJ,' call Peter the biggest mistake of her life and call him an idiot.

With Slott and Gage helping to script the game, I'm actually surprised MJ is fulfilling such a large role.

 

[Mister J]

I suppose it just depends on whether or not you care about MJ. I can totally understand if someone either doesn't like her or just doesn't care, they'd see her involvement as 'taking away' from the Spider-Man parts of the game.

For me, I love her character and I'm looking forward to what they've got in store.

I love MJ, but I don't have any interest in playing her as a character any more so than I would playing as Aunt May, JJ or some shoehorned element where Peter can't use his powers for whatever reason. I want a fully formed Spider-Man experience, but don't see where that coincides with gameplay where there are no remarkable abilities to speak of.

 

[spiderman2]

Not a big deal but a new video on the suit in the game and like how it is like thought of like a sports suit. Also they talk about how at first they had him look more skinny and like a teenager and then had him looking to big and had to find middle ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix1_QwCkvsQ

 

[Parquagh]

At least this MJ is not Michelle
A step forward after ten backwards, I agree that the only faithful adaptation is The Spectacular Spider-Man and not only for MJ but for most characters, even Peter.

 

[The Slang]

At least this MJ is not Michelle
A step forward after ten backwards, I agree that the only faithful adaptation is The Spectacular Spider-Man and not only for MJ but for most characters, even Peter.

Oh come on 'bro', that's not true. 90's TAS all the way.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

At least this MJ is not Michelle
A step forward after ten backwards, I agree that the only faithful adaptation is The Spectacular Spider-Man and not only for MJ but for most characters, even Peter.

The 80s cartoons adapted the character of Peter Parker very well, I think they have the closest take on the character outside of comics.

Oh come on 'bro', that's not true. 90's TAS all the way.

I can write details on how off that show is when it comes to takes on most of the comics characters. Flash Thompson and Joe Robertson are the closest to their comics counterparts.

 

[The Slang]

The 80s cartoons adapted the character of Peter Parker very well, I think they have the closest take on the character outside of comics.

I can write details on how off that show is when it comes to takes on most of the comics characters. Flash Thompson and Joe Robertson are the closest to their comics counterparts.

At least they looked like humans instead of freakish doll people. How was Spectacular's adaption of Parker, or any character more faithful than TAS?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

At least they looked like humans instead of freakish doll people. How was Spectacular's adaption of Parker, or any character more faithful than TAS?

You talking about designs or personality? Cause they maintained the basics for the start of each personality for Spectacular.

 

[The Slang]

You talking about designs or personality? Cause they maintained the basics for the start of each personality for Spectacular.

I never liked the art style in Spectacular. I could be biased but I liked the personalities in TAS more as well. I don't see how Spectacular had more faithful adaptions.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I love MJ, but I don't have any interest in playing her as a character any more so than I would playing as Aunt May, JJ or some shoehorned element where Peter can't use his powers for whatever reason. I want a fully formed Spider-Man experience, but don't see where that coincides with gameplay where there are no remarkable abilities to speak of.

In her first introduction to ASM, MJ convinced Peter to take her close to the action when they saw Rhino tearing up the town on TV. She's a bad ass. Always has been and it helps out Spider-Man. MJ may not have 'abilities' but if there ever was a case for a human to become a super, MJ makes a great deal of sense and not just by her attitude or outer strength. MJ's inner strength and fortitude are her real assets. She'd make an awesome hero. I can make a much better argument for her wearing a costume than Gwen. Knowing that about her character and the fact that she doesn't have super abilities, at least imo, makes MJ a good choice for adding a supporting character to the gameplay. She's strong in her own right. Playing as Aunt May or JJJ, that doesn't make sense in terms of gameplay.

Assuming MJ is a shoehorned element in anything is a great discredit to her character. I haven't played the game yet but I highly doubt her involvement is going to feel inorganic. In fact, I'd be willing to say her involvement will only add more depth and even excitement to the gameplay.

But I digress, playing as MJ probably won't take up such a significant amount of time as to ruin the experience of the full game. If assuming it's a small amount of time and THAT is what ruins the experience, this game has got bigger problems.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Oh come on 'bro', that's not true. 90's TAS all the way.

That show was awful.

 

[Nathan]

Loved the show, but it hasn't aged well.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

None of the 90's MARVEL shows have aged well. Even X-Men: TAS was an absolute chore to get through when I watched it a while back.

 

[zeptron]

I grew up with Spider-man TAS. But I'm not one of those that puts it on a pedestal and expects other variations to imitate it rather than do their own things. It's art style did resemble the comic look more, but it's actual animation suffered as a result. It was slow and stiff that Spider-man didn't actually move like Spider-man. And the show constantly reused stock footage. Especially in later seasons. I mean when Spidey fought Doc Ock and Lizard in later seasons, they'd often use footage from those villains' debut episodes.

Spectacular's more simple art allowed for much more fluid and smoother animation and helped provide much better choreography for the fight sequences. And for which adaptation is "more faithful", it all really comes down to opinion. But I personally felt Spectacular handled Doc Ock much better than TAS did. It also showed that Sandman had some humanity in him and the potential to become a better person. Which makes sense as he did become a good guy for awhile in the comics. MJ was also the cool party girl like she was in the comics.

Spectacular was pretty much the closest we got to the original Stan Lee/Steve Ditko issue being adapted. One episode even took a scene straight out of ASM 33.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That show was awful.

What's the matter? You don't like seeing Spider-Man being Kingpin's squeezy toy?

And the need to be saved every battle he has a guest star with him, or Even Jameson?

 

[Spidey_62]

That show was awful.

Loved the show, but it hasn't aged well.

None of the 90's MARVEL shows have aged well. Even X-Men: TAS was an absolute chore to get through when I watched it a while back.

I grew up with Spider-man TAS. But I'm not one of those that puts it on a pedestal and expects other variations to imitate it rather than do their own things. It's art style did resemble the comic look more, but it's actual animation suffered as a result. It was slow and stiff that Spider-man didn't actually move like Spider-man. And the show constantly reused stock footage. Especially in later seasons. I mean when Spidey fought Doc Ock and Lizard in later seasons, they'd often use footage from those villains' debut episodes.

Spectacular's more simple art allowed for much more fluid and smoother animation and helped provide much better choreography for the fight sequences. And for which adaptation is "more faithful", it all really comes down to opinion. But I personally felt Spectacular handled Doc Ock much better than TAS did. It also showed that Sandman had some humanity in him and the potential to become a better person. Which makes sense as he did become a good guy for awhile in the comics. MJ was also the cool party girl like she was in the comics.

Spectacular was pretty much the closest we got to the original Stan Lee/Steve Ditko issue being adapted. One episode even took a scene straight out of ASM 33.

Objectively, Spectacular Spider-Man is the best show there is and I grew up on the 90s show. BUT!...

I do really enjoy the 90s show still today, it's shifted in a way where part of the enjoyment I have comes from how ridiculously cheesy it is and how nuts the pacing is. I find it very enjoyable to watch or just have on in the background and I get windblown with all the crap they pack in. They covered a lot of history and often put their own spin on things, but at the end of the day I think it still works for me because despite how cheesy and bad the animation can be is it's earnest. You can tell they knew Spider-Man and tried to recreate the feeling of following his comics and that's why I think the show is still worth it today.

 

[The Slang]

That show was awful.

It was good enough for the Raimi trilogy and Spectacular to imitate. The symbiote bell tower scene was taken straight from TAS.

TAS had its problems, and the quality diminished throughout the series but lets do a side by side comparison.

Compare 'night of the lizard' with Spectacular's first Lizard episode. Which has the better animation? Which Lizard is more intimidating? Which episode has the more eery atmosphere? Which feels more real? For me, it's TAS all the way.

Spectacular had no grit, no attitude. It was cartoony, bland and inoffensive, like kim possible. Sure, Spectacular's simpler art style allowed motion to be quicker and more fluid, but the end result wasn't always better. Spectacular would fling and spin about the place with no real sense of weight or physics.

I found Spectacular's Parker to be less likeable and relatable.