TomPiltoff
you are all diseased
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We get the sarcasm of your response to the thread. I find it rude not clever!
You got my sarcasm? Oh good, I'm soooooo glad.
We get the sarcasm of your response to the thread. I find it rude not clever!
I'm sure I'll appreciate it more when I get the Blu-Ray than in the theater because I was surrounded by a really crappy audience - coughers, incosiderate text messengers, and a bunch of bratty little kids with no parents to tell them to shut their Goddamn mouths....near the end when Captain America and Peggy are sharing their last message before the jet crashes and Cap gets frozen? I won't lie, watching that moment tore me up emotionally because I grew to love both of their characters over the movie and thought they were great together, and I thought it was so sad they didn't get a chance to see each other again after that The ending even left me feeling kind of depressed, when Cap awoke in the present day to see things had changed so much and to think he never got to see Peggy after that. It just hit me hard emotionally and I even recall getting more than a little misty-eyed during that entire moment.
They also weren't in a good movie.Thor and Jane wearnt in love. She just wanted to 'pound his hammer'.
Play nice Tom a smart guy like you shouldn't waste his time sarcastically commenting on a post your not interested in. Makes you look petty.You got my sarcasm? Oh good, I'm soooooo glad.
I'd love it if he said, "Sorry, I'm late" followed by a bittersweet smile form her.
I was on the verge of man tears when he said "I had a date"
Play nice Tom a smart guy like you shouldn't waste his time sarcastically commenting on a post your not interested in. Makes you look petty.
I guess you missed the sarcasm in play nice. (BOOM) lolC'mon at least keep your schtick straight (though at 50 I know that's asking a bit much - BOOM). You called me rude. Don't turn around two posts later and say 'play nice'.
Jesus Christ are you serious how old are you guys. The whole love story was horrible. I dont know any even hard core comic fan that saw the movie that even for a second believed or felt invested in the two characters relationship at all. It was one of the biggest problems with the movie along with pacing. The love story was weakly done.
LISA
Jesus Christ are you serious how old are you guys. The whole love story was horrible. I dont know any even hard core comic fan that saw the movie that even for a second believed or felt invested in the two characters relationship at all. It was one of the biggest problems with the movie along with pacing. The love story was weakly done.
LISA
LisaJesus Christ are you serious how old are you guys. The whole love story was horrible. I dont know any even hard core comic fan that saw the movie that even for a second believed or felt invested in the two characters relationship at all. It was one of the biggest problems with the movie along with pacing. The love story was weakly done.
LISA
Lisa
I have to respectfully disagree with you.
This is my opinion and of course your welcome to yours I thought the love story was spot on!
We have to remember that both Cap and Peggy's lives and missions kept them on different paths through most of the movie making it hard to have a normal romance.
I like the story of an insecure with ladies skinny Steve who now despite his new body still carried the same insecurities.
Also liked how Peggy started falling/admiring for Steve as a man in the cab as she listened to him talk about his life experiences.
And what could have been more pure of heart when Steve said he was just waiting for the right partner, and we as viewers new he was sitting right next to her.
Also liked the way they kept close enough to pine for each other but because of the war not close enough to do anything about it.
I would bet that many of us can think of lost opportunities when it comes to love, I'm sure many can relate.
We also have to remember that Steve's mission lasted months! They must have wrote or talked by phone over that time.
It was touching to see that cap had added a picture of Peggy in a locket/watch or compass and she blushed when she saw it in the news-reel. That scene made me assume they at least had verbal contact over those months (who knows maybe more).
And I loved the finial scene as they planned their last date together both knowing that cap was about to die (Yes I know that has been done before but it worked for me).
Lastly what could have been more touching when Peggy sadly pulled out the picture of skinny Steve, it was at that moment you new she had fallen for him the person in the cab not when he had been transformed.
And for those who didn't get the emotion of the last scene with cap in the future saying with sad eyes he had a date. I thought it was a stroke of genius to reduce their love for each other into one line. You could feel the regret in his heart as he spoke that simple sentence.
In fact it was so true to the character of Caption America in this movie, a man of action and very few words.
I will agree the pacing was erratic but I think with a movie that had to tell an origin story and so much more JJ the director did a bad place of a job.
Oh! one more thing not sure how you can say you don't know any hard core comics fans who thought the romance between the two worked?
Spend a little time reading the reviews thread for the movie at this site you'll find many of those hard core comic there!
That is what i was trying to say.I actually did feel bad for both Thor and Banner, but I agree at the same time that this scene in Cap did pull on the heartstrings a little.
I think what made Peggy's and Rogers romance that bit more emotional was that even in the little amount of time they spent together, you could tell they were in love, and the fact that they didnt really get to be together other than a quick kiss made that final scene a bit more emotional as well.
Thanks for the follow up!I respect all of what was said. Here is what I am saying. As for some back story let me say that I am a woman, a grown woman, and worked on the film. I have been working in film for 15 years now. I have been reading books my whole life. I never want a comic movie to fail. But...
Breaking down the story panel by panel doesn’t sum up the experience of the movie. I could take the intentions of the worst movie of all time and write it out point by point because I have some vested interest in it but that doesn’t make it good. If you saw the film and got into it great, I am jealous as I wish every film could push my buttons like that. But there were big problems with the pacing of the film in general and the chemistry between the leads even on set, that's just how films go. In contrast, though I didn't work the flick, but the last hulk had a great connection between the leads Norton and Tyler and I honestly usually don't enjoy her. But it was felt by everyone on set.
Point by point the story should have been working it all sounds good. But looking at the film as a film and not a comic film of a character I like, judging it against any character piece, the story never got smoothly going it was choppy. No one I personally worked with on the film, nor from the industry, or went to the film with or talked to, felt the movie moved right. But everyone thought it looked ridiculously beautiful. The movie not working doesn’t make a hardcore fan happy, I again want all comic based films to be beyond great which is my point. I guess we hope that if fans ask for more, than we will get it. We hope comic fans will be creative fans and not fan boys arguing about Marvel and DC like they are football teams. And that includes great films like Nolans, which are great films just in some peoples eyes not great Batman films. At least not the Batman we grew up with in the comics, maybe an alternate universe Batman with a hard lisp and poorly shot fight scenes. Anyway sorry for the tangent.
I hope that clears my point up and sorry if I insulted anyone but I hope that you might get where I am coming from. I always ask myself if this was just a story with no action, special effects, costumes, just about the characters would I have liked it.