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I like them both equally.

Maybe SSM a little bit more, because it had better writing... but TAS was awesome. I love its version of the symbiote story, and the whole Make a Wish two parter is great.

Also, SECRET WARS!!!!

I really loved it when Spidey was on the edge of losing his sanity, screaming wildly as he chased Shocker. The show also did the costume properly in that it changed into other outfits at Peter's mental behest.
 
Another thing I'd like to say is that in regards to Peter being in high school, he was 15 when he became Spider-man. The plan was for them to move chronologically and we get to see Peter and his friends grow up and his progression from total loser to semi-popular awkward guy that he is in TAS.

They didn't plan on making him stay a teen forever. Each season would have had him mature more and more and the show would have ended with him and his friends graduating. The creators planned on doing some DTVs afterwards which would have taken place during his college years and contained darker stories. Including a proper potential adaptation of "The Night Gwen Stacy Died".

And I'd also like to say that Spectacular did more with Doc Ock in it's two seasons, than TAS did with Ock it it's full five seasons.
 
Well Peter graduated High School in issue 25, so it's not that important.

Over two years worth of comic books, not to mention over half of his most famous villains came during that period, is not that important?

Yeah right.

I think SSM is the better cartoon, but TAS is much more faithful to the original source material, even adapting several scenes directly from the comics. SSM deviated quite a bit as well, such as having Goblin frame Harry and not have a split personality, having Electro be sympathetic at first, having Tombstone the main crime lord instead of Kingpin, having Eddie be one of Peter's best friends ect, it definitely had that many deviations.

SSM adapted several scenes directly from the comic books, too. My all time favorite being Spider-Man buried under the rubble in the Master Planner arc. And not just scenes but whole actual storylines. Look at Doc Ock alone. In two seasons several of his most famous storylines were done; Sinister Six, Master Planner, and the gang war arc. Name a villain in TAS who got that many of their greatest hits covered like that in the 5 seasons of the show.

Even with only 2 seasons compared to TAS' 5 seasons, SSM covered more ground with many characters.

SSM's changes were minute compared to TAS' ones. Goblin framing Harry is not a huge character deviation or bastardization, unlike say Hobgoblin coming before Green Goblin which is like Robin coming before Batman. And the split personality thing is from the comics. Electro has been portrayed in a sympathetic way in the comics. Check out ASM # 422-423 for one of many examples. Tombstone being the main crime lord is a drop in the ocean compared to making nearly every villain tied to Kingpin's apron strings (including the Sinister Six...oh excuse me the 'Insidious' Six in this show). As is Peter being best friends with Eddie. That's an improvement over the comic book's awful Venom origin where Eddie and Peter had no connection. Ever notice how every adaption of Venom, including TAS, made Eddie and Peter know each other before they became enemies.

So yeah what ever deviations SSM had, TAS topped them a thousand fold.

Given that comic books and their subsequent adaptations have an essential visual element, it shouldn't surprise you that fans have strong inclinations towards certain styles.

That would only be a valid point if the character designs in SSM didn't look like the comic book counterparts at all. Nobody is going to tell me they looked at Spider-Man, or Goblin, or Ock, or Sandman etc and didn't know who they were.

You're just saying which design you like more. That doesn't make it better or more comic accurate. Joel Schumacher's Bane looking more like his comic book character didn't sway fans towards him for that.

As for your assertion that TAS "veered off" of the Spidey mythos, I'd term it as expanding the world around him. Including storylines with characters like the Beyonder, Dormammu, and Madame Webb ( I really liked the creepy factor she brought) were part of the ambitious storylines I mentioned.

That's not expanding, that's changing. Those things didn't happen in the comics ergo they're changes. No Gwen Stacy, to over half the show's villains being tied to Kingpin's apron strings, to Electro being some Russian sap general of the Red Skull, to Hobgoblin coming before Green Goblin, to the likes of Morbius being a bigger presence than the likes of Green Goblin, Mysterio, Vulture, and even your precious Venom etc, this rubbish is not expanding anything.

While I'm aware that Peter's initial comic run began with high school as a backdrop, I had already grown bored with the high school structure (not just Spidey, in all stories ) by the '80s. I really dug an adult Spidey with more mature problems.

That's your problem if you found the High School era boring. It's irrelevant to the point you're making about faithful adaptation. It doesn't negate the fact it's straight from the comics and absolutely representative of the early years of Spidey, which the first two season of SSM covered. Had the show gone on he would most likely have graduated to college years.

So you're wrong on this.
 
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What Joker said is true, and that shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of this show or whatnot. Both are pretty darn great for being the sole two Spidey cartoons to seriously try to emulate the comics by having it really be a serialized drama about Peter and his world. None of the other Spidey cartoons before TAS or besides TSSM have really done this or felt so much like the comics as a result. I'll always love the heck out of both shows because of how earnestly they were approached by their respective creative teams.
 
That would only be a valid point if the character designs in SSM didn't look like the comic book counterparts at all. Nobody is going to tell me they looked at Spider-Man, or Goblin, or Ock, or Sandman etc and didn't know who they were.

You're just saying which design you like more. That doesn't make it better or more comic accurate. Joel Schumacher's Bane looking more like his comic book character didn't sway fans towards him for that.



That's not expanding, that's changing. Those things didn't happen in the comics ergo they're changes. No Gwen Stacy, to over half the show's villains being tied to Kingpin's apron strings, to Electro being some Russian sap general of the Red Skull, to Hobgoblin coming before Green Goblin, to the likes of Morbius being a bigger presence than the likes of Green Goblin, Mysterio, Vulture, and even your precious Venom etc, this rubbish is not expanding anything.



That's your problem if you found the High School era boring. It's irrelevant to the point you're making about faithful adaptation. It doesn't negate the fact it's straight from the comics and absolutely representative of the early years of Spidey, which the first two season of SSM covered. Had the show gone on he would most likely have graduated to college years.

So you're wrong on this.


The point about the designs is which is stronger, a realistic approach to anatomy or a one that makes humans look like moving dolls? The legs alone on SSM were cringeworthy. SSM's Rhino's lower body looked too small to support his massive upper torso, Ock's inexplicable half glasses/half domino mask and big circle belly were laughable, and Peter had the face of a 5-year-old. Ultimate Spider-man has better graphics than SSM did.

I'll admit that it's been awhile since I watched SSM, but the only two villains who come to mind as being designed particularly well on that show were Shocker and Lizard. Yes, they deviated from the comics somewhat, but at least the changes were attractive.

I also thought Kingpin's characterization and role on TAS show worked very well. Fisk is one of the greatest, although strangely underrated, cerebral villains in comics. Watching him launch long-arcing, elaborate schemes and pull the strings of so many other supervillains was part of the large, bold feel that set TAS apart from so many other simplistic super hero 'toons.
 
Over two years worth of comic books, not to mention over half of his most famous villains came during that period, is not that important?

Two years... out of 30 years. Yeah, not important.

SSM adapted several scenes directly from the comic books, too. My all time favorite being Spider-Man buried under the rubble in the Master Planner arc. And not just scenes but whole actual storylines. Look at Doc Ock alone. In two seasons several of his most famous storylines were done; Sinister Six, Master Planner, and the gang war arc. Name a villain in TAS who got that many of their greatest hits covered like that in the 5 seasons of the show.

That was one scene, and the dialogue was much different than in the comics (although it's been a while since I read that one).

TAS adapted the Green Goblin story arc complete with the amnesia, split personality, Goblin finding out Peter's secret identity, Harry becoming the Goblin, Silvermane and him having Doc Connors try to find out the Elixir of life and turning into a baby, the story arc where Spider-Man grew 6 arms, Spider-Man losing his powers, and then getting into a fight with Doc Ock who takes off the mask but decides that it wasn't really Spider-Man, ect, and they took more dialogue from the source than SSM.

Goblin framing Harry is not a huge character deviation or bastardization, unlike say Hobgoblin coming before Green Goblin which is like Robin coming before Batman.

The Hobgoblin wasn't Roderick Kingsley, so it's not that big of an issue.

And the split personality thing is from the comics.

Yes... and in TAS Norman had a split personality, while in SSM Norman didn't.

Electro has been portrayed in a sympathetic way in the comics. Check out ASM # 422-423 for one of many examples.

He certainly didn't start out of sympathetic or remain that way

As is Peter being best friends with Eddie. That's an improvement over the comic book's awful Venom origin where Eddie and Peter had no connection.

I agree, but that still means TAS was more faithful even if the comic story wasn't that good

So yeah what ever deviations SSM had, TAS topped them a thousand fold.

No.
 
As I said before, Spectacular's art is to be desired, but that shouldn't be the deciding factor to a show's quality. That's pretty much the equivalent of saying a bad game with good graphics is better than a good game with inferior graphics. Yeah Ultimate Spider-man has better art, but that's about all it has going for it. Many people consider that to be the worst Spider-man for a lot of reasons. And it's art isn't one of them. It's likely that it had a bigger budget(it is produced by Marvel/Disney), so it could afford to have designs that are more a bit more realistic and also animated pretty well.

I also think Doc Ock was handled better in Spectacular. In a mere two seasons it took several of his best stories from the comics. The Sinister Six, the Master Planner and the Gang War. Amazing accomplishment. And more than TAS did with Ock whom after his debut was nothing more than a Kingpin lackey.

And I'm gonna say this again in regards to Peter and Eddie being friends in Spectacular and Norman not having a split personality(which seems to have been ignored)

- Stan Lee originally made so that Norman was actually aware of his actions as the Green Goblin. The whole split personality stuff didn't come until after he was unmasked for the first time.

- Spectacular used elements from mainly the original comics and a few elements from the Ultimate Spider-man comics. Things like Peter and Eddie being friends were all taken from the latter. I mean in the original comics, they weren't rivals at the Bugle either. They never even met until after Eddie became Venom.
 
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:up: Well stated, Joker.

What Joker said is true, and that shouldn't take away from your enjoyment of this show or whatnot.

Thank you, gents :up:

The point about the designs is which is stronger, a realistic approach to anatomy or a one that makes humans look like moving dolls? The legs alone on SSM were cringeworthy. SSM's Rhino's lower body looked too small to support his massive upper torso, Ock's inexplicable half glasses/half domino mask and big circle belly were laughable, and Peter had the face of a 5-year-old. Ultimate Spider-man has better graphics than SSM did.

Again that's just you stating your preference for which animation designs you liked more. That's nothing to do with comic book accuracy. Some artists in the comics have done some god awful designs of the characters, but that doesn't make them any less comic book accurate.

Unless a character is completely unrecognizable, as in completely redesigned and bare no resemblance to their original design, then there's no issue here with regards to comic book faithfulness. And even then I'd argue that redesigning a character doesn't mean they are not comic book faithful. Using Bane from Batman again as an example, he was redesigned in The Dark Knight Rises, but nobody gave a toss because he looked great and Nolan made him the bad ass threat he was in the comics, even including his fan favorite moment where he breaks Batman.

I'll admit that it's been awhile since I watched SSM, but the only two villains who come to mind as being designed particularly well on that show were Shocker and Lizard. Yes, they deviated from the comics somewhat, but at least the changes were attractive.

Shocker and Lizard were as recognizable as every other character. If you liked their designs more that's your preference, but they were still as valid as the others. The only character I would say was a total redesign is Electro. If anyone wanted to attack him for lack of comic book faithful design, they'd be justified.

I also thought Kingpin's characterization and role on TAS show worked very well. Fisk is one of the greatest, although strangely underrated, cerebral villains in comics. Watching him launch long-arcing, elaborate schemes and pull the strings of so many other supervillains was part of the large, bold feel that set TAS apart from so many other simplistic super hero 'toons.

Kingpin was awesome, and his voice by Roscoe Lee Browne was perfection. The trouble is nearly every villain and their mother was tied to him. He was ridiculously over used, and at the expense of many other villains. He was never ever that big of a villainous presence in Spider-Man's world. Just like Morbius. The writers just went too far with some characters at the expense of others. It made this Spider-Mna universe feel smaller and cramped when you could predict nearly every villain had something to do with Kingpin.

Even loser villains like The Spot were tied to him.

Two years... out of 30 years. Yeah, not important.

That's like saying the Death of Gwen Stacy, one story out of thousands. Yeah not that important.

That was one scene, and the dialogue was much different than in the comics (although it's been a while since I read that one).

That was one of MANY scenes, and who cares if the dialogue was not the exact same? Name me a scene in TAS where the dialogue was the same as the comic book.

The the context and spirit of the scene was the same. Spider-Man was trapped, had to get to save a loved one before it was too late, and he summons his inner strength to free himself.

The whole visual of the scene was spot on.

TAS adapted the Green Goblin story arc complete with the amnesia, split personality, Goblin finding out Peter's secret identity, Harry becoming the Goblin, Silvermane and him having Doc Connors try to find out the Elixir of life and turning into a baby, the story arc where Spider-Man grew 6 arms, Spider-Man losing his powers, and then getting into a fight with Doc Ock who takes off the mask but decides that it wasn't really Spider-Man, ect, and they took more dialogue from the source than SSM.

The Green Goblin story came post the Hobgoblin story, therefore it invalidates it completely. I also asked you to name one villain who had as many character arcs adapted as the likes of Ock did in SSM. This is just you naming three stories that influenced the show over the course of FIVE seasons.

The Hobgoblin wasn't Roderick Kingsley, so it's not that big of an issue.

Why does it not being Kingsley not make it that big of an issue? It's another bastardization you can add to the list since Kingsley not Macendale was the first Hobgoblin. If anything it's an even bigger issue.

Yes... and in TAS Norman had a split personality, while in SSM Norman didn't.

If you read the comics you know Norman didn't get the split personality until AFTER he got amnesia. That had not happened yet in SSM.

He certainly didn't start out of sympathetic or remain that way

Yes he did. Read Electro's backstory in those comics I mentioned. It is very sympathetic. And what pray tell was so sympathetic about SSM's Electro when he became a villain?

I agree, but that still means TAS was more faithful even if the comic story wasn't that good

How does that make TAS more faithful? It made Peter and Eddie connected, and even rivals. It's not more of a deviation than making them friends. It's establishing a connection that they never had in the comics.


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As I said before, Spectacular's art is to be desired, but that shouldn't be the deciding factor to a show's quality. That's pretty much the equivalent of saying a bad game with good graphics is better than a good game with inferior graphics. Yeah Ultimate Spider-man has better art, but that's about all it has going for it. Many people consider that to be the worst Spider-man for a lot of reasons. And it's art isn't one of them. It's likely that it had a bigger budget(it is produced by Marvel/Disney), so it could afford to have designs that are more a bit more realistic and also animated pretty well.

I also think Doc Ock was handled better in Spectacular. In a mere two seasons it took several of his best stories from the comics. The Sinister Six, the Master Planner and the Gang War. Amazing accomplishment. And more than TAS did with Ock whom after his debut was nothing more than a Kingpin lackey.

And I'm gonna say this again in regards to Peter and Eddie being friends in Spectacular and Norman not having a split personality(which seems to have been ignored)

This :up: :up:
 
Thank you, gents :up:



Again that's just you stating your preference for which animation designs you liked more. That's nothing to do with comic book accuracy. Some artists in the comics have done some god awful designs of the characters, but that doesn't make them any less comic book accurate.

Unless a character is completely unrecognizable, as in completely redesigned and bare no resemblance to their original design, then there's no issue here with regards to comic book faithfulness. And even then I'd argue that redesigning a character doesn't mean they are not comic book faithful. Using Bane from Batman again as an example, he was redesigned in The Dark Knight Rises, but nobody gave a toss because he looked great and Nolan made him the bad ass threat he was in the comics, even including his fan favorite moment where he breaks Batman.



Shocker and Lizard were as recognizable as every other character. If you liked their designs more that's your preference, but they were still as valid as the others. The only character I would say was a total redesign is Electro. If anyone wanted to attack him for lack of comic book faithful design, they'd be justified.



Kingpin was awesome, and his voice by Roscoe Lee Browne was perfection. The trouble is nearly every villain and their mother was tied to him. He was ridiculously over used, and at the expense of many other villains. He was never ever that big of a villainous presence in Spider-Man's world. Just like Morbius. The writers just went too far with some characters at the expense of others. It made this Spider-Mna universe feel smaller and cramped when you could predict nearly every villain had something to do with Kingpin.

Even loser villains like The Spot were tied to him.



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With kid-centric designs like that, the show was instantly put at a disadvantage when it was time to accentuate the gravitas. It's not impossible, but realistic designs simply lend themselves to more mature storylines. Spidey has always had plenty of light-hearted source material, but he's had some dark moments as he should. While I know this is an extreme example, think about World War Hulk being adapted with both the Ultimate Avengers DVD movies style animation and Super Hero Squad style. Which would work better in your mind?

While characters like Morbius and Spot might not be A-listers, it was nice to see that Spidey wasn't joined only to his elite grouping of villains. If you've ever seen a list of the Marvel characters on that show, it's enormous. That list isn't just limited to super-powered beings, either. It gave the show a feel that Spidey was in constant peril from a huge world of supervillainy, even at the end of a successful battle, which necessitated the periodic intervention of characters like Iron Man and War Machine.

I have no problem with Peter's high school roots, but that's no longer the only way to tell a Spidey story, nor was it in 1994. I wouldn't have minded him having already graduated ESU, but at least he was older and the school wasn't bogging him down with too many teen issues.
 
This reminds me of when people were bashing a certain video game because it had simple designs and looked too "kid eccentric". Then when they played it it was badass. That game would be the Legend Of Zelda Wind Waker.

And the more realistic the art is, the more time it takes to create a frame and that makes for crappy action sequences. Because it's not like they have all the time in the world to make these. But if the art is more simplistic, they are faster to make and that makes more frames = better action sequences.

And Spectacular was actually the first time Peter's high school roots had been fully done in other media(not counting the first movie since he graduated soon afterwards). And as I mentioned before, they didn't plan on having him in high school forever.
 
S:TAS had a more 'mature' looking art style than TSSM but it suffered when it came to the animation. Spidey moved slow and stiff in TAS compared to TSSM. The action scenes in TAS were hampered by this and also hampered by the other issues that happened to plague the show. Mostly due to the censorship, Spidey couldn't really ever 'attack' the villains, once an awhile he'd pull out a swing kick but otherwise he was never really throwing punches and when Spidey was hit only once in many cases, he was often too 'dizzy' to continue the fight. Reused footage, slow sequences, an under powered Spider-Man all led to some very underwhelming action scenes. I was always engaged whenever story elements or drama elements were playing out while watching TAS but every time a new action scene was about to start, it would take me out of the experience.

And back on the subject of art. TSSM's character designs were simple and I can understand the criticism it gets for that but it was done on purpose. "Look simple without looking too simple" -- Victor Cook. "We wanted a show where the characters were easily animate-able...a Spider-Man that could really move"--Victor Cook. And it shows. The action scenes were fast paced, interesting, engaging, and had some very creative uses of Spider-Man's powerset. He was also pretty durable.

One thing I never liked about TAS's art style is in the character designs. Just about every male character was built like Brock Lesnar, including Peter.
 
Is STAS finally coming to DVD? I mean that's what I'm guessing seeing as how the thread has been very active lately.
 
I actually prefer the character design of Spectacular. It was more interesting to look at. The 90's show was a bit bland and stiff by comparison. And with the animation, the design of Spectacular looked more consistent throughout the show, where the 90's show varied and often looked awkward, particularly after the first season.
 
I actually prefer the character design of Spectacular. It was more interesting to look at. The 90's show was a bit bland and stiff by comparison. And with the animation, the design of Spectacular looked more consistent throughout the show, where the 90's show varied and often looked awkward, particularly after the first season.

Agreed, Spectacular had a particular and unique look, made wonders for the animation and visuals.
 
I actually prefer the character design of Spectacular. It was more interesting to look at. The 90's show was a bit bland and stiff by comparison. And with the animation, the design of Spectacular looked more consistent throughout the show, where the 90's show varied and often looked awkward, particularly after the first season.

Agreed, Spectacular had a particular and unique look, made wonders for the animation and visuals.

Agreed on both.
 
Yeah the animation in the first season of TAS was great(especially in Night Of The Lizard), but it's quality started to drop in the second season and got worse and worse as the show continued. The constant recycling of footage became so obvious that it's cringe worthy sometimes. Especially when you the characters in environments that look nothing like the setting they were just in.

And I also agree with what UltimateWebHead said in regards to how Peter was built. He was entirely too muscular(even more than Spider-man). He was shown to be pretty muscular in flashbacks before he even got bitten. When I look at him in that show, I have a hard time believing a guy his size was pushed around by Flash Thompson.
 
Yeah the animation in the first season of TAS was great(especially in Night Of The Lizard), but it's quality started to drop in the second season and got worse and worse as the show continued. The constant recycling of footage became so obvious that it's cringe worthy sometimes. Especially when you the characters in environments that look nothing like the setting they were just in.

And I also agree with what UltimateWebHead said in regards to how Peter was built. He was entirely too muscular(even more than Spider-man). He was shown to be pretty muscular in flashbacks before he even got bitten. When I look at him in that show, I have a hard time believing a guy his size was pushed around by Flash Thompson.

I do agree that peter was to buff in tams but still the tams has the better art style. The art style in spectacular spider man is just to simple and that is why I like tams more but they are both great and by far the best 2 spider man cartoons. What do you mean by constant recycling of footage?
 
I do agree that peter was to buff in tams but still the tams has the better art style. The art style in spectacular spider man is just to simple and that is why I like tams more but they are both great and by far the best 2 spider man cartoons.

Well as already mentioned quite a few times in this thread, Spectacular's art helped provide better fight sequences. Like the one in this video for instance


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The animation is fast and fluid and the way the black suit takes out the Sinister Six here is brilliant. Especially what he did to Sandman. The art style of TAS wouldn't be able to provide action sequences like this.


What do you mean by constant recycling of footage?
As the show went on, it would constantly show scenes and footage from previous episodes. To give some examples

- In the Daredevil teamup episode, Spidey fights the Kingpin and Kingpin throws him across the room. The footage they then use is Spidey landing in front of Doc Ock's reactor which was from Ock's debut episode.

- In the second season finale, Spidey fights the Scorpion. The same shot of Scorpion charging at him was used about three times. Which not only was from Scorpion's debut episode, but also when he started to mutate into looking more monstrous instead of just looking like a man in a scorpion costume.

- In one episode(The Insidious Six IIRC), Spidey's crawling up a building. It then suddenly shows him crawling up a sewer pipe and then back to crawling on the building.

I could go on and on
 
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I do agree that peter was to buff in tams but still the tams has the better art style. The art style in spectacular spider man is just to simple and that is why I like tams more but they are both great and by far the best 2 spider man cartoons. What do you mean by constant recycling of footage?

He wasn't huge by any means; just about all of the villains he faced were taller and broader. Plus, Peter was a college man in the series. There was no need to make him as slender as most high school kids.
 
Peter was Mr. Muscles in this show:

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As the show went on, it would constantly show scenes and footage from previous episodes. To give some examples

- In the Daredevil teamup episode, Spidey fights the Kingpin and Kingpin throws him across the room. The footage they then use is Spidey landing in front of Doc Ock's reactor which was from Ock's debut episode.

- In the second season finale, Spidey fights the Scorpion. The same shot of Scorpion charging at him was used about three times. Which not only was from Scorpion's debut episode, but also when he started to mutate into looking more monstrous instead of just looking like a man in a scorpion costume.

- In one episode(The Insidious Six IIRC), Spidey's crawling up a building. It then suddenly shows him crawling up a sewer pipe and then back to crawling on the building.

I could go on and on

Oh that was one of the most annoying aspects of the show. It wasn't bad in season 1 because it was all new footage, but once season 2 hit the footage was recycled big time. In the very first episode of season 2, the Insidious Six, when Kingpin sends that robot Spider-Man in to fight the Six. half the fight is recycled footage from when the villains fought Spidey in their season 1 episodes.
 
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Peter was Mr. Muscles in this show:

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You and I have very different definitions of people who should be labeled "Mr. Muscles".:huh: Peter musculature was defined, but his mass was hardly abnormal.

TAS's rendering of Spidey reminded me the most of the Ditko Spidey:






As you can see here, Daredevil (who also isn't an overly-jacked hero) is both taller and carrying more mass.

 
I love both shows, but I have to agree that, similar to the relationship between the Batman (or TNBA) and BTAS, TSSM has the more fluid animation despite its less traditional style . IMO, it also has slightly better writing. Still I give SM:TAS an 8/10.

One thing that I prefer about SM:TAS is the orchestral music. A lot of shows don't do this anymore, which is shame because it adds so much atmosphere.
 
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Well as already mentioned quite a few times in this thread, Spectacular's art helped provide better fight sequences. Like the one in this video for instance


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The animation is fast and fluid and the way the black suit takes out the Sinister Six here is brilliant. Especially what he did to Sandman. The art style of TAS wouldn't be able to provide action sequences like this.



As the show went on, it would constantly show scenes and footage from previous episodes. To give some examples

- In the Daredevil teamup episode, Spidey fights the Kingpin and Kingpin throws him across the room. The footage they then use is Spidey landing in front of Doc Ock's reactor which was from Ock's debut episode.

- In the second season finale, Spidey fights the Scorpion. The same shot of Scorpion charging at him was used about three times. Which not only was from Scorpion's debut episode, but also when he started to mutate into looking more monstrous instead of just looking like a man in a scorpion costume.

- In one episode(The Insidious Six IIRC), Spidey's crawling up a building. It then suddenly shows him crawling up a sewer pipe and then back to crawling on the building.

I could go on and on

That fight was great I just wished that the art style are a little more detailed. Spectacular spider man did have better fights then the animated series did but I think the animated series was better written then spectacular spider man. I never noticed the recycled footage thing before. That wired that they had to do that. My biggest problem with the animated series was that spider man got hurt to easily. It was like ever episode he would get hurt bad and in to a sticke situartion witch got old. Also him not being able to throw a punch was really stupid. I do think that if spectacular spider man had gotten 5 season like the animated series did that I would maybe like spectacular spider man more has it was great and I think there was still a lot of things they could do with it.
 
One thing that I prefer about SM:TAS is the orchestral music. A lot of shows don't do this anymore, which is shame because it adds so much atmosphere.

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The music was really memorable in this show. I think it really fits the feel of Spidey well, like you could imagine hearing this stuff reading the comics. One that isn't included in either of those videos I'd like to hear is Kingpin's theme because of that hilariously cool pipe organ.
 
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