Spider-Man: Web of Shadows

[Mazda]

Activision should make a nemesis like fighting game.

 

[venom892]

Nemesis Sucked.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Nemesis Sucked.

they had the right idea though, just wasn't executed correctly...

 

[venom892]

Well instead having actually cool marvel characters to play as we got lame rip offs created by EA.Jonny Omn instead of Electro?Very Stupid.Plus the fighting sucked.

 

[Nightmare]

Nemesis Sucked Hard.

 

[Silverstein]

It's kind of annoying that people rip on that game. WHY did it suck? List five reasons.

I can tell you how it was awesome:

- Storm, Wolverine, Elektra, Daredevil, Human Torch, Thing, Spider-Man, Magneto, Venom, and Iron Man all in one game.
-A fighting game that allows you to use the environment and your powers freely and accurately to the characters.
-Awesome costumes for the characters. Venom looks cool, Wolverine isn't wearing yellow or leather, etc...
-Sure the villains were a bunch of nobodies and it would have been cooler to fight REAL villains like Electro instead of Johnny Ohm. But it was a nice change from "the same old"
-Levels were large and interesting.
-Story mode that actually acts like an adventure story instead of the typical "fighting game story mode" which is just random fights strung together by cutscenes. Pathetic.
-basic moves, specials and grabs that are unique to the character
-Large number of characters to choose from.
-Extras like Narrated Comics and collectibles


I think a lot of people that hate this game never actually beat it and got all the characters. I unlocked everyone in one play through. It is the kind of game I will never trade in. It was fun.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Yeah? Why all the hate on Nemesis? I enjoyed that game a lot and so did my non-comic fan friends who payed it. Yes there were some things wrong with it, like the lame EA characters and the fact that some characters were just waaaay better than others, and the fact that Spidey said things like, "That's what we call a web-slinging ass-kicking!" It was a fun game.

In related to the topic news: Marvel has some cool WOS wallpaper on their website:

http://marvel.com/news/vgstories.5157.Get_the_Spider-Man~colon~_Web_of_Shadows_Wallpaper

Pretty coolm although I'm sick of seeing the Vulture in this game. Even though I don't want to see too many of the game's Villains so I'm still surprised while playing.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I agree with you Silverstein, too many people hate on the game. Probably because the game was kinda hard and some people just suck at some games. I wish more fighting games with story mode would have the expansive levels and adventure game feel that Nemesis had.

Although I hated that Chick you unlock last. That really powerful lady (can't remeber her name but the game was kind of about her.) anyone who played as her would win. Even if it was your first time playing and your opponent owned the game, she was just way too powerful

 

[Silverstein]

That's just the thing, though. I perfected playing as Spidey so I could beat her. In fact, whenever I practice, I pick her as my opponent.

Her name is Paragon, by the way.

I think, you're right, that people had trouble beating the game and so their response is "I hated that game" or "It sucked", no YOU just sucked AT it. People expected to just have everyone unlocked from the beginning they didn't think they'd have to do story.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention another reason that the game was awesome....The game has fatalities and brutalities, Mortal Kombat style.

Most people probably just couldn't do them...

 

[Silverstein]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Nemesis

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's kind of annoying that people rip on that game. WHY did it suck? List five reasons.

I can tell you how it was awesome:

- Storm, Wolverine, Elektra, Daredevil, Human Torch, Thing, Spider-Man, Magneto, Venom, and Iron Man all in one game.
-A fighting game that allows you to use the environment and your powers freely and accurately to the characters.
-Awesome costumes for the characters. Venom looks cool, Wolverine isn't wearing yellow or leather, etc...
-Sure the villains were a bunch of nobodies and it would have been cooler to fight REAL villains like Electro instead of Johnny Ohm. But it was a nice change from "the same old"
-Levels were large and interesting.
-Story mode that actually acts like an adventure story instead of the typical "fighting game story mode" which is just random fights strung together by cutscenes. Pathetic.
-basic moves, specials and grabs that are unique to the character
-Large number of characters to choose from.
-Extras like Narrated Comics and collectibles


I think a lot of people that hate this game never actually beat it and got all the characters. I unlocked everyone in one play through. It is the kind of game I will never trade in. It was fun.

bud i guarantee you everone but little kids have unlocked everyone in that game... you mentioned excellent reasons why it was good.. but there are SEVERAL why it was bad too..

-Character design (thing with 5 fingers?, ru paul storm? goth elektra?

-lack of moves... half the time you play it, it becomes an item throw fest

-lack of balance, good luck using elektra or wolverine against ironman or even magneto

-lack of characters.. sorry but there were VERY few characters for a fighting game imo... even DC vs MK has mor then that


and Paragon was one of the CHEAPEST fighters of the game...

 

[SpideyForPrez]

You're both right in your listed reasons. I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you can get over the bad aspects and still enjoy the game if it has enough good aspects. Which IMO it did, I loved playing with Spidey in that game, my friends that he was a cheap character but I was just good. And I remeber my friends and I ruled out using Paragon against each other.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You're both right in your listed reasons. I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you can get over the bad aspects and still enjoy the game if it has enough good aspects. Which IMO it did, I loved playing with Spidey in that game, my friends that he was a cheap character but I was just good. And I remeber my friends and I ruled out using Paragon against each other.

o i still enjoy the game.. but it gets old really fast... after like 5 matches, or a run through with every marvel character when fighting my roomate, we get bored and call it a night.

 

[Silverstein]

bud i guarantee you everone but little kids have unlocked everyone in that game... you mentioned excellent reasons why it was good.. but there are SEVERAL why it was bad too..

We'll see...

-Character design (thing with 5 fingers?, ru paul storm? goth elektra?

Storm was very feminine and left little to imagine how she wasn't. Thing doesn't always have 3 fingers. It's an artistic choice. And yeah that's definitely a reason the GAMEPLAY was bad.

Elektra was based on the movie design btw...

-lack of moves... half the time you play it, it becomes an item throw fest

If you make it that way. I can pull off a lot of cool combos with spidey. Maybe you're just not that good, boss.

-lack of balance, good luck using elektra or wolverine against ironman or even magneto

Are you telling me that Elektra or Wolverine CAN beat Ironman or Magneto? Cause in the comics they can't so why should they be easily able to in the game? The fun is in trying and working hard. And actually every character can beat every other character in the game. Maybe it's not so easy that you can do so in seconds like in Street Fighter or Tekken, but it's doable. I've done so. So again, maybe it's you.

-lack of characters.. sorry but there were VERY few characters for a fighting game imo... even DC vs MK has mor then that

22 in MK vs. DC
18 in Marvel Nemesis

Four more characters can make or break a game for you? Sorry that's not a very good reason to not like the game. And 18 is actually enough even compared to games that came out in the next gen.

How many characters were in Virtua Fighter 5? No not Virtua Fighter 5R, just 5...? But wasn't that a next gen game while Marvel nemesis was last gen?! Gasp!

and Paragon was one of the CHEAPEST fighters of the game...

No. She wasn't. You may have unlocked all characters but you aren't very good with them. I've beaten her in a KO with 80% health, 90% and even perfects before. Cheap means that it's hard and doing so is almost impossible for an average player, because she'll do crazy moves that take out insane amounts of health or other tricks that other characters can not balance.

Yeah. Block when she tries to hit you. Dodge/counter her throws...Don't let her shoot you. Not cheap.

But that's again AI...now maybe your friends or YOU can be cheap with her. But you can be cheap with any character. Play a DBZ game. Every character is "cheap" in those games.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

We'll see...



Storm was very feminine and left little to imagine how she wasn't. Thing doesn't always have 3 fingers. It's an artistic choice. And yeah that's definitely a reason the GAMEPLAY was bad.

um dude thing is 99% of the time drawn with 3 fingers and a thumb, Storm had the biggest honking nose ive ever seen her have, and she looked like a drag queen. and did i say GAMEPLAY? NO I SAID GAME.

Elektra was based on the movie design btw...

dude no offense, but you really need to listen to yourself... you sound so ridiculous in these boards half the time "people probably didnt like it cuz it was too hard for them" dude you realize half of us are very experienced gamers too? dont kid yourself. and Elektra's only movie look reference (they were all inspired by the movies btw, mags, wolvie, spidey,) doesn't change the fact she looked like a goth chick... and not at all like movie elektra. What cuz she wore pants?

If you make it that way. I can pull off a lot of cool combos with spidey. Maybe you're just not that good, boss.

dude they have limited moves.. and very limited combos, have you ever even played a fighting game before?

Are you telling me that Elektra or Wolverine CAN beat Ironman or Magneto? Cause in the comics they can't so why should they be easily able to in the game? The fun is in trying and working hard. And actually every character can beat every other character in the game. Maybe it's not so easy that you can do so in seconds like in Street Fighter or Tekken, but it's doable. I've done so. So again, maybe it's you.

you telling me wolverine cant beat ironman? seriously... ? that one is completely situational. im just telling you there HORRIBLY unbalanced... whats the point of being them at all? they suck that bad. the only people elektra and wolvie are good for fighting are eachother.. and daredevil.

22 in MK vs. DC
18 in Marvel Nemesis

Four more characters can make or break a game for you? Sorry that's not a very good reason to not like the game. And 18 is actually enough even compared to games that came out in the next gen.

How many characters were in Virtua Fighter 5? No not Virtua Fighter 5R, just 5...? But wasn't that a next gen game while Marvel nemesis was last gen?! Gasp!

the imperfects hardly count.. they have no fan base... and hello have you ever played marvel vs capcom? look at there roster. i dont give a crap about virtua fighter... there weren't enough marvel characters in the dang fight game...

No. She wasn't. You may have unlocked all characters but you aren't very good with them. I've beaten her in a KO with 80% health, 90% and even perfects before. Cheap means that it's hard and doing so is almost impossible for an average player, because she'll do crazy moves that take out insane amounts of health or other tricks that other characters can not balance.

Yeah. Block when she tries to hit you. Dodge/counter her throws...Don't let her shoot you. Not cheap.

But that's again AI...now maybe your friends or YOU can be cheap with her. But you can be cheap with any character. Play a DBZ game. Every character is "cheap" in those games.

duh its with my friends... please i beat her first try when i unlocked her, the only level that gave me trouble was the ones leading up to it with the damn blocks.

and no thank you, my mitts will never touch anything DBZ related.

you really need to take a breath, step back, and pull your head out because im sure the smell of your own posterior must be starting to get to you. Stop acting like you think you know everything. End of story

I never once said the game was bad... but its FAR from a good fight game.
hell X-men Next Dimension was a better fight game. The one thing RoTI got right, was the stages (though way too few on those as well) and the destructible environments... thats honestly about it.

 

[Silverstein]

Wow, not only do you contradict yourself about three times, but this argument is not worth having. So I'm gonna keep this short:

-You clearly suck at the game. This is not me having some kind of attitude or being arrogant. I'm talking about YOU and just you. You suck at it based off of your complaints. Now, I -suggested- that other people who agree with you MIGHT be in the same situation.

-Most of your complaints are personal problems that YOU dislike about the game.

-One of those contradictions I'm talking about is so funny that it's ridiculous. You're saying that you don't think the game sucks, but it's "far from a good game"? I thought you buy games because of the fun had, how can it not be good or bad? Either it's fun or it isn't.

Also, "I don't care about virtua fighter" and "Imperfects don't count"....What? Do you know how dumb YOU sound on the boards? You're a joke. Stop talking.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Wow, not only do you contradict yourself about three times, but this argument is not worth having. So I'm gonna keep this short:

-You clearly suck at the game. This is not me having some kind of attitude or being arrogant. I'm talking about YOU and just you. You suck at it based off of your complaints. Now, I -suggested- that other people who agree with you MIGHT be in the same situation.

-Most of your complaints are personal problems that YOU dislike about the game.

-One of those contradictions I'm talking about is so funny that it's ridiculous. You're saying that you don't think the game sucks, but it's "far from a good game"? I thought you buy games because of the fun had, how can it not be good or bad? Either it's fun or it isn't.

Also, "I don't care about virtua fighter" and "Imperfects don't count"....What? Do you know how dumb YOU sound on the boards? You're a joke. Stop talking.

dude how the hell do you get "you suck at the game" out of anything i've said? your logic is so ridiculously flawed "people don't like the game, therefore they must suck at it" thats 12 year old logic... grow up man.

and yes, MY complaints would CLEARLY be MY personal complaints... but like others have posted, they've agree with MY complaints, so looks like MY complaints are shared .

I enjoy many games, that i can gladly admit are far from good... just because a game is enjoyable, doesnt make it a good game. That is not a contradiction. Its like enjoying a bad movie. We all have a guilty pleasure movie thats considered "bad". bud, only person that sounds dumb is you and ive been reading your posts on here for a while, but i just now decided to have the balls to say something about it .

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Ugh... who cares anymore Marvel Nemesis is a three year old game! Let's talk about Web of Shadows. Or better yet we could migrate to the "Need of Next-Gen TMNT game" topic that I created a few hours ago and hasn't got much attention.

 

[Styleshift]

-Character design (thing with 5 fingers?, ru paul storm? goth elektra?

-lack of moves... half the time you play it, it becomes an item throw fest

-lack of balance, good luck using elektra or wolverine against ironman or even magneto

-lack of characters.. sorry but there were VERY few characters for a fighting game imo... even DC vs MK has mor then that


and Paragon was one of the CHEAPEST fighters of the game...

Agreed, Paragon was super cheap. But I loved the character design for Nemesis. The thing with 5 fingers didn't bother me (to be honest I didn't even notice )

but there was nothing wrong with Elektra. a red jump suit wouldn't have really fit the game as well...even Spidey did not have his regular red and blues but a slick movie-like suit.

To further my point here are some pics to show you that it wasn't a totally original design choice, but a choice made to make the style of the characters more consistent.

 

[Styleshift]

Ugh... who cares anymore Marvel Nemesis is a three year old game! Let's talk about Web of Shadows. Or better yet we could migrate to the "Need of Next-Gen TMNT game" topic that I created a few hours ago and hasn't got much attention.

haha I agree but there's NOTHING to talk about...no info. we've really talked about everything over and over again...and its been like that for a while.

hmmm I'll check out your thread.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Ugh... who cares anymore Marvel Nemesis is a three year old game! Let's talk about Web of Shadows. Or better yet we could migrate to the "Need of Next-Gen TMNT game" topic that I created a few hours ago and hasn't got much attention.

yes agreed... back to a topic were someone isn't insulting people for thinking a game isn't as great as they think it is. And coming up with ridiculous excuses onto why people must not agree with him.

 

[Silverstein]

dude how the hell do you get "you suck at the game" out of anything i've said? your logic is so ridiculously flawed "people don't like the game, therefore they must suck at it" thats 12 year old logic... grow up man.

Again. I'm just talking about you. And your anger displayed everytime I've said this kind of demonstrates this. If it didn't hit so close to home would you entertain it?
Everytime I make the comment you become not only defensive but anger and personal attacks come out. I've said nothing against you as a person, you just suck at a video game. You've made a plethora of comments against me. So who's the immature one?

and yes, MY complaints would CLEARLY be MY personal complaints... but like others have posted, they've agree with MY complaints, so looks like MY complaints are shared .

Others agree with me as well, or did you simply forget that? t: Also, I spoke of how the game was good and gave facts, you've just claimed the game was "FAR from good" as if it was a fact without any. Hmmm...

Didn't know a sequel was coming out before the contract fell through did you? It got a lot of people bad mouthing it, but the game actually made a lot of money.

I enjoy many games, that i can gladly admit are far from good... just because a game is enjoyable, doesnt make it a good game. That is not a contradiction. Its like enjoying a bad movie. We all have a guilty pleasure movie thats considered "bad". bud, only person that sounds dumb is you and ive been reading your posts on here for a while, but i just now decided to have the balls to say something about it .

I'm glad you finally let your balls drop then. Welcome to manliness, I saved you a seat.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

Easy there Spideyboy. I guess Styleshift is right though, there really isn't much to talk about with this game at the moment. Even though I always like to know what good things might be in a game it's always way better to be surprised by stuff you didn't know about while playing. I didn't know Carnage was gonna be in the Ultimate Spider-Man game and I got all tingly inside when he appeared on screen the first time.

I did see that Blackcat pic a few posts back with her as a Symbiote. Is it confirmed that every boss or character will have a sybiote form? Excpet Luke Cage on account of his unbreakable skin. I can dig Wolverine getting one despite his healing factor, cause it looks cool and it's something we haven't seen in a game yet. Who knows there may even be an in-game explanation.

 

[Silverstein]

yes agreed... back to a topic were someone isn't insulting people for thinking a game isn't as great as they think it is. And coming up with ridiculous excuses onto why people must not agree with him.

You're a joke. Now I'm insulting you. That is the most irritating thing. You spent all of your posts, (including time that you said that you didn't even say anything), insulting me and disliking me. I never said anything like that to you. I said that you might suck at a game.

A game.

And you're STILL referencing that fact. Deal with it. Why are you making that such a thing? And stop saying people. I've been talking to you about you.

I've said that already, so I guess now is the point where you're set on what you're going to think and you will ignore anything else.

 

[Silverstein]

Easy there Spideyboy. I guess Styleshift is right though, there really isn't much to talk about with this game at the moment. Even though I always like to know what good things might be in a game it's always way better to be surprised by stuff you didn't know about while playing. I didn't know Carnage was gonna be in the Ultimate Spider-Man game and I got all tingly inside when he appeared on screen the first time.

I did see that Blackcat pic a few posts back with her as a Symbiote. Is it confirmed that every boss or character will have a sybiote form? Excpet Luke Cage on account of his unbreakable skin. I can dig Wolverine getting one despite his healing factor, cause it looks cool and it's something we haven't seen in a game yet. Who knows there may even be an in-game explanation.

Yeah...that would be cool.