Spike Lee To Direct 'Oldboy' remake

[Monsieur Xavier]

Maybe but it stands true

Anyway, I gave my point of view about Oldboy remake and why I am not a fan of remake of foreign movies ( especially Asian ).

 

[Naked Shia]

Maybe but it stands true

Anyway, I gave my point of view about Oldboy remake and why I am not a fan of remake of foreign movies ( especially Asian ).

I can understand your point.

 

[Hunter Rider]

A Mystery Package Hints at an Oldboy Surprise

 

[Project862006]

SHH come on you cant be this incompetent can you?

type in the link shown on the picture - http://blooddemandsblood.com/

and it is a viral for dead man down an upcoming film by Niels Arden Oplev(Girl with The Dragon Tattoo) starring collin farrell and noomi rapace

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Adaptations are not the same as remakes. Not at all. Now, I realize Oldboy is touted as an adaptation from the comic, just like B89/BB, SM1/TASM, StM/MoS, the various Draculas you mentioned and stuff. But hey, Total Recall did just that, and it turns out it was a remake of the Verhoeven film.

To answer your question, I did not like the new True Grit.



And I disagree with all that. Just because everyone's doing it, doesn't make it right. It just makes it the norm and me a whiney minority. And f**k post-modern.



Yeah, it's not like I'm advocating a law to ban remakes from the new President of the USA or the EU or anything. But we're in a forum and we share opinions, so that's what I'm doing. I'm sure you've complained about movie news of any kind. And my opinion is "f**k remakes". For Caviezel's sake, people are complaining about the Ernie remake, but they're all cool with Oldboy. Again, that's very hypocritical imo.



I liked the Karate Kid remake just fine. The scene where the Miyagi equivalent is drunk and the kid forces him to train together is more powerful in the remake than in the original. And? The fact remains that some people got paid unfairly in a business that desperately needs new ideas. I'd be fine if someone made a martial arts movie influenced by Karate Kid at parts, or paid it tributes.



The very fact that you, or anyone, says "add anything new" is exactly my problem with remakes. It's ironic how people put "new" and "remake" in the same sentence.



Firstly, new isn't necessarily better. I'm sure it'll add something new. I don't expect Lee of all people to do a frame-by-frame adaptation of the Korean flick. Secondly, the Dracula comparison, like I said, has merit IF they are indeed trying to do the comic and we're not dealing with a Total Recall scenario (which is probably what I think is happening, to be honest).

I'm just going to answer this in whole since this post is not worth answering in 10 different points, not that I even like dividing it into 10 different ones anyway.

Honestly, you just sound bitter, naive, and hypocritical yourself. Bitter because they're remaking your precious favorite movie. Naive because you fail to acknowledge that remakes don't add anything new. Hypocritical because you did acknowledge remakes add something new when you talked about Karate kid as Han's more strict and depressive personality was different than the much more upbeat Miyagi. Not to mention the whole family reveal scene was more different.

You say that it will add something new, and yet you're pissed that a new idea didn't get green lighted? You like the remake of Karate Kid, and yet still dislike remakes in general. It sounds like you don't know what you want yourself. You're right, you're in a very, very whiny (and wrong) minority.

Also, It's that time of the year again! Come discuss the 2012 SHH! Movie awards

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

SHH come on you cant be this incompetent can you?

type in the link shown on the picture - http://blooddemandsblood.com/

and it is a viral for dead man down an upcoming film by Niels Arden Oplev(Girl with The Dragon Tattoo) starring collin farrell and noomi rapace

 

[kvz5]

A Mystery Package Hints at an Oldboy Surprise

SHH come on you cant be this incompetent can you?

type in the link shown on the picture - http://blooddemandsblood.com/

and it is a viral for dead man down an upcoming film by Niels Arden Oplev(Girl with The Dragon Tattoo) starring collin farrell and noomi rapace

Well that was embarrassing.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'm just going to answer this in whole since this post is not worth answering in 10 different points, not that I even like dividing it into 10 different ones anyway.

Honestly, you just sound bitter, naive, and hypocritical yourself. Bitter because they're remaking your precious favorite movie. Naive because you fail to acknowledge that remakes don't add anything new. Hypocritical because you did acknowledge remakes add something new when you talked about Karate kid as Han's more strict and depressive personality was different than the much more upbeat Miyagi. Not to mention the whole family reveal scene was more different.

You say that it will add something new, and yet you're pissed that a new idea didn't get green lighted? You like the remake of Karate Kid, and yet still dislike remakes in general. It sounds like you don't know what you want yourself. You're right, you're in a very, very whiny (and wrong) minority.

Wow, that was surprisingly rude. I'm sorry you feel that way. But let's try to address your accusations, starting with the hypocritical one: I recognise merits in a remake when I see it (although never at the theatres), but I personally do not endorse the notion/concept of a remake. And, to me, there's a big difference between greenlighting a remake, no matter how many spins or new stuff they add, and greenlighting an original script.

Take the family reveal scene in Karate Kid. I did like it and, dare I say, more than the original one. And I do recognise the difference between Han and Miyagi. But did those (and some other, more superficial changes) warrant the funding and production of a Karate Kid remake? No, not imo. Put it this way, would I be more pleased with a Hidden Fortress remake or with Star Wars: A New Hope? My answer would be the latter. That's that with the hypocritical comment.

I am bitter for Oldboy in particular and I'll be bitter if and when the time comes when they decide to remake other favorite movies of mine. I'm glad you that you're keeping an open mind, but if they ever remake one of your top 5 favorite movies and you express worry or pessimism, I will call you out on that, and I think that's fair.

I don't get your naive comment. I'm naive 'cause I don't acknowledge that remakes DON'T add anything new? Do you perhaps mean the opposite?

On a more personal note, are you feeling ok? I never thought of you as someone who'd snap like this. And I don't think I've offended you in some way to be called out like this.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Not mad, I just call them like I see them. The way I see is that you enjoyed the karate kid remake, but yet you go in about not needing to exist. If its entertaining and you like it, who cares if its a remake? Who cares if there's money being spent on it? None of your money went directly into production of it, so why care that Hollywood is spending money on a remake that you enjoy. There's good remakes, and there's bad ones. I do agree that too many remakes are being made, but I dont balk at the whole concept of a remake in general like you do because there is merit in remakes. Some of these movies aren't even technically remakes, but closer adaptions of source material, like Old Boy is supposed to be.

You're naive because what youre telling me (and what's ticking me off really) is that famous movies like Ben Hur, Magnificent Seven, Scarface, A Fistful of Dollars, 3:10 to Yuma, The Fly, The Thing (1982), Insomnia, True Lies, The Departed, Nosferatu, True Grit, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, A Star is Born, and Cape Fear all didn't add anything new at all he when they not only added more to their movies and more to their genres, but some of them added and innovated cinema itself, some of them much more so than some original script which may or may not be successful. Hell, some of those movies I mentioned I'd take over "original" movies any day,

 

[craigdbfan]

Play nice guys.

 

[Gianakin_]

Not mad, I just call them like I see them. The way I see is that you enjoyed the karate kid remake, but yet you go in about not needing to exist. If its entertaining and you like it, who cares if its a remake? Who cares if there's money being spent on it? None of your money went directly into production of it, so why care that Hollywood is spending money on a remake that you enjoy. There's good remakes, and there's bad ones. I do agree that too many remakes are being made, but I dont balk at the whole concept of a remake in general like you do because there is merit in remakes. Some of these movies aren't even technically remakes, but closer adaptions of source material, like Old Boy is supposed to be.

You're naive because what youre telling me (and what's ticking me off really) is that famous movies like Ben Hur, Magnificent Seven, Scarface, A Fistful of Dollars, 3:10 to Yuma, The Fly, The Thing (1982), Insomnia, True Lies, The Departed, Nosferatu, True Grit, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, A Star is Born, and Cape Fear all didn't add anything new at all he when they not only added more to their movies and more to their genres, but some of them added and innovated cinema itself, some of them much more so than some original script which may or may not be successful. Hell, some of those movies I mentioned I'd take over "original" movies any day,

So, you're not mad, but something I said is ticking you off? Like I said, it's not my intention and I'm sorry if my view on this angers you.

To answer your first question(s), I care. I'm not losing sleep over it, but it's my view on things. Why? 'Cause at some point I'm hoping to get involved with the industry and it'll affect me in some way. Too long a shot? Maybe. But it's one of the things I've been thinking about and this is the opinion I've formed.

It's fine that you'd take some of these movies over the originals any day. But, in my opinion, if the price to get rid of the remakes entirely is to sacrifice the few good ones, so be it.

Believe me, I know I'm treading a very fine line here, and my potential hypocrisy would be that I don't feel the same way about adaptations. But, in my mind, they're not the same, not by a long shot. However, even then, some of the things I'm saying about remakes would aply to adaptations, too. For example, I'm not too keen on seeing Batman's origin again after BB. And I think TASM doing the origin again was a bad idea, etc.

 

[Naked Shia]

No movie is needed when you think about it. At least, with this remake, we will have real actors, not like this dumb Choi Ming Sink.

 

[craigdbfan]

No movie is needed when you think about it. At least, with this remake, we will have real actors, not like this dumb Choi Ming Sink.

Please tell me you're joking.

 

[Naked Shia]

Choi Ming Sink is as talented as Adam Sandler.

 

[dark_b]

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

So, you're not mad, but something I said is ticking you off? Like I said, it's not my intention and I'm sorry if my view on this angers you.

To answer your first question(s), I care. I'm not losing sleep over it, but it's my view on things. Why? 'Cause at some point I'm hoping to get involved with the industry and it'll affect me in some way. Too long a shot? Maybe. But it's one of the things I've been thinking about and this is the opinion I've formed.

It's fine that you'd take some of these movies over the originals any day. But, in my opinion, if the price to get rid of the remakes entirely is to sacrifice the few good ones, so be it.

Believe me, I know I'm treading a very fine line here, and my potential hypocrisy would be that I don't feel the same way about adaptations. But, in my mind, they're not the same, not by a long shot. However, even then, some of the things I'm saying about remakes would aply to adaptations, too. For example, I'm not too keen on seeing Batman's origin again after BB. And I think TASM doing the origin again was a bad idea, etc.

All of what I've said before in my previous posts stands.

Please tell me you're joking.

I decided to ignore him a while ago.

 

[Gianakin_]

All of what I've said before in my previous posts stands.

Same here. I wasn't trying to change anyone's mind.

 

[Naked Shia]

All of what I've said before in my previous posts stands.



I decided to ignore him a while ago.

that's probably for the best, since you can't have a conversation without insulting those who disagree with you. I'll call you Grumpy now.

 

[Batman jr.]

It's not untouchable. It's not like Old Boy is Akira. It is very translatable to US audiences. I have no problem with Hollywood remaking foreign language movie (unless it's very personal to that culture like Akira) because let's face it, many people in America do not like watching foreign language movies. There are millions who haven't heard or seen Old Boy because it's a foreign language movie. Other countries remake our movies in their language, why is it such a big deal when Hollywood does it in an effort to introduce a story to a wider range of American audiences.

Spike Lee is a great director who has proven that he can make quality movies. The cast is good too. I have confidence that this movie will be good.

I have never seen a Spike Lee film. Does that make me a bad person?

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
Where did Parker Wayne even suggested such thing in his post ??

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I have never seen a Spike Lee film. Does that make me a bad person?

Yes, it makes you a terrible person. You're supposed to see one at least once in your life. It's in the constitution. I should stop before I get made to be this evil poster.

Seriously, Spike is a great director with proven hits like Do the Right Thing, Malcolm X, and Inside Man.

 

[Project862006]

do the right thing is a classic and still holds up well today

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

It does. It gets shown to many different film schools including mine and for good reason. It's also one of AFI's top 100 American films.

 

[Project862006]

and the good old days when John Turturro actually acted

 

[Batman jr.]

Ah yes, Malcolm X is from Lee.

So I have seen only ONE SL movie, then.