Age of Ultron SPOILERS INSIDE What you didn't like about Avengers: Age of Ultron - Flaws/Critiques

[Just_Human]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

Probably that they trained the accent out of her. Or rather that she keeps it up at all time so she doesn't accidentally slip into a Russian accent when she's undercover.

 

[Dark Raven]

I feel like the ending would have been more effective if Cap had at least said part of the second word.

"Avengers, Ass-"
*cut to credits*

If they cut it like that, the next scene would've been Wanda and Natasha showing a full moon.

 

[JLMHodge]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

I've always wondered this myself. Maybe she lost her accent living in America? Or maybe it's like you said, SJ just might not be able to do the accent.

 

[TheTarkKnight]

I'll copy the cons from my review

-A lot of the humor didn't land. Very cheesy, and some jokes went on for way too long.
-Ultron is good in terms of voice performance and CGI, but he doesn't feel threatening at all. They tried to make him deep with his talk about human evolution, but it's just nonsensical. Another weak villain in the MCU.
-Too much stuff going on at the same time. I was extremely confused at certain points during the climax, because I didn't know what the Avengers were trying to accomplish exactly.
-Convenient and cliché plot devices. "oh, Ultron escaped through the internet and is going through every database on earth to find nuclear launch codes!" We've seen this a thousand times before, and it's so lame that I'm indifferent to Ultron's actions. Also, at one point Thor runs off with his professor body to bathe in a pool, and when he comes back to the team he shares some kind of epiphany that isn't shown or explained.

I completely agree with this review. The movie never lived up to its name to begin with. It wasn't "AGE of Ultron" it was more like "DAYS of Ultron". No one but the Avengers and the poor made-up country people probably even knew about Ultron. Half the Sovokians probably didn't even understand what was going on to begin with. Everytime I saw Ultron, I was expecting Megatron or Darth Vader evil, instead we got a confused robot with - feelings. Awwwww so cute

 

[cph9fa]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

I've always wondered this myself. Maybe she lost her accent living in America? Or maybe it's like you said, SJ just might not be able to do the accent.

I'll assume neither of you has watched Agent Carter (you should!!!) since they answer that question there. Basically, the girls in the Black Widow program are trained from a young age to speak perfect American English by watching American films. One of the Russian Agents on the show speaks with a charmingly innocent southern drawl.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

5 years later and people are still asking this?

In the first Avengers movie she told Banner she started learning to be a spy with SHIELD at the same age as her little "actress buddy" which means she's been living in the States for most of her life with people who speak with American accents and dialects. She would've lost her accent (if she ever even had one) a very long time ago. It's not like she came from Russia a year or two ago, or been living in Russia and learned English there.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

After letting it settle for a couple days, I think AoU's biggest issue (at least for me) is that it's a "middle" movie. A lot of what goes on happens simply to port things -- characters, objects, personal conflicts/attractions -- into future films. Ultron comes across as Mediocretron because he's secondary to his own movie. He exists solely to justify a trio of set-piece CGI battles and to facilitate the creation of the Vision (another character created primarily for future movies). This doesn't make it a bad movie but drains it of tension. The few times that it crackles, like Tony and Steve sparring at the farm or the intramural fight that almost happens before the Vision is "born" are more stuff for a later movie (CW, obviously). The one "big" thing that happens, Quicksilver dying, has no emotional punch because the movie doesn't have time to flesh him out as a character. It's too busy giving us visions of the Infinty Gauntlet or trying to keep us interested with Hulkbuster armor.

Again, not a bad movie. But I wish it had kept more of its focus on itself and not the next three movies in the series.

 

[DarthAlani]

Tony Stark is a Gary Stu. He stalemates Thor in A1, creates Ultron,programs Vision,rigs the floating city to blow, carries a nuke through a wormhole in A1,designs all the gear for the Avengers, oh yeah and he wins vs Hulk.

Tony will probably defeat Thanos as well.

 

[marvellover]

After letting it settle for a couple days, I think AoU's biggest issue (at least for me) is that it's a "middle" movie. A lot of what goes on happens simply to port things -- characters, objects, personal conflicts/attractions -- into future films. Ultron comes across as Mediocretron because he's secondary to his own movie. He exists solely to justify a trio of set-piece CGI battles and to facilitate the creation of the Vision (another character created primarily for future movies). This doesn't make it a bad movie but drains it of tension. The few times that it crackles, like Tony and Steve sparring at the farm or the intramural fight that almost happens before the Vision is "born" are more stuff for a later movie (CW, obviously). The one "big" thing that happens, Quicksilver dying, has no emotional punch because the movie doesn't have time to flesh him out as a character. It's too busy giving us visions of the Infinty Gauntlet or trying to keep us interested with Hulkbuster armor.

Again, not a bad movie. But I wish it had kept more of its focus on itself and not the next three movies in the series.

Well said

Marvel isn't putting a lot of heart and focus into the story of Ultron
They clearly ruined a potential great Avengers villain for years to come,only for future films

 

[warhorse78]

The Falcon not being in on the action of the opening sequence.

Changing Ultron's "your extinction" line to "The Avengers' extinction." LAME!

The stupid romance with Hulk and Black Widow. I guess we're supposed to forget about Betty?

The floating island bomb plot was dumb. Ultron = Skynet

Marvel repeats it with Captain America playing second fiddle. Tony Stark invents Ultron, defeats The Hulk, and saves the world again. Might as well have called this movie Iron Man And His Friends.

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I love Cap, he's my favorite out of the crew, but please, can someone tell me how he is so important to the team in these Avenger flicks? It seems to me, any of his orders and ideas could be brought up by Fury, Stark or Banner. And near the end, it seemed like Vision was giving the orders and coming up with the battle plans, not Steve. Really, if we were to take him out of the equation, would we have known?

 

[The Guard]

Aside from a crappy handling of characters in general...especially the villain.

1. An almost complete lack of character development and a complete rehash of the same roles/relationships from the first film.

2. The rest of the world apparently just sat this one out. The Avengers are apparently just a THING now, and the government was willing to nuke New York IN CASE the battle went badly there in AVENGERS, but didn't bother to do F all about the floating city?

 

[silversurfur65]

- Too many jokes and funny quips...It was like the Avengers became a Vaudeville act while they were fighting a thousand Ultron minions.

- Ultron didn't seem as menacing as he does in the comics.
- The Black Widow/Hulk stuff was strange and seemed out of character for Natasha.

 

[Marchesk]

Tony Stark is a Gary Stu. He stalemates Thor in A1, creates Ultron,programs Vision,rigs the floating city to blow, carries a nuke through a wormhole in A1,designs all the gear for the Avengers, oh yeah and he wins vs Hulk.

Tony will probably defeat Thanos as well.

LOL, probably. The movies give you the sense IM is the most powerful and important Avenger, and that shouldn't be the case.

 

[Marchesk]

- Too many jokes and funny quips...It was like the Avengers became a Vaudeville act while they were fighting a thousand Ultron minions.

Why not, when they're cannon fodder? Hawkeye and Black Widow were having no trouble. You can't have suspense if the villain is so easily defeated.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah that was weird

Speaking of Eastern Europe , how come Nat doesn't have a Russian accent?
I know she is a spy and can have any accent, but that would be in mission situations.
But when not spying she should have a Russian accent

Or is it because SJ can't do it?

Watch The Americans.

 

[Asr]

There were a bunch of things I didn't like about AoU but I'll start with my top three:

1. Too many damn quips that made the movie feel more like a running punchline than anything serious. Not that I wanted something DC-serious like TDK, but geez it seems like the majority of Marvel's movies just can't find the right tone and end up feeling like there's never any "dramatic weight" for lack of a better term. TWS got it right, I want more movies with that kind of tone!

2. I'm really, really tired of seeing the Avengers fight amongst themselves. I don't care what the reason is, it's just plain old and I'd prefer seeing the Avengers fight villains instead of each other. If Civil War is just going to be more Avengers in-fighting then I think I'm going to pass.

3. The fighting in the action setpieces was just....uninspiring, and there was no sense of anything bad that could happen, like someone geting hurt or killed (well until Quicksilver got randomly offed). I mean, in TWS, there were points at which I thought either Cap or BW could die at the hands of WS. I got none of that from AoU, and was pretty much convinced that everyone would make it out alive and easily at that. I can buy that characters like Thor, Vision, Iron Man, and Hulk could easily tear through tons of Ultron bots, but the other members of the team (Cap, Hawkeye, BW) should've had to put way more obvious effort in, and should've gotten either tired or injured, or both.

 

[Virgo_Luxx]

There were a bunch of things I didn't like about AoU but I'll start with my top three:

1. Too many damn quips that made the movie feel more like a running punchline than anything serious. Not that I wanted something DC-serious like TDK, but geez it seems like the majority of Marvel's movies just can't find the right tone and end up feeling like there's never any "dramatic weight" for lack of a better term. TWS got it right, I want more movies with that kind of tone!

2. I'm really, really tired of seeing the Avengers fight amongst themselves. I don't care what the reason is, it's just plain old and I'd prefer seeing the Avengers fight villains instead of each other. If Civil War is just going to be more Avengers in-fighting then I think I'm going to pass.

3. The fighting in the action setpieces was just....uninspiring, and there was no sense of anything bad that could happen, like someone geting hurt or killed (well until Quicksilver got randomly offed). I mean, in TWS, there were points at which I thought either Cap or BW could die at the hands of WS. I got none of that from AoU, and was pretty much convinced that everyone would make it out alive and easily at that. I can buy that characters like Thor, Vision, Iron Man, and Hulk could easily tear through tons of Ultron bots, but the other members of the team (Cap, Hawkeye, BW) should've had to put way more obvious effort in, and should've gotten either tired or injured, or both.

Agree. Felt like this was a studio movie made to play it safe. Can't wait for the Russos. Joss just adds random, weird **** to his stories just to be different. That's why Ultron was a quippy wimp and why BW and Banner were crushing on each other. He goes for those weird, doomed relationships. It was stupid to just throw away the shipping build up between Hawkeye and BW.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

There was no shipping build up between Hawkeye and Widow, not in the movies anyway. Avengers made it clear they were friends.

 

[The Slang]

*Ultron: Aside from being way too human for a robot, he was a weak, pompous *****e of a villain. He was way too confident in himself. He'd talk incessantly about how he's going to win and then get his ass handed to him in every confrontation. He was a joke. The moment he's created, he immediately turns evil for no apparent reason and I didn't understand his plan or motivation at all.

*The Twins: I didn't care about them. I didn't care about them when they were villains, I didn't care about them when they were heroes. I just didn't care.

*Vision: Didn't care about him either. His origin was so convoluted and I don't feel like he added anything. Ultron builds an android body, then puts half of his mind into it, then they stick Jarvis in it, then Thor rocks up and hits it with Lighting, then they attach magic stone and yeah... Vision.

*Black Widow romance/Lullaby: The whole romance felt unnatural and unnecessary. Somewhere between this movie and the last they've began using Black Widow to calm down and revert the Hulk. She walks up, says 'the suns getting pretty low big guy', then slips off her glove, looks at him suggestively and strokes his hand until he's calm. While I'm sure that Scarlett Johansson could in fact tame the incredible hulk with a little... ahem, handy-work, this just felt like a rehash of the Ang Lee Hulk scene where Betty Ross was able to calm the hulk in a similar way, with Black widow acting as replacement Betty Ross. What happened to Betty anyway?

*Thor's quest: As many have said the bath sequence was a little out of place. I also thought it was weird how Thor suddenly storms out of the house to begin his quest after looking at Hawkeye's daughter. It was almost like she triggered it somehow.

 

[CGHulk]

I'm not to crazy about the safe house sequence. the funny thing is I wanted more from the cave sequence and less or not at all of the safe house sequence. The exact opposite of what the director wanted, and exactly what the studio wanted.

 

[gdw]

5 years later and people are still asking this?

In the first Avengers movie she told Banner she started learning to be a spy with SHIELD at the same age as her little "actress buddy" which means she's been living in the States for most of her life with people who speak with American accents and dialects. She would've lost her accent (if she ever even had one) a very long time ago. It's not like she came from Russia a year or two ago, or been living in Russia and learned English there.

No, she was NOT start being trained as a spy by SHIELD at that age; She started at that age in Russia. Hence the whole back story of where she was trained in AOA and Agent Carter.

I do not believe it has been said when she defected.

All that said, I believe the first place she was ever portrayed WITH a Russian accent was in the cartoons. Obviously comics don't have audio, but accents can be implied with the way the dialogue is written, and I do not believe any accent had been written in the books prior to the cartoons.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

*Ultron: Aside from being way too human for a robot, he was a weak, pompous *****e of a villain. He was way too confident in himself. He'd talk incessantly about how he's going to win and then get his ass handed to him in every confrontation. He was a joke. The moment he's created, he immediately turns evil for no apparent reason and I didn't understand his plan or motivation at all.

I thought his motivation was pretty clear, Jarvis says that Ultron was created by Tony Stark to protect the world. So he looks up information on Tony Stark and the Avengers and basically human history and sees constant conflict and fighting. Seeing this, he feels the best way to protect the world is to take it's most dangerous threat, humans, out of the equation.

 

[Iron_Stark]

No, she was NOT start being trained as a spy by SHIELD at that age; She started at that age in Russia. Hence the whole back story of where she was trained in AOA and Agent Carter.

I do not believe it has been said when she defected.

All that said, I believe the first place she was ever portrayed WITH a Russian accent was in the cartoons. Obviously comics don't have audio, but accents can be implied with the way the dialogue is written, and I do not believe any accent had been written in the books prior to the cartoons.

I haven't watched Agent Carter or Agents of SHIELD, I'm just going off of what she told Banner in the first one.

In the comics she loses her accent, there was a panel where Dum Dum Dugan make mention of it. And writers have never wrote her dialog bubbles with Russian and English mixture of words like they do with Gambit for example.

 

[Blue42]

I just hate the whole "some kid got separated from the crowd and the mother's standing around screaming ''where's my baby/kid?'' and somebody saves them in the nick of time" trope. It's so annoying and cliche. Especially in this one since it resulted in killing off Quicksilver which I thought was forced, stupid, and unnecessary.