How many completists do you think there are? It is not flawed argument, the idea was to boast sales overall, the money men do not care where the money is coming from. If they're making more money then it's a sucess.
I agree with you there. The money men are all about money...it's always been that way. As for completists, there are many. In fact, I'd wager that about 90% of the buyers of ASM are people who buy it no matter what is happening and no matter how badly they hate it. Hell, myself excluded, I'd bet that about 2/3 of the people who say, "I hate it, and I ain't buyin' it" are probably hating it, but buying it anyways. Not hating on them....it's just the way it is.
I'm not working from assumptions, I'm working from figures and interviews by the people in charge.
...and the figures are usually reported by the people in charge...
Yes, so you're infering, they're implying.
So a dance equals getting back together? And what he said was:
"Kirsten, I'd love to work with her again. I hope she'll be written into it. I couldn't imagine making one without her, and I think she's an important part of the movies."
Maybe my corner of the world differs from yours, but a meaningful little slow-dance with someone you love who clearly loves you while weeping after a tragic chain of events while holding each other "oh-so-gently", yeah, that typically means two people are probably going to get back together.
Still, I don't consider Kirsten Dunst to be the MJ I know and love, so it makes little or no difference to me. I want a saucy redhead who parties, but has some pain behind her eyes...not a redhead-crybaby who complains incessantly.
It means that one of the major reasons Ultimate Spider-Man was successful was because fans wanted a young, single Spidey, a Spidey they weren't getting in 616. Now they are and Bendis probably doesn't like that.
Actually, people went over to Ultimate Spider-Man because they wanted good storytelling, something Amazing Spider-Man hadn't given them in years, at that point. He could have been married to Elton John in that book. If written well, it would have been better than the Mackie-era/relaunch... FAR better than "Chapter One".
Also, sales on Ultimate Spidey aren't exactly in the toilet or anything. In fact, all the Spidey events started simply because Ultimate Spider-Man had replaced Amazing as the best/best-selling Spidey title, and Marvel felt they needed their new flagship to move back into the number one spot (for the character). How do you do that? Events, events, and more events! Ultimate Spidey, no events...but it does hold the record for having the most consecutive issues under the same creative team without a late issue....and that's no small feat, nowadays. Amazing may be making the sales, now, but Ultimate made history.
Nice dodge. But Batman and Superman are two of the three most popular hero's ever, and they got some of their more popular elements from other mediums, whether you read it or not is irelevant.
Not a dodge....I just don't care for DC. They've rebooted history so often that it's damn near impossible to just pick up a book and enjoy it....aside from All Star Superman, which is a gift from God.
Batman and Green Arrow are the only two heroes from DC that I think are really awesome, with Nightwing being third, and Catwoman being fourth. Everyone else bores the piss out of me. As for Superman, I know he has a fan-following that rivals even Spidey, but, aside from All Star Superman, I find the character to be the least interesting in all of comics. He's invincible to everything....including kryptonite(or he'd be dead by now). That bores me. Give me a character with some flaws and weaknesses, and I'm far more interested. It takes a special kind of Superman story to intrigue me, and I rarely read one. Secret Identity, Red Son, A.S. Superman, and a select few others do it, that's about it. (not knocking Superman fans, he's just not for me)
How can it be a rehash if the story is new?
*bangs head on desk*
It is redoing the same thing that happened in an earlier story. Molten Man was dying, and lashing out at Spidey....now he' sdoing it again. It. Is. A. Rehash. Ultimate Spider-Man began as a rehash. Rehashes aren't neccesariyl bad, but, when all of BND feels like it's from the 70s, then bringing out a rehash of a story from the seventies with the same basic plot point is more than a little lame.
There is a world of difference talking about something you enjoy, and spending 10 months complaining about something you don't even read. I used to watch Smallville, now I find it boring so don't watch and therefor don't discuss it. If Spider-Man, the character who I have followed since I was seven, ever became boring to me, I would stop reading it and not complain for 10 months afterwards.
I have read the issues. I haven't bought any, though. Therefore, I can complain. Also, if Spider-Man, a character you've followed since you were seven, were turned into a completely inept shadow of his former self who made deals with demons, would you sit back and say, "I'm not going to buy it anymore, and so, I can't complain about it", or would you say, "This sucks...I'm going to let people know how I feel about it and make damn sure that everyone knows my stance on this issue"? What are you going to do if they retcon this retcon? Can I expect you to hate it, and never see you posting anymore? Probably not. The Hype and the rest of the net would have little groups of people saying, "Bring Back BND". Why not? There are still people who want Ben Reilly back.
Of course what they feel about the story will affect the outcome but that's not my point. I'll use an example to illsurtae my point. People are complaining about the fact that they can't get emotionally involved in a Peter relationship, because they know it can only go so far. A fan who doesn't read those interviews, has no idea that Peter can't get married again, so that fan can easily get inolved in a Peter relationship. It's like reading a spolier and then being anrgy that you're not suprised when you read the comic.
That might be valid, were we not in this age where people have the internet so easily accessible. Also, it'll be YEARS before poeple who read the comics start picking it up withotu thinking about how Spider-Man used to be married and wondering how he not only got umarried, but why things are so different than they were a few years ago.
I honestly think that's part of the reasoning behind the 3X Amazing formula. Put as many issues between One More Day and the present as you can, and hope people forget sooner. People are less likely to go back 36 issues than they are to go back 12 issues. New Readers aren't going to want to hunt down 30+ issues to find out how the story began. That is honestly the smartest bit of marketing done by Marvel for this event.
Hell, they're even trying to say now that Mephisto wasn't responsible for all fo this, when there is a 4 part story from a year ago that clearly says that it was.
